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On August 25 2012 03:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'll post a last will before I die I guess. Fucking silly wagon. Absolutely retarded. There is no case on me. This is entirely based on the timing of my defense. How was there enough time to get ME lynched but not get people off of Mattchew?
We don't know that there was, now do we? Also, your "I'm going to die" thoughts being "go fuck yourselves" sounds a lot scummier than someone who knows they'll flip blue leaving some food for thought after they do so.
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Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.
1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.
2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?
Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well.
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If my votecount is correct, Mattchew is at 6, Hopeless and Misder are both at 4. I'll shift to Misder if needed to prevent a Mattchew lynch at this point.
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On August 25 2012 04:26 heist wrote:
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?
Because an eleventh hour defense of someone who has an overwhelming landslide of votes on them is suspicious. The only legitimate reason to "try" so late to save someone is to look good after a mislynch, for being the lone beacon of truth in the deluded town, oh, by the way, let's lynch X, Y, or Z, for leading the mislynch!
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On August 25 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:26 Mattchew wrote:On August 25 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 25 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
would a med saved person be alerted they were saved?
and would someone be alerted they were shot, even if they are a vet
and wiggles why has no one claimed the hit on toad then? What are you talking about? I am talking about me being pikachu and shooting toad. If it wasn't me, why has no one claimed it. I didn't say it wasn't you, I said that at the time that Jingle claimed, there was no indication that it was you, and thus no pressure on him to claim. His claim didn't come out of pressure, it came out of wanting to clear up confusion, a town motivation. Also, in a theoretical world where it wasn't you who killed toad, they probably wouldn't claim for the same wrong reasons 90% of people don't claim their vig shots.
Yeah. As town, lynching for the wrong reason is bad. If I'd have not claimed there, it would have been as bad as if I'd fakeclaimed a DT role to try and force a lynch through on him.
If you're on the right guy, it should be evident. If you're unsure (which you usually should be) you should be willing to consider evidence to the contrary, even if it means your entire case may fall apart later.
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Anyone else think it's just strengthening that correlation I noticed between Misder, Hopeless, and possibly Grush as well that Misder is rapidly approaching double his previous postcount ever since I accused Hopeless? Especially since he's sounding slightly insane?
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By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them.
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On August 25 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:40 JingleHell wrote:
By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them. Im between misder and hopeless at the moment, Im having a hard time believing they are both scum but they are trying their best to both look scummish.
Consider Misder's timing of suddenly showing up. Almost like he was in the QT, and came to his buddy's defense. Although I think if I switch, it kills Misder, so hey, I will if I need to.
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On August 25 2012 04:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
No Kurumi I'm Scum, remember? Look at me look at me !!
Well, your attempt to look sarcastic aside, Misder only looks truly scummy right now because he suddenly showed up when attention shifted to you. Almost like he suddenly cared about the lynch.
Otherwise he'd only look about 85%, instead of 97%.
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On August 25 2012 04:49 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote:On August 25 2012 04:33 Misder wrote:On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.
1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.
2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?
Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well. 1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter. 2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking. On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it? Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too. And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless. The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association. No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this?
I find this question funny for one reason. It implies you "thought". You managing to single-handedly take the scum team out of the frying pan and into the fire so quickly suggests the opposite.
Welcome to hell.
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On August 25 2012 04:54 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:52 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 04:49 Misder wrote:On August 25 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote:On August 25 2012 04:33 Misder wrote:On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.
1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.
2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?
Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well. 1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter. 2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking. On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it? Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too. And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless. The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association. No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this? I find this question funny for one reason. It implies you "thought". You managing to single-handedly take the scum team out of the frying pan and into the fire so quickly suggests the opposite. Welcome to hell. Sorry what. If mattchew flipped, we would have his role PM. I wrote jinglehells role and can confirm he only has the one ability claimed.
Clearly you, myself, and Mattchew are the remaining scum, roleplaying Team Rocket from the original show, with our utterly inane plot that's destined to failure!
I think we cut it too close though.
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Ok, with heist, I'm pretty sure we're safely on Hopeless, although 2 Mattchew votes could change that, or an unvote off of Hopeless onto either Mattchew or Misder.
This is NOT an official count, however.
Can we get an official votecount please?
Of course, at this point, a sudden shift of the vote onto anyone who isn't scum would be scumclaims, so we should be doing good now.
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On August 25 2012 05:20 Mementoss wrote:
I've decided to vote hopeless because the case around hopeless seems to be based on scum motivation and pushing scum adgenda, while the case I and others have put forth about misder seems to be about his lack of posting/ bad luck timing of post/ no opinion at all. I think more scum are caught when their motivations are found and more bad townies are found through nitpicking of posts.
Much as I mostly agree, I think if town vigi KP go to Misder and Grush following the lynch, we have solid odds of being rid of Team Rocket by morning.
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EBWOP: But I still find Hopeless to be the top lynch candidate, before anyone tries to read between the lines absurdly on what I just said.
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On August 25 2012 05:25 Mementoss wrote:
Grush hasn't said anything about anything since BC died. Also, where is VE?
My point about Grush actually trying to do something besides troll still stands, I think. Especially with the cute little excessive interest between the three of them.
I mean come on. Would anyone who wasn't on a scumteam with Grush actually be concerned about the possibility of a temp ban resulting in a modkill, even if they don't consider his uselessness to be worthy of a policy lynch?
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If you're going to tell us you think Mementoss is scum, as a "I'm going to die so consider this stuff" post, giving us reasons you think that would probably be a good idea. Unless, of course, you know we're going to ignore everything you've said after you flip. In which case this would be an effort to try and save yourself by doing something that looks pro-town.
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FML. Right reason, wrong target.
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On August 25 2012 06:43 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote:On August 25 2012 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I swear to read the thread and post thoughts this cycle guys.
Ugh, worst town performance ever I'm afraid. Vigis just have to shoot JingleHell, Mementoss and Biosc. Care to expand on this?
I'd love to see it myself.
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On August 25 2012 06:48 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 06:43 Mementoss wrote:On August 25 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote:On August 25 2012 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I swear to read the thread and post thoughts this cycle guys.
Ugh, worst town performance ever I'm afraid. Vigis just have to shoot JingleHell, Mementoss and Biosc. Care to expand on this? nvm I reread. Prolly wiggles instead of you.
You are, in fact, aware that the person you wanted to sheep on, as far as "cases" against me are concerned, has recently accused me of being scum because I waited until after the day post to vote Mattchew, yes?
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On August 25 2012 06:49 grush57 wrote:
Jingle, you don't answer to any of the cases against you, you keep bandwagoning on the townies!!!!!!!!!!!
You call me scum because I'm actually playing this time?!?!?!?1?!!??!?1?1?1!/1?1?1!?1?1
However when commenting on VE'
Yes. When you're town, you refuse to play. Instead, you troll. I assume that playing scum appeals to your trollish, annoying nature, thus, you actually play.
And if I've missed a case made by a person with a functioning brain stem, I truly apologize for not answering it. Please enlighten me as to where it is, and I'll respond.
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