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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 09:48 GMT
#1491
On September 09 2012 18:11 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:10 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:09 slOosh wrote:
I don't even.

So Scum decided 1KP on BC was a good idea? ...
GK probably bombed ... so ...
Gah I'm just gonna wait till tomorrow NK to figure it out. By then vigs should have used their second bullet and should claim.

Gonna go cool off first.

Notice the capitalization of scum, and him seeming to have too much knowledge. Couple that with IIoA and I'm a little suspicious.

I didnt get this at least. From that post you make out that he seems to know too much. How? To me he is just speculating, which might not be worthy of a post to begin with but doesnt seem scummy to me.

i ctrl+ved the 2nd post onto the first, so the first references the ending of the post

im waiting on sloosh to provide some meta before I continue with this
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 09:48 GMT
#1492
On September 09 2012 18:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 18:11 Kreb wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:10 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:09 slOosh wrote:
I don't even.

So Scum decided 1KP on BC was a good idea? ...
GK probably bombed ... so ...
Gah I'm just gonna wait till tomorrow NK to figure it out. By then vigs should have used their second bullet and should claim.

Gonna go cool off first.

Notice the capitalization of scum, and him seeming to have too much knowledge. Couple that with IIoA and I'm a little suspicious.

I didnt get this at least. From that post you make out that he seems to know too much. How? To me he is just speculating, which might not be worthy of a post to begin with but doesnt seem scummy to me.

Kreb, BM is just trolling. Can you look at the DP/me/Hapa exchange in the past few pages and give us your thoughts?

Excuse me?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 09:49 GMT
#1493
Also, who the fuck is Kreb?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 09:50 GMT
#1494
Furthermore, I was asking Darth, not you all
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 10:37 GMT
#1502
On September 09 2012 19:05 Forumite wrote:
I don´t understand why Z-boson talks about asking vets to confirm the number of watchers. There are probably more watchers in this game but we can´t know, so using that as any basis for a lynch is a very bad idea. His post-lynch post about how vets should have confirmed the number of watchers and that there must be a scum among the vets, it's a useless post and doesn´t sit well with me. He´s trying to shift the blame on vets even though none of his suspicions have any grounds, but posts like that usually makes it easier to start a wagon later in the game because "people have been suspicious". I´d rather see Z-boson make a real case on someone.

Toades, we don´t know if Palmar deliberately made sure to put vets on the scumteam. Even if Palmar put vets on the scumteam, I once lost the game for town (as town) by trying to start a wagon on Palmar, because he was leading town too well. Do you think it´s likely he´d try and boost the scumteam by adding me?

Also; Bill Murray, get in here.

hmm? i need to catch up, but i've seen you beckoning me a few times
im waiting on an answer from sloosh before i proceed with my isolation on him
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 11:48 GMT
#1508
On September 09 2012 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
This is what I have no clue about and would like you to clarify.

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:08 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm going to iso someone at random right now.



Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:10 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 07:09 slOosh wrote:
I don't even.

So Scum decided 1KP on BC was a good idea? ...
GK probably bombed ... so ...
Gah I'm just gonna wait till tomorrow NK to figure it out. By then vigs should have used their second bullet and should claim.

Gonna go cool off first.

Notice the capitalization of scum, and him seeming to have too much knowledge. Couple that with IIoA and I'm a little suspicious. Sloosh, do you have any meta I can have? A town game, first, possibly a few (like 2 as green 1 as blue), and a scum game?

On September 09 2012 14:40 slOosh wrote:
Cool your heads - this is probably more detrimental than beneficial.

Vig, decide for yourself what you want to do with your second bullet. Cross reference what you take out of the BKEXE mislynch with the Mattchew lynch and a lurker list.

Logic
can lean towards information instead of analysis
sloosh is someone i'm going to FoS until I can further analyze.


