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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 17 2012 00:04 GMT
#105
On August 17 2012 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 05:33 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:23 Bluelightz wrote:
/replacement

Player list is too godly to not to :-D.


My nickname is BL :D

This newbin in my blood, it came from a family tree. My grandaddy was a newb. My great great grandadddy was a newb. I'm talkin' bout newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

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newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.


I like this guy already.

Let's practise it, where is ma leenches, where is ma leenches.. you gotta say it together, it goes in together.. wheremaleenches.. ok check this out, wherem'leenches
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 17 2012 11:54 GMT
#108
On August 17 2012 12:38 BroodKingEXE wrote:
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On August 16 2012 21:26 Probulous wrote:
Bad news guys. I found out today that my work has blocked TL.This means the amount of time I have available to read and respond is going to drop dramatically. Expect less posts but with more substance. Unless of course someone knows an easy way around this.

Lol how many SC nerds are at your work?

Enough to fill 2 4v4 BGH games I suppose. This is the 2nd company I'm currently an intern at and nobody blocks teamliquid. One of my co-internees from the previous company got warned because of excessive bandwidth usage which is caused by watching TL streams and yet TL didn't get banned even after that.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 17 2012 13:07 GMT
#112
On August 17 2012 22:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 20:54 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:38 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:26 Probulous wrote:
Bad news guys. I found out today that my work has blocked TL.This means the amount of time I have available to read and respond is going to drop dramatically. Expect less posts but with more substance. Unless of course someone knows an easy way around this.

Lol how many SC nerds are at your work?

Enough to fill 2 4v4 BGH games I suppose. This is the 2nd company I'm currently an intern at and nobody blocks teamliquid. One of my co-internees from the previous company got warned because of excessive bandwidth usage which is caused by watching TL streams and yet TL didn't get banned even after that.

Where do i send my resume?

To the country that shares its name with a bird species

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Turkey that is
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 19 2012 13:25 GMT
#128
On August 19 2012 21:15 Palmar wrote:
role received, I'm a cop.

Day -1 role claim? Hell yeah. I didn't receive my role PM btw, don't know if that's only me or not.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 19 2012 13:44 GMT
#130
On August 19 2012 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
... lingu. come now.

Uhh...
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 18:05 GMT
#134
On August 21 2012 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMGUS much. I'm not gonna vote for you because I don't want to be accused of OMGUS but....could you get any more OMGUS? I just don't think so. obvScum imo imo. Also

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 03:00 Palmar wrote:
We never roll the same alignment btw.


The irony is palpable.

Actually I think that VE looks twice as much scummy as Palmar. Since Palmar did his balls-to-da-wall day -1 dtclaim, VE is trying to get pointless discussions and OMGUS chains off of it.

On August 20 2012 00:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:15 Palmar wrote:
role received, I'm a cop.

Lies.

LAL

GG no re

Just look at this post. Full of stupid purposeless shitty shit. Zero contribution to the scumhunt, does not support well-structured discussion, only blatant and poorly supported accusations accompanied by not-so-cleverly hidden message, which tells Palmar that VE and his scumbags will kill him, that is if they fail to utilize a bandwagon on him.

##FoS VisceraEyes
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 18:30 GMT
#137
On August 21 2012 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
Jaggy-lu, you need to work on your blue-claim analysis

I got interested in "who is trying to benefit from the blue-claims" rather than "whether the guy is actually a blue or not". Scum may be cooperatively working in that, one scum might do a blue-claim with the others trying to generate a chaos of it, but I don't think scum would do such a move. It might lead a lynch for one of them. If they're both scum, losing one person in the day 1 just won't work for them. VE might or might not be a scum trying to benefit from a rc or Palmar might or might not be a dtclaiming scumbag. But scum wouldn't risk one of them dtclaiming, trying to generate chaos out of a dtclaim is a lot safer for them.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 21:21 GMT
#147
On August 21 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, there's a defense to be made...I'm just not seeing it. I posted scummy as shit.

How about....


I got it.

Pro-town atmosphere. Right guys? Right?

Well, first time in the thread, you have posted something good. Something that implies your awareness about the accusations on you and the reasoning behind those accusations on you. But, well... Defending these accusations won't be as easy as posting distractional shit like "pro-town atmosphere" shitty shit.

However, despite all of that, I don't want to be ruthlessly attacking a single person just because he made a scummy post or two. If I start pushing that bandwagon, there might be people that push that bandwagon with me into a day -1 mislynch.

