• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:03
CEST 13:03
KST 20:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)5Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!38Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! XUN appreciation thread
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7453 users

TL Mafia LVII - Page 7

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 20 Next All
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:53 GMT
#1607
On September 10 2012 08:46 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 04 2012 19:37 Bill Murray wrote:
austinmc aka autismnc

I BROUGHT HIM UP AS A JOKE

On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?

then i filtered him, and i was like, holy fuck this guy has 3 wall posts and is the most obvious blue I HAVE EVER SEEN

but i didnt want to give it away, so i decided to engage him in questioning, as seen above

On September 06 2012 07:21 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:18 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?
Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains.

It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this.

Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:
  • Matt got caught
  • Ottoxlol tried to save him, without realizing how bad an idea it was
  • Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was
  • A decent scum player told him right after he got caught looking very odd that he couldn't back off his defense, because then he'd look even scummier
  • So he went full bore nuts, and that's why he won't listen to anyone or anything


It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this.

Do me a favor, and go read Gravan's filter as if he were a scum idiot

and then i encourage him to scumhunt, which he does. It was awesome. My questioning lead to him posting a little more, which may have bought him another cycle. IDK. Regardless, notice how I'm trying to get him to engage me in more scumhunting? I have no suspicion of him at all, not only do I figure he's town, I know he's blue/red, and I'm leaning blue at this point. He's not acting as per his townie meta, and he looks blue as shit versus being scum. He could be scum here, but that's why I'm questioning him at all, really, to see how he will react.

Well, he reacted well, so I, as above, asked him about Gravan

On September 06 2012 08:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:32 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:27 Bill Murray wrote:
ohhhh i get the bm/bm/bc thing now
yeah we're the 3 most obvious pro-town... regardless of alignment
possibly toad or even hapahauli... austinmcc is very pro-town as well, but i'd like to see more one liners from him


On September 06 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
If Gravan gets vigged (lord willing) and flips scum, do you see any conclusions we can draw from it?
Yes, that the scum team is trolling, because that would mean that they've all dun goofed hard.

If matt claimed nosy neighbor AND ottoxlol defended him like he did AND gravan didn't check QT or nobody put something in QT saying "EVERYONE SHUT UP AND VOTE MATT," then I have a hard time believing there's a ... scum leader? I assume some of the players in this game have played real nice scum games, where they sort of orchestrated everyone's moves. If Ottoxlol and Gravan are both scum, then I have a difficult time believing that scum has such a player. At the very least that guy should be running damage control after Matt and ottoxlol make themselves obvious.


if their "leader" is someone who is really into policy like Forumite or Toad then I could see a breakdown like this

Without an overseer, you cannot see Dark Templar. Capiche?

Notice how I'm FoS the "top scum" who is likely Forumite
I don't think it's Toad - pretty sure he's town as per meta by now... he's just such a good player, that I'm wary of him.
Back on track, and off tangent, the bolded line above is me saying "hey, you're blue, but don't worry about me... im not scum"


wait I'm confused what exactly you're saying here.

so you're admitting you, like i, as town, rarely read nested quotes?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:53 GMT
#1608
On September 10 2012 08:47 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 08:46 strongandbig wrote:
On September 10 2012 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 04 2012 19:37 Bill Murray wrote:
austinmc aka autismnc

I BROUGHT HIM UP AS A JOKE

On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?

then i filtered him, and i was like, holy fuck this guy has 3 wall posts and is the most obvious blue I HAVE EVER SEEN

but i didnt want to give it away, so i decided to engage him in questioning, as seen above

On September 06 2012 07:21 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:18 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?
Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains.

It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this.

Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:
  • Matt got caught
  • Ottoxlol tried to save him, without realizing how bad an idea it was
  • Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was
  • A decent scum player told him right after he got caught looking very odd that he couldn't back off his defense, because then he'd look even scummier
  • So he went full bore nuts, and that's why he won't listen to anyone or anything


It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this.

Do me a favor, and go read Gravan's filter as if he were a scum idiot

and then i encourage him to scumhunt, which he does. It was awesome. My questioning lead to him posting a little more, which may have bought him another cycle. IDK. Regardless, notice how I'm trying to get him to engage me in more scumhunting? I have no suspicion of him at all, not only do I figure he's town, I know he's blue/red, and I'm leaning blue at this point. He's not acting as per his townie meta, and he looks blue as shit versus being scum. He could be scum here, but that's why I'm questioning him at all, really, to see how he will react.

Well, he reacted well, so I, as above, asked him about Gravan

On September 06 2012 08:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:32 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:27 Bill Murray wrote:
ohhhh i get the bm/bm/bc thing now
yeah we're the 3 most obvious pro-town... regardless of alignment
possibly toad or even hapahauli... austinmcc is very pro-town as well, but i'd like to see more one liners from him


On September 06 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
If Gravan gets vigged (lord willing) and flips scum, do you see any conclusions we can draw from it?
Yes, that the scum team is trolling, because that would mean that they've all dun goofed hard.

If matt claimed nosy neighbor AND ottoxlol defended him like he did AND gravan didn't check QT or nobody put something in QT saying "EVERYONE SHUT UP AND VOTE MATT," then I have a hard time believing there's a ... scum leader? I assume some of the players in this game have played real nice scum games, where they sort of orchestrated everyone's moves. If Ottoxlol and Gravan are both scum, then I have a difficult time believing that scum has such a player. At the very least that guy should be running damage control after Matt and ottoxlol make themselves obvious.


if their "leader" is someone who is really into policy like Forumite or Toad then I could see a breakdown like this

Without an overseer, you cannot see Dark Templar. Capiche?

