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BloodyC0bbler
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On August 25 2012 05:49 Toadesstern wrote: so we meet again mr BC. bets on who'll die first this time? Me. If I am town I will be offed night 1 by mafia. If I am mafia I will be offed by town or bussed by mafia. If i am Third party I will be checked first shot day 2. I r going to lose. | ||
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On August 27 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote: Play! judging by the roster its gonna be a pretty average game. I dont think there are any vets yet. No Vets? Sweet, BM time to troll | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:12 Mattchew wrote: I am a nosy neighbor. Anyone else with this role should insta-claim as well. The reason people policy lynch people like BM and Grush is because they get by into later in the game because they are unreadable. This is because they barely actually play the game and if you end up in lylo with one of them left, you've basically already lost. I completely understand anyone wanting to policy lynch them, but we should also not allow them to be off the hook for some sort of scum read during the day. That being said, I remember thinking to myself that I don't hate BM's play in the last few games I have been in with him. I do not want to policy lynch today. Just saw this post. You are scum sup. | ||
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you claimed miller. How would a miller know they are a miller? thus you are scum. | ||
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Good thing I know I'm right. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:34 BlackMamba24 wrote: Anyway - ##vote BloodyC0bbler. Nosy Neigbor specifies that you will not know who you visited, not "you will not know that you are the nosy neighbor" which implies that they would at least know they are the nosy neighbor. Nosy Neighbor makes a lot of sense as a scum fakeclaim it's probably what I would claim if I had to and thinking about SNB from Death Note mafia I have no reason to implicitly trust mattchew but the fact that you're throwing suspicion on him this early and this stupidly is completely consistent with your scum meta so bye If you think I am wrong prove it. I wouldn't make the statement if I was not 100% sure I was right. As such you have defended a confirmed liar and are scum with him. Seriously people do you think I would call someone out if I didnt know my shit? -_- | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:34 BlackMamba24 wrote: Anyway - ##vote BloodyC0bbler. Nosy Neigbor specifies that you will not know who you visited, not "you will not know that you are the nosy neighbor" which implies that they would at least know they are the nosy neighbor. Nosy Neighbor makes a lot of sense as a scum fakeclaim it's probably what I would claim if I had to and thinking about SNB from Death Note mafia I have no reason to implicitly trust mattchew but the fact that you're throwing suspicion on him this early and this stupidly is completely consistent with your scum meta so bye Also given that you recognize the claim makes sense as a fakeclaim you should realize I wouldn't call someone out given my playstyle unless I knew I was right. As you note that it makes sense as a fakeclaim, a scum making said claim WHILE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO CLAIM. Seriously, are people this dumb? or have I been deluding myself for ever. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:40 Hapahauli wrote: So your rationale is "How would a miller know they are a miller?" Well if he's telling the truth, he would know he's a Nosy Neighbor, because according to the setup rules, he would have knowledge of his title. Thus if telling the truth, he would know he's a miller. So... you're 100% sure he's lying? Something I'm missing here? I am 100% sure. Nosy Neighbor is a miller role. A player never knows they are that role and a miller is always included in OP as a potential role. Again I say I am 100% right and nosy neighbours are for all intents and purposes a miller for this game and do not know they are a nosy neighbor. This is information 100% accurate given setup information. If you think I am lying prove me wrong, there is a way to do so. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:46 BlackMamba24 wrote: 1. Burden of proof is on you to prove mattchew is lying 2. whether or not it makes sense as a fakeclaim does not indicate his alignment whatsoever. your case is that you know 100% he is lying, ok and on what grounds can you support that? you haven't shown any so far bad bc You can prove I am lying with 1 action. As you have yet to do so (hey its even in the OP to find out how to prove me wrong). You are right, his fakeclaim doesn't prove he is mafia on its own. However, HIM ASKING FOR CLAIMS DOES. Why would a townie fakeclaim and attempt to get all blues to claim ? No townie day 1 should ever be this fuckign stupid. Even if he gets caught as mafia (as I have caught him) had anyone or if anyone proceeds to claim and a bunch of retard blues out themselves mafia is instantly ahead. Use your head DrH. You know how I play and know even as Mafia I don't spout complete bullshit. If I am calling someone out like this I know I am in the right. So in the offchance I am mafia I know hes lying, and as I am town I know hes lying. There is only one way for me to know he is lying given that this is a setup mechanic. Figure out how I know and you then you will know the same thing I do and realize hes fucking lying. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:51 DarthPunk wrote: It seems to me that the best play for a self aware nosy neighbour would be to claim immediately. Your whole Argument rests on the assumption that they are not self aware, which is something that is not clearly defined in the Rules. And yes the burdon of proof is on you as you are making the accusation. It is a fallacy to proclaim 'I am right unless you prove me wrong.' No miller/neighbor is self aware in any game ever except odd pyp/ptp like setups as it defeats the purpose of the role. This game holds true to the same rule as normal games for the mechanic. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:53 Hapahauli wrote: Let's do this the easy way: Is the "Nosy Neighbor" self-aware? Does he receive his exact title in the role PM? Stop breaking rules yo | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:56 Mattchew wrote: there have been games with self-aware millers Thankfully this game does not. | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:58 BlackMamba24 wrote: now he's making up fake scum motivations for your claim not even really reading your post just cherrypicking and trying to push his fake case. hes scum. Yes, the liar is town and the not liar is scum. Drh Logic ftw. Now people know why I play less, because logic doesn't exist here. You are right, I did misread his post for that I apologize, i skimmed saw what I thought was bs and posted on it. He still clearly lied. Give me a town motivation for lying at this stage in the game drH. Please tell me what a townie gets from lying about his role this early into the game. | ||
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On September 04 2012 12:01 DarthPunk wrote: BC clearly stated that he is making an assumption based on his experience with previous games. This discussion is pointless until someone hears from a mod. It isnt an assumption. | ||
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On September 04 2012 12:04 Mattchew wrote: devils advocate answers: vanilla trying to look blue and draw a shot blue trying to look vanilla No mafia will shoot a nosy neighbor and any vig who does is stupid, blue trying to look vanilla would claim vanilla. You don't claim miller. Miller is a mafia claim to explain why they do shit at night. Pre claiming is to add "legitimacy to it" | ||
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On September 04 2012 12:29 Z-BosoN wrote: It's not like it's the end of the deadline, we are still a long ways to go... plus, votes don't count in this thread. Also, the discussion up to now is going nowhere. BC has made it a point to say that he knows something we don't, but won't clarify. If he did indeed learn something game changing as that, I presume Palmar would have announced it in this thread. So, he's directed the whole discussion at him, and has disappeared. This is all but productive.. How I know was answered already in thread. -_- As for disappearing? I am not. I have said all I really can on that matter at this time. | ||
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