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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 18:30 GMT
#227
What are some of your other reads Ghost? Do you still think BMB is not mafia? What are some of your town reads?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 18:53 GMT
#231
[QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:47 strongandbig wrote:
I've already answered all of this stuff, but I'll pull it together for you.

[QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:06 Hapahauli wrote:
EBWOP: Reformatted - missed a /quote

[QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote:
I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.[/Quote]

But you suggested that we should RNG lynch a lurker!!!

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&currentpage=11#201]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&currentpage=11#201[/url]
[/quote]

From the post you quoted literally right above your sentence:

[QUOTE]On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote:
I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.[/Quote]

I suggested we RNG a lurker because it's more likely to kill scum, imo, than just choosing one, since they can manipulate that choice.[Quote]

Nonono see, that's a contradiction, not an explanation. In your original post, you made no mention of "RNG lynching as a backup" or whatever. You were seriously proposing an RNG lynch, which goes directly against the statement I quoted.

[Quote]Seriously the case on him is basically nothing but "he made a bad case". If there's more I haven't seen it explained, so please do.[/QUOTE]

He's a good player, and made a bad case. I think there's plenty of scum motivation for this. Hell he's been absent from the thread for a while now - don't you find that the least bit suspicious?

It's one thing to say that my evidence is insufficient - it's another to say it's bad on D1 when we have nothing else to go by.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 18:54 GMT
#232
EBWOP: Goddamnit I suck at formatting.

On September 01 2012 03:47 strongandbig wrote:
I've already answered all of this stuff, but I'll pull it together for you.

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 03:06 Hapahauli wrote:
EBWOP: Reformatted - missed a /quote

On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote:
I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.


But you suggested that we should RNG lynch a lurker!!!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&currentpage=11#201


From the post you quoted literally right above your sentence:

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 03:00 strongandbig wrote:
I think I've said it before in this thread, but my position is pretty much always the same. Policy lynches and lurker lynches are almost always a bad idea. The only time they're a good idea is when you don't have any better candidates or cases - or when there's a serious need to force everyone to shape up.


I suggested we RNG a lurker because it's more likely to kill scum, imo, than just choosing one, since they can manipulate that choice.


Nonono see, that's a contradiction, not an explanation. In your original post, you made no mention of "RNG lynching as a backup" or whatever. You were seriously proposing an RNG lynch, which goes directly against the statement I quoted.

Seriously the case on him is basically nothing but "he made a bad case". If there's more I haven't seen it explained, so please do.


He's a good player, and made a bad case. I think there's plenty of scum motivation for this. Hell he's been absent from the thread for a while now - don't you find that the least bit suspicious?

It's one thing to say that my evidence is insufficient - it's another to say it's bad on D1 when we have nothing else to go by.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 19:16 GMT
#234
Momentoss is slightly scummy right now, and BMB is my top scumread.

Thing is with Momentoss, is that I can see a townie posting in that manner. Sure his logic is questionable and he fingerpoints, but that type of post can come from a townie. I have no reason to vote him for now.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 19:22 GMT
#235
Since we're 7 hours before the lynch deadline, it's worth mentioning that Node has yet to post, and MrZentor has yet to do anything...
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 19:31 GMT
#237
On September 01 2012 04:25 marvellosity wrote:
ok it's not been discussed at all, but it keeps being pushed.

s&b seems to think that Mamba's case which is full of crap is less scummy than Hapa's pressure vote on Hopeless1der, and it makes no sense to me at all. He says he's not happy to vote someone based on one bad case, but is extremely happy to be suspicious of Hapa pressuring Hopeless.

Why this disparity?


There's that, and his "policy lynching is a last resourt" + "oh lets RNG lurker lynchhhh" thing.

As much as I hate the logic, it doesn't necessarily read scummy to me yet. It's incoherent/inconsistent in a way that could be townie. Also, SnB atleast is putting in effort so far, and I don't know enough about his meta to infer anything but bad townie from it.

Do you think he's scummy marv? Have any relevant meta reads on him?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:18 GMT
#254
@ Shady - I feel you on Node, but there's no point in voting him if he's in danger of getting modkilled. May I suggest BlackMamba for now? If he doesn't come back, he's a good lynch, and we can pressure him into posting a defense.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:20 GMT
#255
Can we get a votecount?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:41 GMT
#262
Pretty much 1000000% agree with mementoss.

Especially after seeing this post, him making multiple comments on players before his main suspicion seems to be his style. I think his post is well thought out, and we should be looking at some of the people on his wagon, as well as BMB, given how little attention he's been getting. It fells like the mementoss cases are a counter-wagon to BMB.

(Someone with knowledge of mementoss's meta correct me if I'm wrong).
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:42 GMT
#263
wtf is MrZ doing. Does he normally do this marv?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:46 GMT
#266
Is he generally this lurky D1 though? Could interpret the whole lurklurklurk ---> PalmarVote as scummy behavior I suppose.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 20:49 GMT
#269
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#280
On September 01 2012 05:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.


Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"?


I'm trying to push a lynch on my top scumread. I really don't know what to make of Palmar, but I find BMB scummy and therefore I'll rally support on him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:22 GMT
#283
Also, reading your stuff on Shady nao
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:22 GMT
#284
EBWOP: that was @ Risen. Love getting doublesniped like a boss.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:32 GMT
#286
@ Risen

Regarding the case on Shady, I think it's Bad Town rather than Bad Mafia (apologies to the colorblind). Shady's posts read as a stream of consciousness to me, and not necessarily scummy behavior. Also, part of your case mentions guilt-by-association between BlackMamba24 and Shady... so why not vote BM24?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:50 GMT
#289
@ HiroPro - given Mementoss's recent posts, you still think he's scummy?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 21:55 GMT
#292
Howbout this stuff?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&currentpage=13#258

Solid post, good logic, and I agree with most of what he says (still believe BM24 to be more scummy than Shady). Shouldn't that absolve him a bit?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 22:15 GMT
#297
It goes beyond "not a rock-solid case." It's a terrible case. And everyone around here is telling me that you aren't a terrible player.

Lynch all lurkers is stupid


You're right - now I'mma gonna lynch you.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 31 2012 22:21 GMT
#301
I'm not talking about lynching lurkers now. I'm talking about lynching you.

And you have yet to convince me why your case isn't the scummiest thing in the thread.
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