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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
September 03 2012 20:57 GMT
#861
Because if we lynch the townie its endgame either way according to you.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2012 20:59 GMT
#862
"If we haven't been endgamed, he's going to be immediately lynched."

That is way different than what you just said. Lynching the townie is endgame here. That's all there is to it. There is no, well maybe we lynch a townie and still get to live.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
September 03 2012 21:03 GMT
#863
On September 04 2012 05:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because if we lynch the townie its endgame either way according to you.



I don't know that there is or isn't going to be a tomorrow. Perhaps Kira is all alone with more traitors that must join him. In any case, your "from my perspective" argument assumes that between you and Hiro:

- one of you is town and one of you is scum
- We're at MYLO

Given those conditions, I think you're Scum and HiroPro is town.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2012 21:16 GMT
#864
On September 04 2012 06:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 05:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because if we lynch the townie its endgame either way according to you.



I don't know that there is or isn't going to be a tomorrow. Perhaps Kira is all alone with more traitors that must join him. In any case, your "from my perspective" argument assumes that between you and Hiro:

- one of you is town and one of you is scum
- We're at MYLO

Given those conditions, I think you're Scum and HiroPro is town.


No, you think I'm scum to the extent that you're not willing to forward a no lynch in a mylo situation.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 03 2012 21:35 GMT
#865
On September 04 2012 05:43 HiroPro wrote:
sigh fuba you haven't realized by now?

I'm L. I'm a cop and I also got a lot of other cool powers. It should be fairly obvious now why all of the messages tell you to listen to me.


yes. this whole last 2 pages or so has been quite ridiculous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
September 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#866
Partially just going with my gut after reading filters, partially I don't see the scumteam somehow failing to kill the claimed cop up to this point, partially "he's red, kill him" seems way to damn easy for this game, partially this is just a way more interesting option.

##vote HiroPro
whole lies with a half smile
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 03 2012 22:07 GMT
#867
On September 04 2012 07:04 Node wrote:
Partially just going with my gut after reading filters, partially I don't see the scumteam somehow failing to kill the claimed cop up to this point, partially "he's red, kill him" seems way to damn easy for this game, partially this is just a way more interesting option.

##vote HiroPro


...

you think Risen has played townier than Hiro?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
September 03 2012 22:45 GMT
#868
On September 03 2012 15:40 mkfuba07 wrote:
##Vote Risen

At the moment I have no reasons to doubt HiroPro, and fewer reasons to doubt L telling us to listen to him.

The international has me in a dota-y mood, so I'm going to play a bit. I'll be online for about 5 hours before the lynch in case anything new arises.

The bold portion sums up my recent confusion. My faith in Hiro was based on a belief that L had some way to confirm people's alignment (as that makes perfect sense, him being the Head Investigator and all). Risen's L claim was the only thing that would make me doubt Hiro's cop claim in the slightest. The fact that he claimed to have only the mason-like ability made me suspicious, though.

I suspected Hiro to be L since he claimed cop, but it wasn't a sure thing. L's confirmation of it earlier made me believe him. And Hiro's recent claim fits perfectly into what I believed was likely going on. The fact that there is no "L's servant" further confirms it for me, since no one has come forward to claim having killed hapa. If you were L, Risen, how did you know that hapa's death was a town vigi kill if you didn't do it, and you didn't have any additional powers allowing you to know who did?

Finally, Risen's newfound shock that we haven't been suspecting Hiro of lying about his claim this entire time, when he is only just now mentioning it, reeks of scum desperation. Especially because it was supposedly his own words that made us believe Hiro.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
September 03 2012 22:54 GMT
#869
On September 04 2012 05:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 05:42 mkfuba07 wrote:
Anyone have an L counterclaim? Until then:

##Unvote

I have a question about voting. does this:
Scum wins when their number is equal or more than town's number.
override this:
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first is lynched.

I ask because if we mislynch D3 it will result in the teams being 3 town/2 scum (if I've done my math right, it's currently 5-2, with a mislynch and today's scumkill = 3-2). If the three town vote for someone before the two scum vote for someone, will the town vote have priority over the scum vote since it was the person with the most votes first? Or is it instant scum win when it's 2-2?


This you trying to gain town cred just in case Hiro slipped up/did something else stupid like he just did?

No, this was me trying to figure out if your reasoning was accurate, and if we could still survive if we mislynched you. Fortunately I don't fear a mislynch anymore. Nice fingerpointing though. When you flip scum maybe it'll support my townie status. God knows I didn't do a very good job of that myself this game.