I am unsure if it is me or your writing style but I really find it difficult to follow what you are saying. It seems like you do have something to say, so please help me understand by clarifying and expanding.

even if sloosh is being logical, his points are really just a summation of events as opposed to actually scumhunting
he seems to have more knowledge than I do at this point, but that might not be saying much (Y)
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 11:49 GMT
#1509
On September 09 2012 20:24 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 19:37 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:05 Forumite wrote:
I don´t understand why Z-boson talks about asking vets to confirm the number of watchers. There are probably more watchers in this game but we can´t know, so using that as any basis for a lynch is a very bad idea. His post-lynch post about how vets should have confirmed the number of watchers and that there must be a scum among the vets, it's a useless post and doesn´t sit well with me. He´s trying to shift the blame on vets even though none of his suspicions have any grounds, but posts like that usually makes it easier to start a wagon later in the game because "people have been suspicious". I´d rather see Z-boson make a real case on someone.

Toades, we don´t know if Palmar deliberately made sure to put vets on the scumteam. Even if Palmar put vets on the scumteam, I once lost the game for town (as town) by trying to start a wagon on Palmar, because he was leading town too well. Do you think it´s likely he´d try and boost the scumteam by adding me?

Also; Bill Murray, get in here.

hmm? i need to catch up, but i've seen you beckoning me a few times
im waiting on an answer from sloosh before i proceed with my isolation on him
Hurry please, you only have 10 hours to prepare a pre-deadline post.

You know I still am leaning scum on you?
Why should I hurry?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 12:46 GMT
#1513
im voting shady sands from here on out
not trolling
just going to make you all pick me or him regardless of alignment
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 12:47 GMT
#1514
On September 09 2012 21:01 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 20:49 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 20:24 Forumite wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:37 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:05 Forumite wrote:
I don´t understand why Z-boson talks about asking vets to confirm the number of watchers. There are probably more watchers in this game but we can´t know, so using that as any basis for a lynch is a very bad idea. His post-lynch post about how vets should have confirmed the number of watchers and that there must be a scum among the vets, it's a useless post and doesn´t sit well with me. He´s trying to shift the blame on vets even though none of his suspicions have any grounds, but posts like that usually makes it easier to start a wagon later in the game because "people have been suspicious". I´d rather see Z-boson make a real case on someone.

Toades, we don´t know if Palmar deliberately made sure to put vets on the scumteam. Even if Palmar put vets on the scumteam, I once lost the game for town (as town) by trying to start a wagon on Palmar, because he was leading town too well. Do you think it´s likely he´d try and boost the scumteam by adding me?

Also; Bill Murray, get in here.

hmm? i need to catch up, but i've seen you beckoning me a few times
im waiting on an answer from sloosh before i proceed with my isolation on him
Hurry please, you only have 10 hours to prepare a pre-deadline post.

You know I still am leaning scum on you?
Why should I hurry?
I´m ignoring your earlier FoS on me. So far the only cases on me have been bad play, less aggressive than usual and "is scum because there must be scum vets, and the other vets flipped town. If you have anything real to add then I´ll listen to it, but I´m tired of weak suspicions without basis in evidence.

Anyway you should hurry because you are a vet, you are lurking, you are not helping town right now, and because you might have less than 10 hours to live in this game. That should be enough reason to get active right now.

the bolded coupled together are all very contradictory
you are an assassin huh?
you should work with the town, btw, it is your only hope
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#1515
On September 04 2012 09:36 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 09:12 Mattchew wrote:
I am a nosy neighbor. Anyone else with this role should insta-claim as well.




The reason people policy lynch people like BM and Grush is because they get by into later in the game because they are unreadable. This is because they barely actually play the game and if you end up in lylo with one of them left, you've basically already lost. I completely understand anyone wanting to policy lynch them, but we should also not allow them to be off the hook for some sort of scum read during the day.

That being said, I remember thinking to myself that I don't hate BM's play in the last few games I have been in with him. I do not want to policy lynch today.
Why would you claim this? You eliminated yourself as a possible blue from scums list of townies, and it´s not like you doing this eliminates you as a scum suspect. If someone see you visiting a player who dies the we´re lynching you anyway.