All in all, my FoS on you still stands and it will stand until you convince me that my suspicions on you are false, but I won't let that turn into a bandwagon unlike Palmar is trying to do here:

On August 21 2012 05:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMGUS much. I'm not gonna vote for you because I don't want to be accused of OMGUS but....could you get any more OMGUS? I just don't think so. obvScum imo imo. Also


What the fuck is this? Do you think I'm scum? If so, why not vote for me? It's completely irrelevant what town might accuse you of if you have nothing to hide.

Instead you refuse to vote for me based on nothing but fear for your own safety. There's two factions in mafia and only one of them puts their personal safety ahead of the progress of town.

Lynch this guy.

Considering a scummy post or two from VE, this is fast. I mean, so fast. He might be a naive townie who is impulsively thinking that VE is a scumbag, or a scumbag trying to create a chaotic atmosphere that will eventually lead us into a potential mislynch. Palmar might be talking by the wisdom of a DT check on VE, or pretending to be doing so. I think we should keep en eye on Palmar just as well, while waiting for the defense from VE about his scummy behavior here.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 21:22 GMT
#149
EBWOP: It's pretty strange of me being able to keep a straight head while doing this kind of posts.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#151
On August 21 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jangalang leaving himself backdoors out of everything. HEY GUYS LOOK HOW HARD I AM COMMITTING TO THIS STANCE but maybe we should reconsider too.

##Vote: Jangalang

Having backdoors out of everything? I'm just trying prevent impulsiveness leading us into poor decisions. Overcommiting on something that may lead us to a possible mislynch will harm us in 2 ways:

1- We lose a townie
2- We don't get any information in the exchange

As town, we're racing against the clock to stop scumbags. If they force mislynches, they conquer the town over our corpses by picking us off like muta flocks do to stray marines. We should just stick together and filter out the scum while not overcommiting to lynching single individuals this early in the game and staying away from anything that will lead us into early mistakes.

By the way, I expected and am still expecting a good defense from you, rather than poor accusations and calling names.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#153
EBWOP:



"We all the same, no calling names"
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:21 GMT
#154
On August 21 2012 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Dingaling

too many words, don't wanna read

##Vote: marvellosity

1- OMGUS
2- Too many one-liners
3- Trying to promote chaotic atmosphere by trolling each and every single person who is trying to contribute and trying to lose important arguments in your troll posts and spams.
4- Calling names
5- Doing a bad job of #4
6- Being notorious for rolling scum (that was you, right?)
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#157
On August 21 2012 07:24 marvellosity wrote:
you just described my town meta

well done

I'm not sure about it. Basing reads on metas can easily lead us into mislynches or letting scum get away just because some player decided to play differently for a variety of reasons.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#160
On August 21 2012 07:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Add fear-mongering to the ever-growing list of reasons I want to lynch Jangalang.

"Thinking this way could lead us to a mislynch.

Considering things like that could easily lead to a mislynch.

Lynching based on that could lead to a mislynch."


Everything can lead to a mislynch. I think lynching you isn't one of them.

Again, what would you gain from lynching me? Your post clarifies nothing in terms of what the town gains from it.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:46 GMT
#162
EBWOP:

On August 21 2012 07:40 marvellosity wrote:
VE knows what's up.

time to sheep

See what you do now VE? You're doing nothing but creating a possible bandwagon for scumbags.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:53 GMT
#164
On August 21 2012 07:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
The benefits are self-evident if you consider them in context. My vote is on you because I think you're scum. If you're scum, there's a clear advantage for removing you from the game via lynch. I don't have to tell the thread why lynching scum is a gain for town, it literally goes without saying.

Good thing you're only basing your entire campaign on a gut-feeling that I'm a scumbag and not on the thought that says that I'm a 14 year old boy whose real name is Dingaling Jangalang. I don't want to know how you'd act like in that condition.

By the way, this looks like something more than just a gut-feeling. You know something that we don't know. You're throwing the "Lynch Djangbang" thing out of nowhere and saying that I'm a scumbag. You won't do a bus play on the day -1 (which requires me actually being a scumbag just like VE), so you're trying to get me mislynched.

##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#165
On August 21 2012 07:52 marvellosity wrote:
or the best case in the thread that i agree with :OOO

die scum

This is either a horribly bad townplay or another scum we got here.

#FoS marvellosity
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#317
On August 22 2012 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
AND WHERE THE FUCK IS JANGALANG?!


On August 22 2012 11:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still perturbed by lack of Jangalang too.

Taking my sleep of beauty boy, I need to look good in the company I'm doing my internship.

On August 22 2012 08:35 talismania wrote:
Hey people I don't know: who are you and how you play?

How I play? Well, wish I played long enough to know it. This is my first game of Mafia in my life.

On August 22 2012 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
He wants your thoughts on your peers - how do they play, how is their skill level. He wants you to analyze them as players for the good of the town.

