TL Mafia LVII - Page 5

On September 15 2012 06:41 Maverick32x wrote:
Ok, WOW- I'm switching to either Strong or Shady. They are scum. I dont know if I only have 20 minutes left or not, (just got home from work) but I will attempt to get some evidence out real quick.

I will be voting for whoever has the most votes right now, and I will type furiously to get my case together.

On September 15 2012 06:49 Mementoss wrote:


Also I was wondering, when you intially switched off of Gravan, you being the one who made the case, why did you switch, what changed your mind?

On September 15 2012 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can I has a cookie?

On September 13 2012 12:39 slOosh wrote:

Hey Grush, what is your current read of strongandbig & Toad?

On September 15 2012 07:51 grush57 wrote:
Hmm, the way he handled the auto confirm is a bit suspicous, and he like soft attacked Toad, so maybe botha re scum.

On September 15 2012 07:52 Kreb wrote:
S&B was buddying Toad a bit at the start though. Not sure why you'd buddy a mafia teammate....

On September 14 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Guhh ... why do you guys wait until now to play properly?

What Maverick did just now was a very very town thing. Feigning activity and making cases is easy. Calling the runner up lynch candidate town when you have the most votes is not. The only motivation to do that is that you are town, and you think this person is town. You can see that he doesn't value his specific survival over the town's interests. His case really shows his thinking process and also clarifies past contradictions (e.g. he left out Graven from his scum reads) - consistency like this is hard to setup as scum.

Gravan ... it's really weird with him. As Maverick points out he is playing consistently (regardless of quality). I remember thinking he was newbie town making lots of mistakes, and it could be he is scummy because of this. Also strange is the nature of the maverick counter wagon. Still thinking this one through.

ShiaoPi: his treatment of Mav is townish. Timezones are timezones. Select stuff in his filter make me think he is town and explain his actions but will not divulge unless there is a large enough body of evidence against him.

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This leaves me with two people:
SnB has not cared at all about the past two lynches. You can see from his filter that he jumps on the Forumite lynch with little to contribute while also discrediting Rewok. He jumps on the maverick lynch with little to add and also makes sure people know that everyone could be scum ("MMT made the case on Mav but you never know maybe he is scum"). His latest posts are pure setup speculation. He treats Toad very strangely - I'm not sure if he thinks Toad might be scum and hunting for reactions or he is pretending to engage in meaningful conversation.

Toad is someone who has flared up upon a proper reread of the Z-Boson mad hatter business. I originally thought him town after our little spat at the start of the game. However if you reread his filter carefully, you will notice that he uses "vet balance" to get Forumite lynched, but after that he says "oh I guess I was wrong, oh well". He seemed to taunt Z-boson near deadline and called for vig shots on him even if he was town because he would die anyway. I know I said mafia wouldn't kill a potential mad hatter but I forgot that there is a very good chance of a roleblocker in the game, as we still don't know about austin's 2nd shot. I find the explanations for his dismissal of SnB and BM to be beyond just strange, as he is ignoring possible scum on raw setup speculation.


Thoughts please, we need to get this lynch right.

On September 14 2012 20:13 Shady Sands wrote:
These are my top lynch candidates at the moment:

Gravan
Maverick

I also have a strong townread on SnB, and my previous townread on sloosh is slipping into null territory after his weak list above.

On September 15 2012 08:06 Shady Sands wrote:
Since I thought at the time that Gravan was scum, anyone who came out before a lynch was inevitable on Gravan and made noises about lynching him earned town points in my book. Now that S&B has flipped scum, I retract that and I think Gravan is just a bad town who other scum tried to latch upon. Grav's behavior, in particular, over the past few hours has been very townie and returns my read on him to null.

On September 16 2012 04:56 Shady Sands wrote:
ebwop meant to say over the final day of the heated D4 lynch. Toad was ambivalent to who got lynched that day, which makes sense if you think of him as scum and all of the prospective candidates at the time (me, Grav, MMT) as town.