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On September 02 2012 09:30 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 09:24 JingleHell wrote:
Voted Grush again. Not going to bother re-explaining why I want him dead, since people aren't paying attention or making rational sense anymore. You realize pretty much the entirety of your wanting Grush dead was because of your Grush/Misder/Mementoss triad? We've flipped the other two. One was town, one was scum. Since those flips, you just go "I still want to lynch Grush for all the reasons I said before." Those reasons included him being scum with scumbuddy mementoss. I heard mementoss was town.
If you haven't read any of the thread, that's really not my fault. I've wanted Grush since the beginning, based on multiple things, and the little possible link between Misder and Grush doesn't get weakened by Hopeless being town.
In short, if you're going to make grossly incorrect blanket statements, you're making my point about this town being fucking useless.
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On September 02 2012 09:51 Drazerk wrote:
JH your day 1 reasons for wanting grush dead were bullshit and you know it
Actually, they're about 1000% better than your moronic pile of shit you've been using to tunnel confirmation bias on me. So go fuck yourself. I'll check this thread again sometime around deadline.
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On September 04 2012 06:43 Mattchew wrote:
i shot kenpachi, and i think grush actually killed draz. so i think that jingle is last scum
also, i vote for 24 hour day
Yeah, no, I'm not scum. Or did you miss the part where Drazerk, who just flipped red, has spent the last couple of days trying to subtly push me as a good person to lynch?
I'm curious why I suddenly look scummy. Is it because I wasn't interested in beating my head against the brick wall who turned out to be scum?
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Oh, and Matt, remember that time I claimed, when all I had to do was keep quiet and you would have gone from a probable lynch to definite? What was my scum motive for that?
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On September 04 2012 06:56 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:43 Mattchew wrote:
i shot kenpachi, and i think grush actually killed draz. so i think that jingle is last scum
also, i vote for 24 hour day Considering drazerk is scum, why would he shoot someone who claimed reflectability? Pretty sure austin killed him(hint of that on his previous concerns regarding the KP he took). I protected mattchew trying to heal the confirmed townies, but I guess I lost the WIFOM battle. now, we have kurumi and grush. I don't think its surprising when I say that grush is the guy that should die: he has an anti-town role, playing completely insane, and everything he has done the whole game was finger point as town players with the exception of obvlurker misder Considering that kurumi has been making much more sense, it's needless to say that I think he is town. If he is scum, then well played. And I agree with 24hr days. ##vote grush57(will bold on the voting thread)
Glad someone is making sense around here. As usual, I'll be voting the same place. One of these damned years...
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On September 04 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:56 Zephirdd wrote:On September 04 2012 06:43 Mattchew wrote:
i shot kenpachi, and i think grush actually killed draz. so i think that jingle is last scum
also, i vote for 24 hour day Considering drazerk is scum, why would he shoot someone who claimed reflectability? Pretty sure austin killed him(hint of that on his previous concerns regarding the KP he took). I protected mattchew trying to heal the confirmed townies, but I guess I lost the WIFOM battle. now, we have kurumi and grush. I don't think its surprising when I say that grush is the guy that should die: he has an anti-town role, playing completely insane, and everything he has done the whole game was finger point as town players with the exception of obvlurker misder Considering that kurumi has been making much more sense, it's needless to say that I think he is town. If he is scum, then well played. And I agree with 24hr days. ##vote grush57(will bold on the voting thread) why not jingle?
If you're actually crazy enough to think you understand what scum was doing this game, and that it clearly proves I'm scum, when frankly, scum are mostly dying to Vigis, then flip me and feel like an idiot. I don't care.
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On September 05 2012 07:41 grush57 wrote:
HMM HMM THEN WHO IS SCUM?
NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JINGLE HELL GOGOGOGOOGOGOG
Only if I have some sort of bizarre reverse GF mechanic where I think I'm town, and actually scum, and host picks someone I don't like to shoot. Seems like a bit of a stretch, IMO.
Would be a pretty funny role though.
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Well, we've got very little to work with here. Bear in mind, Mattchew, if you use KP and actually succeed in killing someone, if the NK goes off, we lose.
Pity about Grush flipping blue, although frankly, someone like him playing that much against his meta without stating before the game "Hey guys, sorry I'm usually a waste of a slot, I'm trying to fix that..." is a bad idea. That's why we shoulda policied his ass D1.
Of course, Zeph is plausible too. Especially when he talks about me pushing townies all game, and ignores the fact that we've frequently voted for the same people.
