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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 22:31 GMT
#1033
Hmm, goodkarma suiciding on BC the vet I guess.
Plus we got rid of Ottox so gj viggies
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 22:32 GMT
#1034
On September 07 2012 07:30 slOosh wrote:
I'm guessing someone vigged Ottoxlol, mafia stacked KP one of BC or BM and then suicide bombed into the other hoping to catch some blue prots. Time to do a lot of re-reading.


Yea probably double stack on Black Mamba. Or 2 people got hit but one was saved by medic.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 22:37 GMT
#1036
On September 07 2012 07:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Shame a shot got wasted on Ottox. Oh well.

##Vote Miltonkram

@ Grush
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:31 grush57 wrote:
Hmm, goodkarma suiciding on BC the vet I guess.
Plus we got rid of Ottox so gj viggies

Shouldn't you... uh... NOT be happy vigi shot a green role?

Yea but it's better than just about any other townie. Better than say the vigi going crazy and shooting Toad or something.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 22:37 GMT
#1037
Which Ottox would of done if he was vigi btw.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#1040
On September 07 2012 07:39 Forumite wrote:
If Ottox would have been alive right now then I expect he´d allready have a few votes. Him dying saved us a day of discussion.

That too. Probably would of wasted a cycle.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 23:44 GMT
#1051
On September 07 2012 07:55 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 22:07 austinmcc wrote:
Grush, if everyone in this game were a toaster, who would be the most energy-efficient? The quickest to make toast? The most likely to burn down a house?
If you're still around

Hmm, another fancy question.
I'm assuming the first question is who provides the most information and least fluff.
Second question fastest at making cases/scumhunting.
Third the most chaotic/scummy.
HMM
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#1052
I would of put Ottox at third question and BC at second question.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#1053
This is hard Town is REALLY active and good this game.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 00:30 GMT
#1055
On September 07 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:37 grush57 wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Shame a shot got wasted on Ottox. Oh well.

##Vote Miltonkram

@ Grush
On September 07 2012 07:31 grush57 wrote:
Hmm, goodkarma suiciding on BC the vet I guess.
Plus we got rid of Ottox so gj viggies

Shouldn't you... uh... NOT be happy vigi shot a green role?

Yea but it's better than just about any other townie. Better than say the vigi going crazy and shooting Toad or something.
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On September 07 2012 08:48 grush57 wrote:
This is hard Town is REALLY active and good this game.

Wouldn't mind lynching him either.

first one: I agree, Ottox dead is good but I don't like the 2nd part. Why me? I'm your strongest townread? Or am I your most influential townread? The latter one would mean mafia agenda.
second one: what did that post refer to? I'm not understanding what you're trying to say here and out of context saying "This is hard Town is REALLY active and good this game." sounds pretty contradictory. Like you're obviously happy that town is active and good this game (right?). If that's the case what's hard? Out of context it really sounds like you don't like town being active and good, neither does it sound like you're part of "town". So what's the meaning of that post?

Anyways, see you tomorrow.

You're the only vet left. I just used you as an example of a townie. Second part I can't pick who is the best right now, town is just great this game compared to other games, EX: PTP Pikachu, was the point I was making.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#1056
So we're in good shape right now. I'll look through some people's filter tomorrow.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:15 GMT
#1135
What is happening?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:16 GMT
#1136
On September 08 2012 05:57 DoYouHas wrote:
Ok, I think Hapa is right about Brood.
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 16:20 BroodKingEXE wrote:
About Mattchew (who I think is town):
Here's my breakdown of the situation : Matt's roleclaimed and given two reasons he claimed to avoid mislynch and/or draw a mafia shot. At first glance the roleclaim seemed like a great idea, but as I thought about it there were just too many holes. My initial thought was that it was a good idea and that could have been Matt's (based on the reasoning too). 1. Another problem I find with lynching him is that what he has done (roleclaim) isn't verifiable until he is lynched. Right now its a coinflip and I haven't seen anything else that suggests he is scum. 2. Fakeclaims aren't good basis for a lynch, they're not even able to be confirmed until the lynch, so I cant vote for him unless his posting sounds scummy.


1. - This bit is fine. Not wanting to lynch just to verify a roleclaim makes sense.