Notice how I'm FoS the "top scum" who is likely Forumite
I don't think it's Toad - pretty sure he's town as per meta by now... he's just such a good player, that I'm wary of him.
Back on track, and off tangent, the bolded line above is me saying "hey, you're blue, but don't worry about me... im not scum"


wait I'm confused what exactly you're saying here.

specifically i mean the bread crumb thing or whatever it is you're claiming at the end.

I don't believe in cryptography. I'm not risking a moderator getting mad and myself getting modkilled for a third time. 3 strikes? you're out.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:58 GMT
#1611
hahahaha. It's all good, man. 2 am? You in Germany? LOL
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 00:51 GMT
#1623
bullshit. I am VERY vocal in my blue reads. My town play is looked down upon, but my SCUM play?
Name 1 scum in this game who would direct over me?
None.
idiot
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 00:52 GMT
#1624
i don't typically "wifom" over night kills
but this was my ONE BLUE READ IN THE ENTIRE GAME
he would have died n2
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 00:52 GMT
#1625
or n1
whatever... whenever that happened
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 01:52 GMT
#1635
On September 10 2012 10:11 Forumite wrote:
@DoYouHas

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote:
slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid.

Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case.
Who is this friend who told you to always kill Bill murray?

Yes, an old post but I don´t think it was answered.

He did answer. L. L doesn't feel that way anymore in reality; he's just trolling around with this poor guy, but he got replaced, so why does it matter now? Forumite why are you so scummyyyy
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 02:20 GMT
#1636
Z-Boson, considering I called him as vig, I would have killed him

ill get around to answering you shortly
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 03:19 GMT
#1641
Ill answer that. I'd rather lynch imallinson today, contrary to what most of you believe. I'm leaving Toad/Forumite for now. If they're town, it will help the town.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#1656
On September 10 2012 18:16 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:52 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:11 Forumite wrote:
@DoYouHas

On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote:
slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid.

Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case.
Who is this friend who told you to always kill Bill murray?

Yes, an old post but I don´t think it was answered.

He did answer. L. L doesn't feel that way anymore in reality; he's just trolling around with this poor guy, but he got replaced, so why does it matter now? Forumite why are you so scummyyyy
No luck then. I had a hunch that it might have been a scumslip. I thought DYH heard a policy in the scum-QT, said it in the thread but couldn´t say in the thread where he heard it because it would have made himself and his scumbuddy look bad.

he may have
i have a scumread on DYH and him getting replaced doesn't help




to my naysayers, try to get a wagon on me going, it will only help me see who is scum
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:21 GMT
#1657
"No idea why BM wants to lynch me. Then again I have no idea why BM does anything he does. I'm sure he will enlighten us all later but until then I'm just going to ignore that.
"

the vig thing, and being up against Forumite
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#1658
i really don't want to lynch either of you, and i plan on voting DYH's replacement, or you know... having like 3-4 scum suspects and voting one after a thorough read of this game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#1659
@Kreb, if he was mafia, and I was mafia, I would bus the shit out of him, knowing a wagon wouldn't ever develop, without any need to back off of him
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:25 GMT
#1660
FURTHERMORE, AS I HAVE DEMONSTRATED, I CALLED AUSTIN BEING A VIG BEFORE HE DIED
BEFORE N1
AND HE DIDNT DIE N1
AND I WOULD HAVE DEMANDED AT LEAST 1 KILL OUT OF THE SCUM KILLS
AND HE WAS MY ONLY BLUE READ
SO.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 12:25 GMT
#1661
and, oh, yeah, the multiple posting as town thing that i do... sorry for that.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#1694

##UNVOTE
##VOTE FORUMITE
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 10 2012 23:47 GMT
#1695
NEXT UP, DON'T LYNCH MEMENTOSS. OR HAPAHAULI.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 12 2012 02:59 GMT
#1811
we're actually still in really good shape
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 12 2012 03:00 GMT
#1812
i really didnt want to lynch forumite. PERIOD.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#1820
fuck you darthpunk
im clear town, as i would have killed austinmc n1 if i was mafia
PERIOD
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Main Stage Day 4
IntoTheiNu 159
CranKy Ducklings SOOP16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech127
Lowko106
EnDerr 38
Rogue 5
Cure 4
Rex 2
Solar (SOOP) 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5330
Bisu 839
Jaedong 750
Horang2 715
Shuttle 647
EffOrt 359
BeSt 348
Mong 328
Mini 235
Larva 204
[ Show more ]
Light 194
Rush 184
Hyuk 177
Britney 163
Stork 118
Soulkey 110
Pusan 104
ZerO 81
Killer 70
Dewaltoss 69
Snow 67
Leta 64
Mind 49
ToSsGirL 38
sorry 30
Bale 26
Yoon 24
Hm[arnc] 23
Sacsri 23
soO 22
Barracks 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
JYJ 16
SilentControl 11
Free 11
NotJumperer 6
Sexy 5
League of Legends
JimRising 358
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1510
shoxiejesuss1359
pashabiceps1252
markeloff67
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
singsing1302
ceh9762
Sick147
B2W.Neo142
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 135
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• LUISG 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1412
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 57m
PiGosaur Cup
12h 57m
Kung Fu Cup
23h 57m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.