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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 08 2012 17:34 GMT
#1293
On September 09 2012 02:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 02:28 grush57 wrote:
So BKE or Z Boson?

care to answer my question?

Sigh, I guess BKE is scum, fakeclaiming and just idk man.
Plus if we lynch BKE and he flips scum we'll get a lot of info from pushing me the easy lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: BroodKingExe
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 08 2012 17:38 GMT
#1297
On September 09 2012 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 02:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Thankfully things are getting active in here again, but I wanted to discuss the BKE fake-claim a bit.

I think all of us agree that the likely order of events last night consisted of double-stacking one person, while suicide bombing the other (between BC and DrH). BKE's watcher claim suggests that it was BC who got double-stacked and BM24 who got suicide-bombed.

Now unless something about the Day2 post suggests otherwise, this seems highly unlikely. BC was much more of a confirmed town (after outing Mattchew) than DrH was. To the average reader here, BC would seem like much more of a target for blue actions (watcher, medic, etc.) during the night. Isn't it much more likely for mafia to have suicide-bombed BC? There would be a much higher chance of blue's visiting BC after he caught the first mafia. I find it so unlikely that DrH was suicide bombed (over BC), and this is why I'm doubting the BKE claim.


This is irrelevant and not evidence. Regardless of your own opinion, mafia could have Bombed DrH and NK BC. It is possible. and thus BKE's claim is possible. Your preconceptions on what you would have done does not necessarily reflect what others did, and thus this in no way disproves BKE's claim.

OCKHAM'S RAZOR BITCH
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#1538
HOLY SHIZAH
ITS FORUMITE
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 20:25 GMT
#1555
Oh Z-Boson, you are so confused.
S&B was not contradicting himself at all in that post.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 22:06 GMT
#1584
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LETS LYNCH...................................................................................................................................................................................

ForUmITe1@!@#!@#!@#
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#1594
On September 10 2012 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I actually like Shady Sand's Hapahauli vote. If Hapahauli takes off, I will definitely join.
I also found something from Sloosh that makes me not really care about him as much.

He died..................................
THEREFORE SOMEONE VIGGIED HIM AND YOU ARE MAFIA AND DIDNT REALIZE
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 23:06 GMT
#1597
On September 10 2012 07:58 Forumite wrote:
I get the feeling that scum decided on those nightkills very close to the deadline, since Hapa and austinmcc dropped suspicions on BM, Toades and me right before dying.

About Toades case on me, I´ve been busy and haven´t been putting much effort into the game. Yes, I´m more cautious than my usual meta, which unfortunately puts me closer to how I behaved in Wheel of Fortune Mafia, my scumteam kept a low profile while town lynched eachother, this tactic worked well in that game. There´s not much more to say except that I have some serious rereading to do.


i BELIEVE!
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 23:06 GMT
#1598
On September 10 2012 07:52 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 07:47 grush57 wrote:
On September 10 2012 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I actually like Shady Sand's Hapahauli vote. If Hapahauli takes off, I will definitely join.
I also found something from Sloosh that makes me not really care about him as much.

He died..................................
THEREFORE SOMEONE VIGGIED HIM AND YOU ARE MAFIA AND DIDNT REALIZE

Is that actually a scumslip or is he just too lazy to read the day post?

Idk bm didn't respond so might actually be a scumslip.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 10 2012 21:45 GMT
#1673
The game that I played with Forumite and he flipped 3rd party he played much more townlike. Though that could of been an adjustment now. Anyways, it's our best bet.
##Vote: Forumite
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 21:40 GMT
#1772
On September 12 2012 05:23 Mementoss wrote:
btw how grush manages to live this long every game blows my mind

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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:18 GMT
#1786
On September 12 2012 07:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
What a bad case, has so many wrong information on it, and much of it I've already gone over. Makes me HIGHLY suspicious of you for coming with it so late.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 06:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
My vote is going to go to Z-BosoN. There are just too many aspects of his play that rub me the wrong way.

BKE played awfully

Following the BKE lynch, ZB's response was to point out how it was the veterans' fault because they wouldn't answer his question regarding whether or not there were likely to be multiple watchers.

Nope, wrong. I already explained this, not going over that again.

Keep in mind that Toad actually did address his question in this post.

missed this. big deal..

He also points out how he would have constantly repeated the question if he hadn't been forced to keep defending himself "unnecessarily". He points the finger at the remaining vets, says how townish he would have been had he been under less pressure to defend himself, and then martyrs himself by saying that he shouldn't have put up with the silly cases against him. All of this means absolutely nothing. His entire massive post seems like a waste of time to me, but it's clear that he's trying to turn it into townie points for himself.

I already said, I thought I was onto something at the time. Not going to repeat this, read my response to imallinson's case

Following the "vets are all suspicious now" paragraphs, he tells austinmcc to save his case against [him] for day 3, should [they] both live. He then elaborates on what he *would have thought* if austin's case *had come a little bit later.* Not only is he trying to completely stiffle a case being brought against him in order to pursue the illogical suspicions of all of the remaining vets, but, again, this entire section says nothing whatsoever. If this would have happened, then I would have found you scummy. Don't you think I could have found you scummy? But really, you're just thick.

