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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 29 2012 23:15 GMT
#1701
austin you around?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 29 2012 23:17 GMT
#1702
lol didnt refresh to see you just post, anyway, to austin

I would like to know your reads on kurumi, draz and hiropro
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 29 2012 23:26 GMT
#1703
I don't get what your saying.
Wiggles needs to die.
We'll go from there.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
August 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#1704
I'm around for a moment Matt. Current reads on them, vomited onto page without much editing:

Kurumi
I'm not sold on either alignment. Most townie thing about Kurumi? Appears to have created Zephirdd's role but is keeping quiet on exactly what the role is. It looks to be more than just "medic," and not revealing the rest bodes well for Kurumi right now.

On the other hand, + Show Spoiler +
On August 24 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 02:11 grush57 wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:09 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

Nah, Wiggles attacking bc is a null tell in my opinion. Look at the timing of this hit, if they wanted to kill bc they would do it faster, it smells like a frame to me.

Yeah I considered that aswell, but wiggles has been scummy HMMMMMMMMMMMM idk man

also biosc where u been at man!

Wiggles scummy ? He seems the only person devoting his time to this game. Some guys dont have enough time , yadda yadda. Although his theory on the lynch sounds wrong... Well I think Dirk is scum based on one post... I did not vote him because of my doubts (his points about viscera were good) it is hard to reread the thread on the phone, eh.

On August 24 2012 02:32 Kurumi wrote:
He said he did not have that much of time d1 and I believe him. Look at bum's play. It was lackluster too. Kita was around, but did not try to grasp the thread. Same goes for pretty much every vet. Bugs started a lynch and was just there... The game is really passive. Wiggles made a jump today. I think Bc was killed by scum to incriminate Wiggles.

. I can understand having that thought when BC got shot. But we're past that, we've had some more flips, we've had not much from Wiggles. I'm not liking that those are really the most recent mentions of Wiggles.

Currently leaning town by process of elimination.

Drazerk
Very, very active early. Very, very active whenever pokemon stuff comes up. However, gut feeling, his activity overall has dropped off since the very early game. Not excitement pregame --> nothing during game, but excitement D1 --> not as much lately. Gut feeling about that gut feeling, townie. I don't love the dropoff in activity, and haven't gone back to reread past games, but from what I remember of watching Holy Roman, he was pretty active and consistent throughout? The posting style gave him room to be more silly that game, but he sort of kept up his activity (as far as I remember). This game, not so much. So...not currently concerned about him.

Currently leaning town.

HiroPro
Finding hiro the most scummy of the three. These were my thoughts yesterday:
HiroPro - Hiro always seems to ask a LOT of short questions. It usually worries me somewhat. This game, he's had a lot of questions, but a pretty short filter compared to what I remember from other games. It also feels like he's not really DOING anything with the answers he gets. He asks for reads, he asks for thoughts on VE yesterday from a few people, but he doesn't DO anything with that. Again, from what I remember, I'm usually wondering the same things he is, and happy when his questions get answered. This game, I'm not getting that feeling so much.
I'm still not...loving the feeling that I get from him. It really feels like he's doing less with his prodding, which indicates to me that he may be prodding because he knows that's how he plays and so he's got to ask questions when scum.

Right now I'm still mulling over his
the mafia team kp probably changes flavor/type depending on who carries it out.
comment. Unsure yet whether it shows some knowledge that town doesn't have, or whether he's actually putting together some pieces. At first it really struck me as scummy, but I was alright with his answer that
Because I think it's unlikely that mafia have a kp (the team rocket thing) which has been blocked 2 nights in a row. It would make a lot of sense for Toad to have been the only one with that flavor, since he was Giovanni while all the other mafia have just been pokemon.

wbg is probably a mafia hit. And since he had an extra night life, he was probably double stacked that night (psychic only has 1 weakness in the original games).
He also claimed a hit last night, which would give us a LOT of KP. Like, I got hit last night. He got hit last night. That would mean that we had matt shooting dirk, mementoss raging misder who raged back, and 2 extra shots. We have no more claimed town KP, so that COULD be mafia factional KP + one mafia pokemon with KP? If we still have town KP besides mattchew, then I'm not sure I trust that he was hit. Everything just kind of...uncertain as to Hiro, but he's still giving me that off feeling and not a town feeling.

Out of the three, he's my scummiest. Out of people really playing, I THINK he's my #2 read behind Wiggles, but unsure. Other options out there like random Kenpachi scum.


Out for the night.