2. - This is where it crosses the line into scum territory. In the space of one sentence Mattchew has gone from a roleclaim to a fakeclaim. It could be construed that what he is saying here is that the belief that someone has fakeclaimed and lynching them to confirm it is not a good enough reason. However, that isn't what he actually said. He said, "Fakeclaims aren't a good basis for lynch". That makes the contradiction Hapa pointed out both plain and valid. I also don't like how Brood left himself a way out with "so I cant vote for him unless his posting sounds scummy".



This explanation about Ottox is wrong.
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 05:10 BroodKingEXE wrote:
About the Ottox thing, Ottox is a stubborn townie and people need to know that. If they don't he's going to be considered scummy for the wrong reason. I saw a lot of people piling on Ottox for a trait that he has as town (his ignorant stubborness), so I presented another thing I saw he wasn't doing (scumhunting) as a better reason.

It makes no sense to defend your top scumread. Who gives a crap if someone is backing you up for the wrong reason? You make note of that and use it against them later. You don't try and convince them to not pressure the person you think is scummiest. This looks like BS to me. Also, I'm surprised you cite his lack of scumhunting as the only valid reason because earlier you posted this, directed at Toad:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:34 BroodKingEXE wrote:
You can understand my fustration though right? Right now I see you as a player that's asking questions but not paying attention to the answers. Scummy in my book.

So for Toad it was scummy but for Ottox it was completely innocuous? It seems far more likely that you were caught hedging than having this explanation be true.

##Vote: BroodKingEXE

Was that post from BKE before or after Palmar's?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:18 GMT
#1137
That post was before Palmar's post, lets see if he disappears after.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:23 GMT
#1138
On September 07 2012 21:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 14:48 Bill Murray wrote:
id love to lynch maverick or hapahauli
why are people voting BKE?
can i get a summary of the case?


BKE "Fail-Bussed" Mattchew

Read the bolded segment below (occurs right before Palmar confirms the Mattchew fakeclaim).
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 16:20 BroodKingEXE wrote:
About Mattchew (who I think is town):
Here's my breakdown of the situation : Matt's roleclaimed and given two reasons he claimed to avoid mislynch and/or draw a mafia shot. At first glance the roleclaim seemed like a great idea, but as I thought about it there were just too many holes. My initial thought was that it was a good idea and that could have been Matt's (based on the reasoning too). Another problem I find with lynching him is that what he has done (roleclaim) isn't verifiable until he is lynched. Right now its a coinflip and I haven't seen anything else that suggests he is scum. Fakeclaims aren't good basis for a lynch, they're not even able to be confirmed until the lynch, so I cant vote for him unless his posting sounds scummy.


BKE states that fake-claiming isn't enough to lynch Mattchew. Hell the entire post is wishy-washy for reasons I pointed out in the case earlier. It's a very scummy post overall, but the "fake-claiming" bit is the most important, because BKE turns around two pages later after the mod confirmation and does this:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:12 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


Wow.


Mattchew hadn't posted anything in the interim to, as BKE put it, "sound scummy." BKE went from not wanting to lynch Mattchew for a fake-claim, and then when everyone jumped on Mattchew, treated the fake-claim like a huge scum-slip.

That's all you need to know really. It's indefensible.

He said that it wasn't enough to lynch because it wasn't confirmed.After Palmar confirmed him not knowing then he voted for him, like everyone else.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:24 GMT
#1140
On September 08 2012 06:23 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:18 grush57 wrote:
That post was before Palmar's post, lets see if he disappears after.


What?

Was looking through his filter. Unlike 5 people, he still posts after the Palmer situation.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:25 GMT
#1141
This reminds me of LVI where BKE got mislynched and he was way scummier that game.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:26 GMT
#1142
Wow lvdr didn't post since september 3rd whats this bs
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:39 GMT
#1144
Not hard defending him, I'm just pointing out things in your case. He isn't 100% scum, but if it comes down to it I'll probably vote for him.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 21:40 GMT
#1145
AND NO IM NOT SCUM :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 07 2012 22:12 GMT
#1149
On September 08 2012 06:52 Toadesstern wrote:
grush is mafia. BKE's probably; if BKE's not mafia it's probably foru?

But I had almost no time today as friends came over so I'll have to reread things tomorrow. Haven't even read what happened the last 4 hours so far except for an incredible fast read.

Kill me it will help the town I promise :D
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