Good idea to be honest, let me start with this:

On August 17 2012 05:33 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:23 Bluelightz wrote:
/replacement

Player list is too godly to not to :-D.


My nickname is BL :D

This newbin in my blood, it came from a family tree. My grandaddy was a newb. My great great grandadddy was a newb. I'm talkin' bout newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

+ Show Spoiler +
newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.

However though, meta analysis doesn't work pretty well with people that have short history or Chezinu. So, in order to analyze two of us, we have to figure out what the guys (chezinu and me, you know... jangalang, dingaling, djingbing, whatever you call me). Unlike me though, Chezinu is easier to figure out. If someone knows what him/herself is doing, you can know what he/she is doing too. The problem with me though is I do not (Newbin been since newbin since been newbin since been newbin baby).

_________________________________________________

OK, back to actual game stuff:

On August 22 2012 09:48 Lvdr wrote:
To jump back to the rando-lynch topic:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=12#235

In this post you explain the strategy, but it doesn't seem particularly strong.

1. There is a good argument for a townie to be against it: more likely to kill town than mafia.
2. If it becomes policy, mafia would have to be insane to try and back out... particularly after a name is chosen.
3. If it is adopted unanimously, there will be no 'voting evidence' to look at later on in the game.


I agree with lovedoc in this. Random lynch is stupid imo and gives no discussion base for day 2 and imo it means that we're doing the scum's job for them. Lynching based on d1 reads seems better to me.

The idea of random lynch is too stupid to be put in action. My first impressions about the reasons why Palmar threw it in were:

a) Palmar is a townie and trying to go for individual pickoffs starting from people who are FOR the random lynch
b) Palmar is a townie and trying to go for individual pickoffs starting from people who are AGAINST the random lynch
c) Palmar is a scumbag and trying to create bandwagons for people who are AGAINST the random lynch claiming that the guy is not a townie just because they gave a thumbs down on the random lynch.

(Note: Marv told me that sometimes things are just the way they look in mafia, which I don't agree for this particular case)

Then I saw this post of Palmar:

On August 22 2012 11:16 Palmar wrote:
@Lvdr you seem to be pretty solidly against the idea of a Random Lynch, yet you've so far offered no true alternative to it, besides a weak accusation of Shady. In fact you're calling for VE to explain something in a perceived "downtime" which I'm not quite sure how to interpret.

Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?

If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?

Which eliminated the option a from my list. VE seems to be FOR the random lynch (or he's copycatting Chezinu), which Palmar didn't pick on.

On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.

It helps me understand how you play.

I think it is irrelevant. He just tried to bait him in, couldn't get the bait he wanted to get, backed out. It looks like

a) He's going for individual picking method and trying to really scumhunt
b) He's a scum trying to pretend he's joining the pro-town discussions and shit and may lurk the rest of the day off.

If he tries to lurk the rest of the day off or just try to do the same trick for more times, he'll look scummy to me. Nice little cute trick though, he might employ that in the future.

So, up to now, my reads are:

1- Lovedoc: He looks like just a friendly neighbourhood townie, who seemed to be in for traditional ways.
2- Palmar: He either seems like a DT or a scum, more likely to be a DT. I don't know which one, but it is irrelevant. Either way, he's going to give away scumbags.
3- VE: His style seems... trollish? Posting short and contentless stuff while observing the thread and people, then makes his move.
4- iamperfection: Lurky player, controversial posts, not a good read up to now. An odd idea (random lynch for the particular case) is not necessarily a stupid one (whereas stupid ones are necessarily odd ones). I think the idea is pretty stupid too, I agree with Lovedoc's reasons on that.
5- Bluelightz: Nice little tricks, looking like trying to get into the pro-town discussion. At least looking like.

VE's FoS on Shady took my attention at the last minute though, I'll check his filter too.
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 06:49 GMT
#318
EBWOP: Like I said before, Palmar never picks on Shady Sands either, who seemed to agree with the random lynch thing.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 07:05 GMT
#321
On August 22 2012 15:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
If only you knew sir. LOL

I love unbiased observations.

"If you only knew
The trials and tribulations we been through
But if you only knew
We're real people homey, just like you
We humble, but don't mistake us for some corny ass crew
What we do, is try to give you what you ain't used to"

Reminds me of this song:



On August 22 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes please...comment on my only bit of real actionable content before you write me off as trollish Dj.

I am not trying to "write you off as trollish" dude, I shit you not. In fact, your posting seems like a progamer's apm patterns, high amount of spamming in the early game combined with low percentage of actual in-game actions which in the later game turns into no spam and all in-game actions. Or is it? I don't know your style that much to know if it's true or not. I just saw the early game. I guess that's what happens if SC community plays mafia.
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