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slOosh
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Does the Suicide Bomber go through Assassin's night kill immunity? | ||
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Things to note is the change to permanent 2kp, as well as the addition of vigilante as a possible scum role. BM I'm interested on how any town circle would work with the existence of the suicide bomber. | ||
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slOosh
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Toad - How is that useless stuff that has nothing to do with the game? The setup changed and maybe people haven't read the updates. I've asked you once and I'll do it again, what else do you want to talk about? | ||
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slOosh
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On September 04 2012 07:55 BlackMamba24 wrote: My general stance is that every blue should ultimately do what they want. The environment of this game should not be about confirming blues and then doing what they say. Just because someone is innocent does not make them right in their convictions or accusations so it isn't of too much help really except for process of elimination. If a town plan arises I'm not gonna be a part of it but I advice blue players to use their own judgment. Never lynch someone just because they wouldn't claim to the town leader or whatever, that's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve, etc. Don't bother asking me for my reads because I will never post a list of reads and I hate it when other people post "reads". Thanks. What do you mean by "reads"? Are you talking specifically about general lists opposed to focused discussion on a certain player? | ||
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slOosh
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On September 04 2012 07:58 Toadesstern wrote: I don't know what you want to talk about. I'm talking about your useless post being useless. Well BlackMamba's recent post just shows that people can miss information. My post has already proven itself useful, and your opening post which tries to discredit mine has not. Do you think I'm scum by my first post? | ||
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On September 04 2012 08:09 DoYouHas wrote: Well, as per usual I like lynching lurkers day 1 if a scummier option doesn't present itself. Blues should do as they see fit. Discussion in that area only gives scum more points of reference for blue hunting. In the past L has assured me that this is always the correct course of action, sooo ##Vote: Bill Murray No, I will be holding you especially to a higher standard of posting. Stupid throwaway votes like this just give scum more room to spam / hide. Pick something better to talk about. What do you think about Toad's aggression against me, like less than 30 minutes into the game? | ||
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slOosh
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On September 04 2012 08:01 slOosh wrote: Well BlackMamba's recent post just shows that people can miss information. My post has already proven itself useful, and your opening post which tries to discredit mine has not. Do you think I'm scum by my first post? On September 04 2012 08:03 Toadesstern wrote: because of that one post? Of course not. Well your sentiment seems to be that you do indeed think I'm scum. Using my posts written prior to your retort (quoted above), can you show how you came to this conclusion? | ||
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On September 04 2012 08:02 Hapahauli wrote: Errr... well I wasn't planning on anyone taking that image seriously. I hate town circles. They're distracting to discussion and give people easy outs to "look" townie by "contributing" as opposed to scumhunting. I hate blue-oriented discussion in general really - it makes it easier for mafia to snipe blue roles by testing player reactions. Hell the idea of publicly determining blue actions is silly, considering it gives mafia the one information advantage that town has over mafia. Could you clarify what you mean by this point? | ||
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slOosh
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On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote: slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid. Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case. Your comment on Toad's aggression doesn't really mean much since he explained himself. What is my town meta and how am I playing to it? | ||
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On September 04 2012 08:32 Hapahauli wrote: Mafia don't know what blues are going to do. Mafia's not going to know who the medic is saving or the blue is checking on a nightly basis, and can't play around their actions. Why should we publicly telegraph blue actions and give away the information advantage that blues hold? Alright, just making sure, specifically directing blue actions is stupid. We should however publicly claim all rb and shots. | ||
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slOosh
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On September 04 2012 08:36 DoYouHas wrote: Your town meta from when I have played with you is to herd the rest of the town. Pointing out information (like with the 2kp thing) and taking issue with not just the content of posts but the style. You try to make the town play how YOU want them to play. The rest of your meta doesn't really come into play until cases start being made. I am making note that you just used me to defend yourself though, which I do not like. And Toad's aggression isn't null because he explained it. It is null because it is. Either alignment has plenty of cause to go after you like Toad did. Scum could want to start the mudslinging early and look aggressive and confident. Town may have just not liked what you wrote. Where did I do that? And your response to Toad's aggression is itself null for you, regardless of what it is for him. | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:05 Forumite wrote: Finished with page 12. What is your problem with Toades? Do you think he´s deliberately disruptive? What makes you think I think that? | ||
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On September 04 2012 10:00 Forumite wrote: Let me rephrase: What is your problem with Toades play in this game? You were reacting very strongly to a random vote coming right at the beginning of the game. I reacted strongly because there was no grounds for the vote / read. I still have a problem with the fact that he keeps emphasizing the uselessness of the post (it isn't, because as clearly seen that people can miss setup information), which I take as soft discrediting of my posts in general. I'm not claiming my opening post is super useful, but to call it useless is unwarranted. That said I can see this coming from a town perspective, so my problem with his play thus far is a matter of taste rather than alignment. On September 04 2012 10:04 Z-BosoN wrote: Um... this: " My post has already proven itself useful, and your opening post which tries to discredit mine has not" You are saying that he tries to discredit you ---> you think he tried to discredit you ---> if he tried to discredit you, you are saying he wanted to do this and is being deliberately disruptive. Why not just straight answer the question without adding another one? There is a difference in someone discrediting me and someone being deliberately disruptive. Forumite phrased the question in a way that seemingly put words in my mouth as I said the former but not the latter (or never intended to so I checked with my question). | ||
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On September 04 2012 11:12 Z-BosoN wrote: @slOosh Very well, seems reasonable. Thanks for clearing that up. What is your take on Darthpunk? Nothing particularly scummy. | ||
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slOosh
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On his side its raw gutsyness, and as people have pointed out if it's a scum strat then it ends up with a D2 lynch on him, or even a N1 vig shot; it is unlikely that he would pull this off to kill a town Mattchew as I don't think anyone can wriggle out of the subsequent backlash lynch. A 1-1 on Mattchew is stupid, especially if it could end up him (BC) lynched first, which would make it a 1 for nothing. On Mattchew's side is the self-aware miller claim. If millers were self-aware, they would out themselves, and it would strengthen his claim. If they aren't self-aware as they usually aren't, he would be safe until someone flipped nosy neighbor, in which case his lie would be exposed and he lynched. In a big game like this, potentially worth it. Unlikely that both are town as it would mean a lying townie. Unlikely that both are scum cause it's so sub-optimal. I'd lynch Matt first on the basis that BC's demeanor seems more honest than Mattchew's. I mean, some guy is screaming his head off that you are a liar, and if you know that your role PM is "Nosy Neighbour" then the other guy (BC) must be an idiot or a liar. Mattchew isn't treating him like an idiot, nor is he treating him like a liar. The response is off (I base this off my experience fake claiming in Bureaucracy Mafia). If we get ... news of something otherwise, it's easy enough to switch. But even without it behavior analysis should be enough. Dunno why you haven't thought of voting him though BC. ##Vote: Mattchew | ||
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