Fe fi fo fum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 30 2012 00:01 GMT
#1705
The reason why I'm "doing less" is because this game has pretty much been over since night 1 ended. mafia has had literally zero influence as far as I can see.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 30 2012 00:20 GMT
#1706
Train of thought post

11 people left (i believe, i wouldn't mind someone double checking my list spoiler'd below)
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Zephirdd
2. Kenpachi
3. Kurumi
4. Drazerk
5. grush57
6. BioSC
7. HiroPro
8. Mattchew
9. JingleHell
10. Mr.Wiggles
11. austinmc


Toad Chez Misder have all died as scum and WBG died as a sk

In a game of 25 there is likely 5 or 6 mafia, so 2 or 3 more out of 11 remain.




so in this game i think the basically confirmed town are

Mattchew, BioSC (its not his exact role, its how he has used it) and Jinglehell

people I have a town read on include

austin, zeph

people austin (i agree with his assesments) has a town read on

kurumi, draz

this leaves

kenpachi, grush, hiropro and wiggles as the make up of our scum team




zeph who have you protected each night? thanks
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#1707
btw

unvote
vote: mr. wiggles
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 30 2012 00:25 GMT
#1708
hiropro thoughts on my post?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 30 2012 00:29 GMT
#1709
im confirmed town. i wouldn't treat bio as confirmed town. mattchew is only leaning town And frankly I wouldn't be surprised if you were third party lol.

im leaning town on grush. draz is difficult for me to read - I'm only slightly leaning town on him.

otherwise my thoughts are fairly similar.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 30 2012 00:40 GMT
#1710
Hiro looks scummy for asking many short questions while providing little content of his own, and for always hopping onto the large bandwagons, but not being the first on them, and near always following after several votes were there already.

Day 1 he hops onto Imallinson third after WBG and Bum. He claims WBG ninja'ed his case, but it wasn't exceptionally long, so that claim is unverifiable at best, as it could have easily been written up in the time period between WBG's case and when he posted his own. His case is very similar to WBG's as well.

Day 2 he follows the Mattchew train with only a 1-liner of reasoning. He then switches to Hopeless with 1 line of reasoning when people start to vote that way and switch off Mattchew.

Day 3 he votes for me, which is where a lot of the lynch sentiment was going towards, but after I make some posts and people start acting a little more tenuous towards my lynch, he backs off. It's also weird how he attacks VE, but I didn't really look hard at Hiro at the time and noticed it:
On August 27 2012 07:31 HiroPro wrote:
hm, wiggles sounds legitimately annoyed. Can't decide whether to kill biosc or misder, drrrr.

##Unvote

Here he says he's going to try to kill either biosc or misder.

Then out of nowhere he comes in with a VE case. In his filter, there wasn't really any mention of VE being scum. The closest is a little bit of Day 1 pressure on him that wasn't followed up on. This looks weird, because it doesn't match up with the previous votes of following after several people were already voting for someone. However, I had posted that cycle that I though VE was scum, so it might have been a preemptive move predicting that's how I would vote. I'm not sure though. What do you think?

Then again this continues with Hiro hopping onto my bandwagon with actually zero reasoning for voting for me, following other player's examples.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 30 2012 00:41 GMT
#1711
On August 30 2012 09:29 HiroPro wrote:
im confirmed town. i wouldn't treat bio as confirmed town. mattchew is only leaning town And frankly I wouldn't be surprised if you were third party lol.

im leaning town on grush. draz is difficult for me to read - I'm only slightly leaning town on him.

otherwise my thoughts are fairly similar.

How are you confirmed?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 30 2012 00:41 GMT
#1712
Also, food for thought: I'm an invincible DT.
you gotta dance
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 30 2012 00:44 GMT
#1713
On August 30 2012 09:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, food for thought: I'm an invincible DT.

Cool.
Who's scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
August 30 2012 00:45 GMT
#1714
Oh since you claimed DT who'd you check, :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 30 2012 00:52 GMT
#1715
On August 30 2012 09:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, food for thought: I'm an invincible DT.


lol. Have fun talking wiggles.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 30 2012 00:52 GMT
#1716
Draitini checked town, Pikachu checked town.

That means there's a town check on Mattchew now as well. I have no idea who Draitini is. One of Kenpachi, you, Hiro, Draz, and Austinmcc.

If anyone made a frame/cover/GF/miller role, that would be nice to know too.
you gotta dance
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 30 2012 01:29 GMT
#1717
Mass claim time.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 30 2012 01:39 GMT
#1718
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#1719
hiro claim pokemon

wiggles claim the pokemon you are
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 30 2012 01:51 GMT
#1720
I just did....
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