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On August 25 2012 04:33 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.
1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.
2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?
Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well. 1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter. 2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking. Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it? Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too. And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless.
The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association.
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EBWOP: @misder since the majority of the focus of your jingle case is surrounding the motives and timing for his claim, and based on other earlier cases.
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On August 25 2012 04:40 JingleHell wrote:
By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them.
Im between misder and hopeless at the moment, Im having a hard time believing they are both scum but they are trying their best to both look scummish.
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On August 25 2012 04:52 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:49 Misder wrote:On August 25 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote:On August 25 2012 04:33 Misder wrote:On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.
1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.
2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?
Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well. 1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter. 2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking. On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it? Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too. And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless. The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association. No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this? I find this question funny for one reason. It implies you "thought". You managing to single-handedly take the scum team out of the frying pan and into the fire so quickly suggests the opposite. Welcome to hell.
Sorry what. If mattchew flipped, we would have his role PM. I wrote jinglehells role and can confirm he only has the one ability claimed.
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I've decided to vote hopeless because the case around hopeless seems to be based on scum motivation and pushing scum adgenda, while the case I and others have put forth about misder seems to be about his lack of posting/ bad luck timing of post/ no opinion at all. I think more scum are caught when their motivations are found and more bad townies are found through nitpicking of posts.
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Grush hasn't said anything about anything since BC died. Also, where is VE?
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On August 25 2012 05:44 Mattchew wrote:hopeless did never actually think i was scum... and he had this post about me awhile before his really long one + Show Spoiler +On August 24 2012 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:Hurray for claiming! I think Mattchew is stupid for not understanding the KP mechanics, but ultimately town. Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.
i would much much rather lynch dirk There's the crumb for his shot, or as close as I could find. I'm waiting on dirk to tell me why he thinks I'm scum I think wiggles is my lynch of choice for today, as he has got off entirely too easy following the hit on BC. He got some breathing room and he comes back with a strong defensive post but doesn't know who to vote yet, or who he suspects. He also won't go after bugs anymore even though the Day1 wagons were supposedly started by scum. ##Vote:Mr.Wiggles
Why didn't he defend you then, rather than waiting hours later, when the deadline had almost come, nothing in his defense had changed in between those two times
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On August 25 2012 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:First off, that was a gut feeling, I don't have a strong read. He's been too willing to jump ship on his own reads and doesn't follow up. He was so upset Day 1 by my ninja vote, but it's not a good reason to vote me now. Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:20 Mementoss wrote:
I've decided to vote hopeless because the case around hopeless seems to be based on scum motivation and pushing scum adgenda, while the case I and others have put forth about misder seems to be about his lack of posting/ bad luck timing of post/ no opinion at all. I think more scum are caught when their motivations are found and more bad townies are found through nitpicking of posts. I don't like this post one bit. Its too wishywashy in the reasoning. Misder was poorly timed, but my "last-minute" defense was scummy. No one has even seen fit to bring back up my ninja vote, and that was actually something scummy.
I brought it up twice in day 1, and it got buried at the speed of light both times. Until you specifically talked about it in a later post.
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On August 25 2012 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Hopeless
I'm here.
Why are so many "vets" doing this type of posting this game
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On August 25 2012 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:49 Mementoss wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:First off, that was a gut feeling, I don't have a strong read. He's been too willing to jump ship on his own reads and doesn't follow up. He was so upset Day 1 by my ninja vote, but it's not a good reason to vote me now. On August 25 2012 05:20 Mementoss wrote:
I've decided to vote hopeless because the case around hopeless seems to be based on scum motivation and pushing scum adgenda, while the case I and others have put forth about misder seems to be about his lack of posting/ bad luck timing of post/ no opinion at all. I think more scum are caught when their motivations are found and more bad townies are found through nitpicking of posts. I don't like this post one bit. Its too wishywashy in the reasoning. Misder was poorly timed, but my "last-minute" defense was scummy. No one has even seen fit to bring back up my ninja vote, and that was actually something scummy. I brought it up twice in day 1, and it got buried at the speed of light both times. Until you specifically talked about it in a later post. You brought it up when no one wanted to look at me. Now that I'm about to die, wouldn't it have been a great time to say LOOK I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!
I don't care about being right I care about killing scum to win the game.
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On August 25 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I swear to read the thread and post thoughts this cycle guys.
Ugh, worst town performance ever I'm afraid. Vigis just have to shoot JingleHell, Mementoss and Biosc.
Care to expand on this?
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On August 25 2012 07:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 07:07 Mattchew wrote:
hey VE
why do you join games if you don't intend to play them?
What I mean is - one-liners aren't, strictly speaking, "playing" the game. They're like...active observing. It's getting really fucking old and I'd really like a reason to not vote you *glare*
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glare_(move)
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Use bulbapedia noob
You claimed either ekans or arbok, you are therefore team rocket
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yup
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Do you think WBG was a mafia kill? Cause I doubt heist was, unless there was some sexy medic actions last night.
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On August 26 2012 06:16 Kurumi wrote:Good shot mate
So dirk is grass/electric/ground/dragon
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On August 26 2012 07:54 HiroPro wrote:
k we kill wiggles. he's not playing this game.
##Vote Mr. Wiggles
Your pretty useless this game, do you usually play like this I don't remember.
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Also, I think JingleHell should be claiming who he targeted after every single night.
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On August 26 2012 12:01 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Misder
Kill him with fire also Dirk nice zodiac list Mr.Wiggles will reveal more. Plus 100% scum meta. ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles
lynching scum >> lynching for info
.. no?
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On August 26 2012 12:40 HiroPro wrote:
Yo mementoss if you think wiggles is town, use his posting to say why, not the BC hit/connection stuff.
He left his vote uselessly on VE even though VE had like no chance of being lynched. He never even mentioned what he thought of dirk or allin. He considered meowth guaranteed scum but he still just left his vote on VE. He won't answer my question on why he would do that.
He has basically stopped posting altogether now.
That's scum play, especially for someone of his caliber.
I never said I thought he was town I was questioning grush's reasoning for voting him
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EPT
