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On September 01 2012 10:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Howabout this - were the other 4 people voting for MMtoss find it convincing? Hell HiroPro's case is in two parts:
1) MMToss's first post (fluff/fingerpointing)
2) MMToss's association
HiroPro instantly accepts defense to #2 when #1 is still in the air.
You're wandering away from the point. You have no real reason to put suspicion on anyone for changing their mind based on a defense when it's something everyone does. Maybe you have some sort of weird solipsitic viewpoint but it's pretty clear to me reading both your filters that you had nothing to do with HiroPro dropping his pressure on Mementoss.
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You're not really understanding what I'm saying so I'm going to drop this argument. He did address and acknowledge the earlier post very specifically. You're making even less sense now than you were when you were trying to get me lynched.
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I've been selected to be L's right hand and everyone needs to read the day post
Apparently that means something. I'm restating it. I don't know if I get special powers or whatever now but that's a thing that's just happened.
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I'm sorry, right arm not right hand.
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Yeah, I thought about that and I'm still thinking about it. Ultimately, just because he was convinced by a defense that I wasn't convinced by doesn't necessarily mean he is scum or that the case was wrong to begin with. He might be more gullible or more easily misled. It could also be that they're both town as things often are Day 1 and scum are sitting in the background splitting the town up to make Day 2 as chaotic as it possibly can be.
I've been only sitting down for increments of like 10-15 minutes and because there's so little to go off of on Day 1 (relatively) there is a lot of second guessing and hard thought to be put into it that I don't currently have time for.
If I end up with a DT power or something like that, I'll be a lot less anxious about things.
It's not unusual for me as town to change my vote something like 8 or 10 times on Day 1 and I'm trying to avoid doing that now.
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On September 01 2012 10:44 Shady Sands wrote:
Black, even if you're not convinced by Hapa's line of reasoning for a vote, if you do become Cop, please, please, please check HP.
I'll check whoever I feel like checking and will absolutely ignore any advice any of you give me.
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On September 01 2012 10:56 MrZentor wrote:
Solar, vote for Palmar.
Be useful.
You're the least useful person in this or any game so
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On September 01 2012 11:03 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 11:02 HiroPro wrote:
I don't want to lynch Palmar. The fact that he's in the lead despite there being no case against him should in itself suggest that he's town. And if Palmar is town, he's definitely someone to have around. Palmar needs a spanking. I'm pretty sure he's town as well since I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who was even angry at him and he now has 5 votes.
Everyone else who voted for Palmar besides you is incredibly suspicious because you never even really accused him of being scum. Your case was "I don't like Palmar" and somehow that's the most convincing thing Day 1? I can't believe it. I don't want to be in this game anymore.
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This is a tragedy
the day one of the best scumhunters on tl mafia was lynched because some nobody doesn't like his playstyle and everyone seemed to think that was an adequate case im glad i came out of retirement for this
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same basic thing haupahauli did except i got shit on ruthlessly for it by everybody. at least palmar has a history of lying and trolling as town and funnily enough also has a history of nailing scumteams.
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On September 01 2012 11:12 HiroPro wrote:
I'm voting for Mementoss. I have a null read on him, but I have no desire to lynch Palmar. Blackmamba has been picked as L's right so he is almost certainly town and I trust his judgement.
##Vote Mementoss
Don't ever trust my Day 1 judgment, I won't really have anything useful to pop out until Day 2. That's almost always the case. I have some reads forming and some factions but they're all pretty dependent on what happens tonight and at the end of the day before I can say anything substantial.
Anyway, L has no way of knowing my alignment when he picked me. My only power is receiving a short anonymous message from L. I'm assuming the point of this is so that I can broadcast his reads. This makes me mafia must-hit target #1. You figure out the rest.
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On September 01 2012 11:14 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 11:12 HiroPro wrote:
I'm voting for Mementoss. I have a null read on him, but I have no desire to lynch Palmar. Blackmamba has been picked as L's right so he is almost certainly town and I trust his judgement.
##Vote Mementoss Is there a reason you trust his claim 100%? I don't see why a scum would lie about that, but I don't know why a townie would openly claim that, either, unless L told him to.
Literal message I received:
"Announce yourself in the thread as L's right hand and tell people to read the day post"
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Please consider not voting for someone because another player in the game dislikes them when there is literally absolutely ZERO indication of their alignment and no one is making an argument at ALL that they are scum and the person that started the bandwagon and still votes for them even says "Yeah he's probably town"
are you that stupid tl mafia players
are you that fucking stupid
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On September 01 2012 11:35 Risen wrote:
Well I can't say I'm surprised. Hope you learn your lesson.
never play mafia again
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I have been instructed by L to tell the thread that L's servant has disposed of Hapahauli.
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I've been told by the mod that at least 1 town aligned player knows the significance of the name "suspicious detective" and that the colors of the names are significant. This implies that Palmar was a third party of some sort or maybe had his alignment hidden by some form of scum power.
If that town player who knows the significance of the role and knows that it is the equivalent of a miller, please come forward and tell us so that we can lynch strongandbig. If it is NOT a miller role then there is no need for you to reveal anything.
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L, in your next message to me can you please indicate whether you know the alignment of your "Servant". I'm pretty sure you do but if you can fit it in as an aside it would be very helpful to me.
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my guess is that L's servant is Watari and isn't he an expert sniper/hitman or something like that
so it's probably a predetermined town aligned role
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I'm kicking myself. Marvellosity was my top gut scumread near the end of day 1 but I was too lazy and felt it was too late to pursue it.
On August 31 2012 22:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 22:51 ghost_403 wrote:
Calm down, Hapa. Just because BMB wrote up a subpar case on Day 1 does not mean that he's scum. BMB (aka DoctorHelvetica) is very good at this game. I doubt that anyone can know his alignment quite yet, nevermind based on a single case he's presented on Day 1.
@BMB: You are DrH, right? Why are you attacking Hapa for pressuring a pile of shit case?
This was the post that made me "know" in a sense. Lazy me can't accomplish much.
Anyway Hapahauli man you gotta take the blinders off your case against HiroPro was just amazingly bad I'm probably gonna be playing with you quite a bit in the future and it can't go on like this
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On September 06 2012 14:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Mmhm, I think me picking up on "townies don't think like this" was alright (considering he was L), but I should've considered the guy was a blue. Geebus that was bad.
yeah but you didn't have a case not even like one single point against him
nothing he did or said was untownlike or scummy
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