I still stand by what I said. Wasting time discussing me at night would prove useless. Since the odds were high that one of the vets would die, we should just have tried to get as much input from them as possible. I gave my thoughts on why I thought this was a good choice, but you choose to ignore them.

Then there's his death post. Another post that I felt was unnecessary. He says that he thinks Hapa is town because Hapa thought he was town, and then points out how what Hapa said could just be a scumplay trying to gain townie points. I don't even know what we're supposed to have taken from that, but all it did for me was plant the idea of Hapa swindling town points out of our pockets using ZB's sterling reputation. It feels like he's subtly boosting his own towncred while calling Hapa's into question.

No. I said that hapa is almost surely townie UNLESS I die and he doesn't, and I explained why.

He then says that he didn't like Toad's good-bye post.

... Why are you writing a good-bye post if you don't like that someone else did it?

Yes, that's exactly what I said. I don't like good-bye posts. I didn't even say why I thought his good-bye post was scummy, and neither did hapa. We just don't like good-bye posts. What a dumb point.

He follows it up by saying that if Forumite flips red, then Toad *might* be confirmed town. He also points out how very good at bussing Toad is. Again, this entire paragraph tells us nothing.

As does this one. Actually, no, mine actually says that it didn't look like a bus, so if forumite was scum, toad would not likely have been scum.

Finally, we get to the "Lurkers" section, where he points fingers at everyone else in the game. He also repeats the fact that the scum vigi hasn't used his shots yet. First of all, he seems too certain of there being a scum vigi. He mentions it repeatedly.

I honestly thought there was guaranteed. Also, the first one to say this as an assumption was imallinson

On top of town not knowing if one exists, there's nothing we can gain from that reasoning. There's too much wifom involved. This is another case of ZB trying to follow a line of reasoning that doesn't help town (just like his irrational obsession with the number of watchers in the game) and only wastes time.

Wastes time in regards to what? Sheeping? I'm constantly trying to figure stuff out. I don't pause and think if I will look suspicious or not if I find something. I've made bad points and I've made good points.

On top of that, he calls for someone who hasn't even been a part of the game yet to be the top lynch candidate for D3. What were we supposed to discuss? How Lvdr didn't post and how I had to read 80 pages to get caught up? This part is a little OMGUS-y, but it's a ridiculous claim that can't be supported in any way. It casts dispersions on me when I haven't done anything. He was attempting to find scummy behaviour where there was none, and distract the town with it.

Again, I was assuming that mafia had a vig. I also said later that I was wrong for this

I apologize that this is appearing so late. I had to attend class and then ride the bus home. It takes forever <.<

##Vote Z-BosoN


I urge you to read everything instead of nitpicking things that could make me suspicious in your narrow little view. Half the stuff I've already explained. Don't bother me with shit cases please. You only show you are biased when making cases and can't read

He didn't vote the guy that flipped town so he is scum?
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:18 GMT
#1787
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Z-BOSON
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:21 GMT
#1788
Actually I don't think a scum would act the way Z-Boson is playing. He is just playing extremely bad. You may say, grush stfu ur a stupid troll. Yes, but the point still stands.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 01:28 GMT
#1805
Sigh.
Sloosh your not being yourself
Why......
:'(
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 01:32 GMT
#1807
Either him or Toad is scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 19:53 GMT
#1859
Hi!
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#1874
On September 13 2012 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
Guys, I will have to go soon, and won't be able to post through the night. However, I don't want to die tonight, because I'm starting to get some decent scum reads, so I'm actually gonna claim here.

I am a Mad Hatter


And I absolutely know Toad is scum. His goodbye post, claiming that he is townie in supposedly a "Good-bye" post. His disappearance in day 3. His switch from grush + gravan to me and BM out of nowhere. His reluctance to post in D3. His flimsiness on forumite. His bullshit straight above.
I'm not gonna bother making a whole case on this, because there is one thing that makes me go from 80% scum to 100%. I'm not gonna go into details, but if you want you can find it out for yourselves. I did a SHITTON of reading on N1 and N2, reading as carefully as I possibly could, turning on my hidden message finder mode.
It is insanely subtle, but fuck yea, I saw it. Anyways, hats off to you wrote it, but what I don't understand is why you didn't go after him, knowing what you knew. When both me and hapa were on his tail after that post, you could have very well given us support...

So yea, trust me when I say this, toad is absolutely 100% scum.

Anyways, I've always thought him scum ever since that N1 post, and my bomb has always been, and will be tonight as well, on him.

Thus, I am at no fear of death, because mafia wouldn't make this 1:1 trade, not in a million years.

Of course Toad is going to throw is bullshit at us once again, saying how I'm making this up, how that's impossible because he's townie, etc... but trust me when you say this - he's in fact bullshitting us, he's scum. If you want to confirm it for yourselves, just read the posts in N1/N2 super-carefully, and you'll see what I mean, especially in them nested quotes.

To the rest of you little lurking scum shitheads, I'll find you.

If you wanted him to die whyd u post that during night....
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 22:07 GMT
#1877
Toad plant your bomb on me we will have a huge chain reaction!
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 22:09 GMT
#1879
Nvm, I just thought Toad claimed mad hatter.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 12 2012 23:52 GMT
#1896
Yay confirmed Vet.
Lead us and we will sheep!
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