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On September 06 2012 10:17 Zephirdd wrote:Jingle, can you explain these posts? Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 09:46 JingleHell wrote:On September 05 2012 07:41 grush57 wrote:
HMM HMM THEN WHO IS SCUM?
NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JINGLE HELL GOGOGOGOOGOGOG
Only if I have some sort of bizarre reverse GF mechanic where I think I'm town, and actually scum, and host picks someone I don't like to shoot. Seems like a bit of a stretch, IMO. Would be a pretty funny role though. Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:00 JingleHell wrote:On September 04 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:On September 04 2012 06:56 Zephirdd wrote:On September 04 2012 06:43 Mattchew wrote:
i shot kenpachi, and i think grush actually killed draz. so i think that jingle is last scum
also, i vote for 24 hour day Considering drazerk is scum, why would he shoot someone who claimed reflectability? Pretty sure austin killed him(hint of that on his previous concerns regarding the KP he took). I protected mattchew trying to heal the confirmed townies, but I guess I lost the WIFOM battle. now, we have kurumi and grush. I don't think its surprising when I say that grush is the guy that should die: he has an anti-town role, playing completely insane, and everything he has done the whole game was finger point as town players with the exception of obvlurker misder Considering that kurumi has been making much more sense, it's needless to say that I think he is town. If he is scum, then well played. And I agree with 24hr days. ##vote grush57(will bold on the voting thread) why not jingle? If you're actually crazy enough to think you understand what scum was doing this game, and that it clearly proves I'm scum, when frankly, scum are mostly dying to Vigis, then flip me and feel like an idiot. I don't care. What was scum "doing" this game? And why would you have to be some sort of crazy unaware godfather(or w/e) when you are a proven scum player?
Uhm, the whole point of the post you quoted was that we don't know. That hasn't changed.
And I'd have to be some sort of crazy unaware godfather because AFAIK, I'm town. Whether you choose to believe that or not.
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On September 07 2012 01:30 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 01:02 Mattchew wrote:
Everyone needs to say who they are voting tomorrow I am voting kurumi and not shooting You can't shoot for fuck's sake. I devolved you. Jingle, what was your motivation for using your power?
The occasions I used it? Keeping people I thought at the time were scum from doing what they wanted. Since understanding scum actions is a pure WIFOM thing anyways, it doesn't hurt to fuck with their plans. The only time I used it on a non-scum, it was on Mattchew, and we came out ahead from that one, since it killed Toad. At the time, I thought he was scum, after all.
The other two times I used it were both on Misder. No idea what the end result of that was.
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On September 07 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 03:27 Drazerk wrote:
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.
Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.
Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))
Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))
also I clearly love parentheses If it is a legit scum slip... and someone dies... there is no save... Zephir is scum. sorry guys for my dissapointing play, holidays and fighting with myself you know
Sorry, Kurumi, but this smacks of an attempt to setup the NK-invincible medic to look scummy at MYLO, rather than taking a risk with survivors at LYLO.
You know what that means.
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On September 07 2012 06:15 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 06:12 JingleHell wrote:On September 07 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:On September 04 2012 03:27 Drazerk wrote:
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.
Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.
Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))
Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))
also I clearly love parentheses If it is a legit scum slip... and someone dies... there is no save... Zephir is scum. sorry guys for my dissapointing play, holidays and fighting with myself you know Sorry, Kurumi, but this smacks of an attempt to setup the NK-invincible medic to look scummy at MYLO, rather than taking a risk with survivors at LYLO. You know what that means. So you want to lynch me or Mattchew?
I rather clearly want to lynch you.
Bearing in mind the "captured" flavor we've seen twice, we can guess there's a chance Zeph has made some good saves this game. I still don't get a scum vibe off of him, his random shit would be in the QT if he was scum, rather than the primary thread.
Tactically, consider this: We were at MYLO without an NK. MYLO and LYLO are essentially the same at this point in time.
If you're scum, here's a couple of possibilities that would make what you're doing make sense.
1: You shoot Mattchew. Which would be bizarre, but it's possible. He gets saved. Still MYLO, 2 confirmed townies.
2: Same as before, but with me, same end result.
3: You shoot Mattchew, he dies, me and Zeph are the votes required to kill you, and we have town vibes on eachother so far. Bad for you.
4: You shoot me, Mattchew is practically confirmed, Zeph wouldn't vote for himself, you die.
None of those is a desirable situation for scum. So, you go with the safer play: You try to WIFOM Zeph into being scum, so that we mislynch him, giving you the game on a silver platter. You make that immediately prior to deadline post to help push the agenda.