No this is my case on you
you're coaching Mattchew and warning him that you're going to bus him
this looks like it was your shittily devised plan for him to even claim

FoS: Forumite
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 13:04 GMT
#1516
DOC SWITCH TO ME.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#1518
Guys ignore shadysands. He's trolling.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#1590
OK THIS CLEARS ME
NOTICE MY EARLY PRESSURE OF AUSTINMCC
HE WOULD HAVE DIED ALREADY
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#1591
On September 04 2012 19:37 Bill Murray wrote:
austinmc aka autismnc

I BROUGHT HIM UP AS A JOKE

On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?

then i filtered him, and i was like, holy fuck this guy has 3 wall posts and is the most obvious blue I HAVE EVER SEEN

but i didnt want to give it away, so i decided to engage him in questioning, as seen above

On September 06 2012 07:21 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:18 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?
Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains.

It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this.

Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:
  • Matt got caught
  • Ottoxlol tried to save him, without realizing how bad an idea it was
  • Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was
  • A decent scum player told him right after he got caught looking very odd that he couldn't back off his defense, because then he'd look even scummier
  • So he went full bore nuts, and that's why he won't listen to anyone or anything


It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this.

Do me a favor, and go read Gravan's filter as if he were a scum idiot

and then i encourage him to scumhunt, which he does. It was awesome. My questioning lead to him posting a little more, which may have bought him another cycle. IDK. Regardless, notice how I'm trying to get him to engage me in more scumhunting? I have no suspicion of him at all, not only do I figure he's town, I know he's blue/red, and I'm leaning blue at this point. He's not acting as per his townie meta, and he looks blue as shit versus being scum. He could be scum here, but that's why I'm questioning him at all, really, to see how he will react.

Well, he reacted well, so I, as above, asked him about Gravan

On September 06 2012 08:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 08:32 austinmcc wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:27 Bill Murray wrote:
ohhhh i get the bm/bm/bc thing now
yeah we're the 3 most obvious pro-town... regardless of alignment
possibly toad or even hapahauli... austinmcc is very pro-town as well, but i'd like to see more one liners from him


On September 06 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
If Gravan gets vigged (lord willing) and flips scum, do you see any conclusions we can draw from it?
Yes, that the scum team is trolling, because that would mean that they've all dun goofed hard.

If matt claimed nosy neighbor AND ottoxlol defended him like he did AND gravan didn't check QT or nobody put something in QT saying "EVERYONE SHUT UP AND VOTE MATT," then I have a hard time believing there's a ... scum leader? I assume some of the players in this game have played real nice scum games, where they sort of orchestrated everyone's moves. If Ottoxlol and Gravan are both scum, then I have a difficult time believing that scum has such a player. At the very least that guy should be running damage control after Matt and ottoxlol make themselves obvious.


if their "leader" is someone who is really into policy like Forumite or Toad then I could see a breakdown like this

Without an overseer, you cannot see Dark Templar. Capiche?

Notice how I'm FoS the "top scum" who is likely Forumite
I don't think it's Toad - pretty sure he's town as per meta by now... he's just such a good player, that I'm wary of him.
Back on track, and off tangent, the bolded line above is me saying "hey, you're blue, but don't worry about me... im not scum"
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 22:43 GMT
#1592
##Vote Forumite
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#1593
I actually like Shady Sand's Hapahauli vote. If Hapahauli takes off, I will definitely join.
I also found something from Sloosh that makes me not really care about him as much.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#1603
Mafia. So play it, and shut up. The ball's in my court, grandma.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:51 GMT
#1604
Forumite's appeal to me to unvote him (though implied) shall be heard at this time.
I will be honoring my word as a man, and voting Shady Sands.
Z-BosoN is town, as is Toad, and possibly Forumite.
This I have decreed.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:52 GMT
#1605
but, for now, I shall play League of Legends, as my draft pick game FINALLY queued.
level 29 ... gonna be tedious compared to all other 28
but the challenge? ha. i await.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 09 2012 23:52 GMT
#1606
speaking of the 80 pages of reading i'm going to be doing bi-daily
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