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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 19:29 GMT
#630
To be honest, I'm shocked at how little attention that Axero is getting. He's laying low and has demonstrated some clear anti-town behavior. Some players have mentioned having suspicions of him, but no one has so much as FOS'd him.

Go with me a bit here:
If Axero was town, wouldn't he be a REALLY EASY MISLYNCH FOR MAFIA? Why has NO ONE voted for him? I'm inclined to think that his mafia buddies are covering for him!
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 19:34 GMT
#632
Yeah, I'll take your word for it. lol.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 19:45 GMT
#638
On August 11 2012 04:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:29 Hapahauli wrote:
To be honest, I'm shocked at how little attention that Axero is getting. He's laying low and has demonstrated some clear anti-town behavior. Some players have mentioned having suspicions of him, but no one has so much as FOS'd him.

Go with me a bit here:
If Axero was town, wouldn't he be a REALLY EASY MISLYNCH FOR MAFIA? Why has NO ONE voted for him? I'm inclined to think that his mafia buddies are covering for him!

Your so called case on axerro boils down to one line to me.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 09:56 Axero wrote:

Haha, no I wasn't planning on lurking. I was actually going to go ahead with my plans without checking the forum at all, but someone coaching me suggested i still check.


What? What about the rest of my case?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=29#565

What about the rest of that isn't valid?

You have to think of like this if he is mafia his plan was to refrence coaching as a means for his defense. I find this unlikely. I am more inclined to believe that this statement was truth and if he was away there was only one way he would recieve notification from a coach. He was pm'ed and i think this statement
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On August 10 2012 10:03 Axero wrote:
My friend who introduced me to mafia told me


after he received another pm after being scolded for refrencing coaching. Thats what determines it for me.


There's nothing in the rules against referencing coaching. I confirmed this with one of the hosts this game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:00 GMT
#646
On August 11 2012 04:58 Axero wrote:
@Sideni
I don't really care if people vote for me or not, go for it if you feel its your best move.

I'm still going to be looking at other people, and at the moment mkfuba07 is one of the ones standing out the most to me.


What about Lvdr? Did you have your vote on him?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#648
On August 11 2012 05:02 Axero wrote:
I do at the moment, but I'm starting to reconsider. At the end of the day if discussion on mkfuba07 doesnt start between everyone, my one vote isn't going to mean anything if I decide to change. The only way townies have power is together.


This is majority lynch. Every vote counts - especially since we have to secure 7 votes on one player by the end of the day.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:12 GMT
#651
Given the rest of his play so far, I consider it a null tell. He has a well-written case on Lvdr on the table as well as a vote. I'm not a fan of his relative silence, but I don't consider it all that suspicious given his standing case on Lvdr.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:15 GMT
#654
On August 11 2012 05:14 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On August 11 2012 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Given the rest of his play so far, I consider it a null tell. He has a well-written case on Lvdr on the table as well as a vote. I'm not a fan of his relative silence, but I don't consider it all that suspicious given his standing case on Lvdr.

So if Axero just voted on you instead of FoS'ing you, and then went afk for the rest of day 1, you wouldn't have a problem with him?


How the hell did you go and reason that one? If Axero managed to write a decent case on me and vote me, I wouldn't be suspicious of him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:21 GMT
#657
I have four points on him, only one of which relies on his suspicions on me. As it stands, he still lurked until he was called out, he's been pushing idle suspicions, sheeped on the Lvdr vote, and used newbiness as an excuse not to do analysis.

Hell he pretty clearly hasn't been reading the thread and has been pushing uninformed points. You take a lot of contention with this with Sideni, but for some reason, you ignore all the instances that Axero does:

1) Axero calls the interaction between me and YourHarry some sort of "bussing" strategy when its clear that no suspicions were flying between us.
2) Axero thought I was getting married (just like Sideni)
3) Axero has openly admitted not reading the thread.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:25 GMT
#661
And exactly what am I missing here? Show me how I'm taking you out of context?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:25 GMT
#662
EBWOP: Last bit was @ Axero
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#663
Also, Rabblerabblerabble VOTECOUNT PLZ rabblerabblerabble =)
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:35 GMT
#668
On August 11 2012 05:29 Axero wrote:
Kind of like you just did?

@ Hapa

1) Since when did bad logic = scum?
2) Mistake on fluff = scum?
3) Context tends to help.

You dwell so bad.


1) Bad logic in context of scummy play is scummy. Again, you reference bussing in the conversation between me and YourHarry when there was nothing involving suspicion. You didn't read the conversation and casted idle suspicion - that's scummy.

2) That's more to point out to Dandel Ion how he's holding you to different standards than Sideni

3)
On August 10 2012 09:44 Axero wrote:
Since the game started and I didn't know I'd be in it I had previous plans. I've been checking the thread and still trying to feel people out, but since nothing really had anything to do with me personally, I haven't replied. (Not the best play, but again, first game )

...

Haha, no I wasn't planning on lurking. I was actually going to go ahead with my plans without checking the forum at all, but someone coaching me suggested i still check.


Context. Okay, perhaps "openly admitting not reading" was severe, but anti-town mentality is still on display here. Not wanting to discuss, and planning not to check the forum at all? You've commented on this, so I won't dwell on it longer - I just don't find your explanation sufficient.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:38 GMT
#670
On August 11 2012 05:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 05:33 Axero wrote:
EBWOP:

@ Hapa

If I were scum, how would it benefit me to fos you? Surely there's easier people to go after that wouldn't bring so much attention to myself.

Get that wifom shit out of here. I know almost everthing can be wifom but come on.


Funny thing is, ge isn't "going after" me. He's just casting idle "gut-feeling" suspicion on me.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:41 GMT
#673
typotypotypo =(
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:46 GMT
#679
@ YourHarry

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=29#580
I replied to it here. I highly doubt your case will get any traction given the standing cases on Sideni and Lvdr - consider switching your vote at this point.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:49 GMT
#680
Also, ##Unvote Axero

His "ragequit" for the night gives me a bad-townie read. I still find his actions slightly scummy, but given that no one's following me on his lynch, and that we need 7 for a majority lynch (prplhz said 6, but I think he got this wrong), I'll most likely switch my vote toward one of the more popular candidates.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:51 GMT
#683
The two prominant cases at the moment are Lvdr and Sideni, and I'll make my final thoughts known on both candidates before I cast my vote. They are both bad-townie reads to me, but it seems the only option to me to chose one and avoid a town no-lynch at all costs.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#693
On August 11 2012 05:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 05:55 iamperfection wrote:
oh there we go i think were right dandel ion

Meh I post it, Hapahauli unvotes.
Yours is the current


Yeah sorry for the snipe timing =P
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 21:06 GMT
#702
On August 11 2012 06:04 Sideni wrote:
Reading through Mkfuba's filter. Please, someone, help me build a case for him ...
I really don't know who to vote for anymore =/


Help you build a case for a player who's not suspicious? No thanks.

##Vote Sideni
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 10 2012 21:13 GMT
#714
Uhhh VE...

It takes #/2 rounded up votes to lynch somebody. In case of a tie, the person who got there first gets the prize.


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