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On September 07 2012 06:28 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 06:26 JingleHell wrote:On September 07 2012 06:15 Kurumi wrote:On September 07 2012 06:12 JingleHell wrote:On September 07 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:On September 04 2012 03:27 Drazerk wrote:
We don't know how scum KP works austin they could split it to do exactly this. I mean its stupid and silly and requires perfect knowledge from the scum perspective but its possible.
Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks.
Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind ))
Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage)))
also I clearly love parentheses If it is a legit scum slip... and someone dies... there is no save... Zephir is scum. sorry guys for my dissapointing play, holidays and fighting with myself you know Sorry, Kurumi, but this smacks of an attempt to setup the NK-invincible medic to look scummy at MYLO, rather than taking a risk with survivors at LYLO. You know what that means. So you want to lynch me or Mattchew? I rather clearly want to lynch you. Bearing in mind the "captured" flavor we've seen twice, we can guess there's a chance Zeph has made some good saves this game. I still don't get a scum vibe off of him, his random shit would be in the QT if he was scum, rather than the primary thread. Tactically, consider this: We were at MYLO without an NK. MYLO and LYLO are essentially the same at this point in time. If you're scum, here's a couple of possibilities that would make what you're doing make sense. 1: You shoot Mattchew. Which would be bizarre, but it's possible. He gets saved. Still MYLO, 2 confirmed townies. 2: Same as before, but with me, same end result. 3: You shoot Mattchew, he dies, me and Zeph are the votes required to kill you, and we have town vibes on eachother so far. Bad for you. 4: You shoot me, Mattchew is practically confirmed, Zeph wouldn't vote for himself, you die. None of those is a desirable situation for scum. So, you go with the safer play: You try to WIFOM Zeph into being scum, so that we mislynch him, giving you the game on a silver platter. You make that immediately prior to deadline post to help push the agenda. Or I lied about wanting Zephir dead. He is bulletproof. So as long he is alive we should have a tie. But I want nice things. Like Scum Magnemite down. It's cool that you mention me for the first time ever in so important time.
Oh, I should, instead, have hedged my bets by calling every single person in the game scum at random times, rather than focusing on my targets?
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On September 07 2012 06:29 Kurumi wrote:
Also if I were scum, I'd fucking devolve everyone and get rid of Zephir, move your head.
Oh, right, because we only know about that role courtesy of it's creator, a scum. How do we know it gets rid of passive abilities?
I'm not going to argue back and forth though, that can only benefit scum at this point, I've made a rather concise and valid point, the others can decide for themselves whether to agree with me, or with your OMGUS based on "lying" to "trap" me or whatever the hell you claim to have been doing.
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On September 07 2012 07:34 Mattchew wrote:
We should lynch zeph so I can shoot jingle
Is MYLO a difficult concept? Also, you wouldn't kill me in a single shot, given I still have a .5 KP boost, and you're not very effective against me.
Why the fuck you would want to lynch Zeph to shoot me, I don't know. It's physically impossible we're both scum, and if I really seem that scummy, you should be able to sell Zeph on it to just lynch me. You're not making a ton of sense.
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We didn't get endgamed, meaning Zeph should be confirmed town? This means we REALLY shouldn't have swapped to hopeless that one day. FML. I had the right guy back then.
Voting Matt in morning.
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Meh. I've played badly as town, so I can't complain about other people's play, guess the best we can hope for is a draw.
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On September 10 2012 01:30 grush57 wrote:
Though Zeph supported JingleHell's blindness so gj zeph.
Shall we go back to one of the only semi-productive conversations you were involved in this game, where we talked about you being far too intentionally useless as a rule to listen to?
Pretty sure you agreed with such at one point.
I may have played a terrible game, but if someone (you) is either going to be a trolly town, or scum, people wanting to policy your ass, or lynch you if you start saying something besides "STARSENSES" is kind of a plausible outcome.
Hell, given the way you play, I'd imagine you'd be thrilled to have contributed to a town loss.
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On August 25 2012 06:52 grush57 wrote:
darnit idk how I entered but
when commenting on VE's play you said he wanted to play differenty and give him the benefit brohan.
Which is me questioning VE being town right now.
But all the vets aren't trying, the one who did was BC and he died, and Wiggles is playing the EXACT same way he did as scum before. When I played with WBG before and he was town he was very active, and Kenpachi could be town or scum because he is Kenpachi.
Here, as a reference. That's you implying you wanted to play differently. Shall we talk about the rest of your reads? Like say, me, hopeless...
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