I forgot to do this in my last post, so ##Vote Risen
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 04 2012 01:44 GMT
#870
On September 04 2012 05:42 mkfuba07 wrote:
Anyone have an L counterclaim? Until then:

##Unvote

I have a question about voting. does this:
Scum wins when their number is equal or more than town's number.
override this:
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first is lynched.

I ask because if we mislynch D3 it will result in the teams being 3 town/2 scum (if I've done my math right, it's currently 5-2, with a mislynch and today's scumkill = 3-2). If the three town vote for someone before the two scum vote for someone, will the town vote have priority over the scum vote since it was the person with the most votes first? Or is it instant scum win when it's 2-2?


Insta scum win when 2-2. Although it would make sense for town to win if they vote first, that's incredibly unfair due to the way timezones work and creates an incredibly terrible situation for all players. I've been there, believe me. Thus, Scum wins the moment their number equals town's number.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
September 04 2012 01:57 GMT
#871
Completely understandable. Thanks!
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#872
CURRENT VOTE COUNT:

Risen(5) - HiroPro, Hopeless1der, mkfuba07, marvellosity, ghost_403, mkfuba07

HiroPro(2) - Risen, Node


Currently Risen is set to be lynched!
Deadline is at 02:30 GMT (+00:00)!
About 30 minutes left to vote
Reminder: Voting is NOT mandatory and you cannot vote for yourself!


LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 04 2012 02:28 GMT
#873
How Palmar got lynched will be a matter of discussion post-game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 03:37:31
September 04 2012 02:30 GMT
#874
Day 05 - Would the real L please stand up?
[image loading]


The conference room was filled with an icy cold atmosphere as a stand-off had developed. Several people continued to stare each other down, neither side ready to back off.

"I am like a 100% certain that Risen is Kira, somebody just shoot him already!" HiroPro remarked as he nervously glanced at Risen sitting right opposite of him.

"Hear, hear!" marvellosity joined in and took his gun out. Immediately Node and ghost_403 were armed and ready as well, just before a confusing shootout would have ensured, Risen put a hand onto the barrel of Node and said: "There is no need for undue violence, I know many of you trust Hiro and his detective-skills but he is mistaken. I contemplated a long time about this, but here it goes......" Just as Risen paused, the giant monitor behind him lit up into action and the familiar Logo of L showed and the "L"-Voice sounded: "I am L and I am Risen, listen to my wisdom and kill HiroPro for the liar he is!"

The room fell silent as everyone kept looking at the screen, Risen, HiroPro and back to the screen, clearly divided over whom or what to trust.

In this instant of uncertainty HiroPro suddenly took out his gun, pointed at Risen and pulled the trigger. "Cool trick you got there, but I am L and I got something even better."

As Risen fell amidst the chaos as several people wanted to grab HiroPro, his blood sprayed in a clear red from his wound.

At this sight the room fell silent again, this time in awe.




Risen, the Kira Worshipper has fallen!
+ Show Spoiler [RolePM] +
You were a Detective, but you think Kira is the master of all. You were prompted to join his cause and you are now a Worshiper.

You know that Kira is -------- and you are able to communicate with him. Other than that, your job is to deceive your enemies in order to make Kira the one and only God to rule the world.
In case Kira is killed somehow, you will receive his role in sending the divine punishment to terrible people.

You know that there is a Traitor among the detectives, and that he is looking for Kira to enable communication with him and you. You show up as Suspicious Detective to investigations.

You win when you, Kira and any other allies are equal or superior in number than the Detectives(including the Head Investigator) in the game.


+ Show Spoiler [Final Votecount] +

Risen(5) - HiroPro, Hopeless1der, mkfuba07, marvellosity, ghost_403, mkfuba07

HiroPro(2) - Risen, Node



Day 5 has begun!
6 Players are still alive!

Deadline is 02:30 GMT (+00:00)!
You have about 24 hours to vote!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
September 04 2012 02:41 GMT
#875
T_T they shot me
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 03:38:15
September 04 2012 02:43 GMT
#876
relocated to the post above, sorry.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
September 04 2012 02:46 GMT
#877
##Vote: Ghost_403
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
September 04 2012 02:47 GMT
#878
hm, who do I want to kill
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 04 2012 02:53 GMT
#879
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 04 2012 02:56 GMT
#880
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
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