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Hapahauli
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I've already answered all of this stuff, but I'll pull it together for you. [QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:06 Hapahauli wrote: EBWOP: Reformatted - missed a /quote [QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote: I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.[/Quote] But you suggested that we should RNG lynch a lurker!!! [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=11#201]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=11#201[/url] [/quote] From the post you quoted literally right above your sentence: [QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote: I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.[/Quote] I suggested we RNG a lurker because it's more likely to kill scum, imo, than just choosing one, since they can manipulate that choice.[Quote] Nonono see, that's a contradiction, not an explanation. In your original post, you made no mention of "RNG lynching as a backup" or whatever. You were seriously proposing an RNG lynch, which goes directly against the statement I quoted. [Quote]Seriously the case on him is basically nothing but "he made a bad case". If there's more I haven't seen it explained, so please do.[/QUOTE] He's a good player, and made a bad case. I think there's plenty of scum motivation for this. Hell he's been absent from the thread for a while now - don't you find that the least bit suspicious? It's one thing to say that my evidence is insufficient - it's another to say it's bad on D1 when we have nothing else to go by. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On September 01 2012 03:47 strongandbig wrote: I've already answered all of this stuff, but I'll pull it together for you. From the post you quoted literally right above your sentence: I suggested we RNG a lurker because it's more likely to kill scum, imo, than just choosing one, since they can manipulate that choice. Nonono see, that's a contradiction, not an explanation. In your original post, you made no mention of "RNG lynching as a backup" or whatever. You were seriously proposing an RNG lynch, which goes directly against the statement I quoted. Seriously the case on him is basically nothing but "he made a bad case". If there's more I haven't seen it explained, so please do. He's a good player, and made a bad case. I think there's plenty of scum motivation for this. Hell he's been absent from the thread for a while now - don't you find that the least bit suspicious? It's one thing to say that my evidence is insufficient - it's another to say it's bad on D1 when we have nothing else to go by. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Thing is with Momentoss, is that I can see a townie posting in that manner. Sure his logic is questionable and he fingerpoints, but that type of post can come from a townie. I have no reason to vote him for now. | ||
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On September 01 2012 04:25 marvellosity wrote: ok it's not been discussed at all, but it keeps being pushed. s&b seems to think that Mamba's case which is full of crap is less scummy than Hapa's pressure vote on Hopeless1der, and it makes no sense to me at all. He says he's not happy to vote someone based on one bad case, but is extremely happy to be suspicious of Hapa pressuring Hopeless. Why this disparity? There's that, and his "policy lynching is a last resourt" + "oh lets RNG lurker lynchhhh" thing. As much as I hate the logic, it doesn't necessarily read scummy to me yet. It's incoherent/inconsistent in a way that could be townie. Also, SnB atleast is putting in effort so far, and I don't know enough about his meta to infer anything but bad townie from it. Do you think he's scummy marv? Have any relevant meta reads on him? | ||
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Especially after seeing this post, him making multiple comments on players before his main suspicion seems to be his style. I think his post is well thought out, and we should be looking at some of the people on his wagon, as well as BMB, given how little attention he's been getting. It fells like the mementoss cases are a counter-wagon to BMB. (Someone with knowledge of mementoss's meta correct me if I'm wrong). | ||
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On September 01 2012 05:51 Risen wrote: Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"? I'm trying to push a lynch on my top scumread. I really don't know what to make of Palmar, but I find BMB scummy and therefore I'll rally support on him. | ||
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Regarding the case on Shady, I think it's Bad Town rather than Bad Mafia (apologies to the colorblind). Shady's posts read as a stream of consciousness to me, and not necessarily scummy behavior. Also, part of your case mentions guilt-by-association between BlackMamba24 and Shady... so why not vote BM24? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=13#258 Solid post, good logic, and I agree with most of what he says (still believe BM24 to be more scummy than Shady). Shouldn't that absolve him a bit? | ||
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Hapahauli
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Lynch all lurkers is stupid You're right - now I'mma gonna lynch you. | ||
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And you have yet to convince me why your case isn't the scummiest thing in the thread. | ||
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