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Hapahauli
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##Unvote Palmar ##Vote HiroPro | ||
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On September 01 2012 09:24 BlackMamba24 wrote: That's not suspicious. He was saying MMtoss' defense wasn't adequate because he didn't address the point. Then when MMtoss addressed the point, he was satisfied. What's scummy about that? We can't have another bandwagon switch right now, the vote is close and there's not a lot of time left in the day. Because it was too easy. After tunneling MMtoss the entire game, HP was satisfied with just that post? Seriously? I call BS. | ||
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On September 01 2012 09:26 BlackMamba24 wrote: Why not? tunneling the entire game was like all of a few hours and it seemed to satisfy you so why is it "too easy" when HiroPro likes his answer and not when you like his answer? The thing is that it's a very unlikely "thought process" for a townie. Think about it. You make a major case against MMtoss, get 3 people to vote with you, mention nothing about it until someone calls you out for it, then all of a sudden, one magical answer solves all your suspicions? Keep in mind that HiroPro was convinced that MMtoss was scum: Mementoss is attempting to seem useful when his posts actually say very little. His reaction to Hapahauli's questions are to throw doubt and accusations in a nonsensical manner. He's scum. There's no way a townie would drop a read that quickly. Maybe a question or two, THEN dropping the read, but not right away. | ||
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Before his "Case" against MMToss, he has 8 one-liner posts. He talks about abstaining voters, soft-defends me against SnB, and posts that Hopless1der is "nervous" without ever following up on it. He then posts his "Case", and sounds confident in his read. He only has two posts before I confront him about his read: a soft defense of SnB and a little poke on MMToss, mentioning that he'll take a look at Shady's filter. I confront him about his case and MMToss's post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=15#291 Read from this point on. Look how quickly he gives up his read. He then posts a bunch of one-liners without making reads | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=22#431 I couldn't have lined it out any better. | ||
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On September 01 2012 09:49 Node wrote: I think it's incredibly silly to say that nobody will vote for BM24 when 5 or so people have already swung on to Hiro very suddenly (and with reasoning as minimal as "yeah, sure, why not?"). But as for your case: I don't think Hiro's done anything explicitly scummy. Yeah, he dropped the case against MM, but seeing as the prevailing opinion now is that MM is safe (otherwise there would be more votes on him), there's nothing wrong with that. His contributions hve been less since then, but I haven't seen anything outright anti-town in his filter (contrast with BM). I've got much stronger scum reads. I'll leave my vote where it is for now. There are 2 votes on HiroPro. Don't pull this shit about "5 person voteswing" or whatever - you're being misleading. And MM is not safe. He has 3 votes on him. Are you even reading the thread? | ||
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On September 01 2012 09:49 BlackMamba24 wrote: BUt I thought the main criticism of HiroPro other than that was that his case was a summation of Hapahauli's suspicions of mementoss? Hapahauli told me himself that after reading his defense he thought MMtoss was town for that. But if HiroPro comes to the same conclusion that makes him scum? don't be stupid. Grawww you're not reading again!!!! I thought MMtoss was town for this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=13#258 HiroPro still thought MMtoss was scummy after that post. He magically dropped his read after this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=15#293 | ||
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On September 01 2012 09:59 BlackMamba24 wrote: That was the post I was referring to. It didn't satisfy HiroPro but it satisfied you so how can you say he dropped his suspicions too quick when you dropped them even quicker? He didn't drop it because you pressured it, he didn't drop it until MMtoss directly answered his question and main point of his case. I don't see what is so hard to understand about that... You actually buy that? Do you think like that as a townie? Clearly not, or you would've accepted the first defense that SnB posted against you insteantly. You don't see it as strange that Hiro doesn't pressure him any more than that after posting his case? Like he insta-dropped his suspicions man. | ||
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On September 01 2012 10:02 Hopeless1der wrote: Okay well BMB has already gone through why Hapa's case doesn't demonstrate Hiro to be scummy. Hapa still has a point regarding who does Hiro think is scum. Hiro? If your around, we'd be much obliged. Goddamnit townies don't think like that! Townies don't insta-drop cases like that! | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=15#293 As far as I know, that's it. HiroPro accepted it, and for some reason, you and BM24 accept it at face value. However, let me tell you why this is very unlikely: 1) HiroPro went from extreme suspicion (note the wording, "MMtoss is scum"), to a dropped suspicion in one post. 2) HiroPro still should have reason to suspect MMtoss, even after MMtoss defends himself. People still fnd MMtoss suspicious, yet for some reason, HiroPro accepted the magical answer? 3) HiroPro is happy to poke and prod random townies, but barely makes an attempt to question MMtoss, who is Hiro's main scumread. I could go on, but what more do you need here? I hope you don't actually buy Hiro's excuse. | ||
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On September 01 2012 10:15 HiroPro wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING READING ANYTHING I POST I am, and I'm posting why I think you're full of shit. | ||
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On September 01 2012 10:16 HiroPro wrote: No, I don't have any strong scum reads at this point. Risen looks weird to me because he made a case on Shady and then proceeded to go lynch Palmar because he's a troll. But it's not something I'd vote him for. LOOK AT THIS!! He's not scumhunting! ********************************* | ||
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Here's a guy who has no active scumreads... hey remember who also had no active scumreads as mafia @ lynch deadline? That's right, you did in Newbie XX. | ||
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