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Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#1001
For the record: I find Hapa-as-scum EXTREMELY unlikely. However, given that our lynch is already decided I wanted to think about what might happen in the future. This case exists without the information that will become available in the next few days.

Other than wild, several days in advance cases, there doesn't seem to be much to do until prome gets lynched.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 12 2012 20:47 GMT
#1002
@Hapa what do you think of the possibility that shady is town and one of the confirmed town is scum?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 12 2012 20:49 GMT
#1003
@hapa Or, What would you do if shady and prome BOTH flip green.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 12 2012 20:51 GMT
#1004
Well I think Shady is scum. I don't want to speculate about what "confirmed townies" could be mafia until I see Promethelax flip in 26 hours.

Speaking of Shady Sands, I found this post interesting...
On August 12 2012 09:18 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Well here's the deal - killing Kronen was a HUUUUUUGE risk given our confirmed townie pool. Of ShadySands, YourHarry, and mkfuba07, one of them being scum, who could get away with killing Kronen?

The answer is ShadySands. He's the only guy without serious suspicion on him.

Let me go back here:

1) Part of me doubts that Promethelax (as hypothetical mafia) would so willingly exonerate a non-confirmed townie by including him in a list with two almost-confirmed townies (me and Dandel Ion). Given Shady's instant FOS against Promethelax after I posted my suspicions, Promethelax could have name-dropped Shady in order to get him as far through the game as possible, "confirming" his scumbuddy as townie. I consider this not likely, but possible


I now consider this THE MOST POSSIBLE and my leading theory.

ShadySands and Promethelax scumteam.


Please explain your logic here. How does a nightkill on Kronen have anything to do with me having less suspicion on myself than mkfuba and YourHarry? Wouldn't this make a bit more sense for a scum to do if that scum was on your confirmed townie list?


Hmmm... perhaps this was the goal of the NK?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 12 2012 20:54 GMT
#1005
Also:

On August 12 2012 09:45 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:29 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:23 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Howabout this Shady - find me someone on my "confirmed townie list" that I should suspect over you.


So you're going to push a lynch on me unless I accuse someone with towncred?


Well you suggested that the 3rd scum could be on my "confirmed townie list," and right now, I have no reason to suspect anyone on that list over you. I will push a lynch against you unless you can convince me otherwise.


I don't have anyone. But it's not my obligation to come up with a counterlynch if I'm to defend myself from a lynch--that's how OMGUS wars start, and given that I'm already on a suspicion list, why would I help scum by doing that? I simply stated that your logic doesn't make sense, and I'm asking you to come up with a better explanation.

Here's the thing--if I'm on the shortlist with Kronen, mkfuba, and YourHarry, why would I make that list even shorter? Your assumption rests on your belief that no one has suspicion on me, which is flat out disproven by numerous posts in the thread itself. So what's your logic?


Process of elimination. Of the three people; ShadySands, Mkfuba, and YourHarry, you're the only one that makes sense. I'll build a case on you tomorrow morning. I have no reason to suspect anyone out of those three people in the game.

If you give me a reason to suspect someone else - I'm willing to listen. You seem to be strongly indicating that someone on the confirmed townie list is mafia. TELL ME WHO. If you're not willing to scumhunt, please sit quietly and get lynched.


Please explain to me how me coming in with a random accusation on someone with a lot of towncred qualifies as scumhunting. Hint: it's not.

Pressuring me this way only makes it more, not less, likely that whatever case I come up with is hasty and half-baked, and less usable as a result.

Prome is still my top scum read at the moment. I'm checking through the confirmed townie posts and will get back with analysis tomorrow morning.


... well where's the analysis?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 12 2012 20:54 GMT
#1006
For the record: I find Hapa-as-scum EXTREMELY unlikely. However, given that our lynch is already decided I wanted to think about what might happen in the future. This case exists without the information that will become available in the next few days.

Other than wild, several days in advance cases, there doesn't seem to be much to do until prome gets lynched.
Agreed, Lvdr. That being said, I don't want to post my concerns yet, just to have the scumteam NK everyone but who we're suspicious of. Two days (enough time for our suspicions of Shady and Prome to be tested) is also two NKs, and I don't want the people I think may be scum to be the only ones I'm stuck with at the end. I hope that was clear, it's difficult logic to explain.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2012 22:10 GMT
#1007
On August 13 2012 03:50 Sideni wrote:
EBWOP : Admins and mods, when you say that Kronen was a VT does it mean he was the veteran or a vanilla townie ?

Kronen was a regular vanilla townie with no special role.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2012 22:35 GMT
#1008
Shady Sands is replacing out.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#1009
On August 13 2012 07:35 prplhz wrote:
Shady Sands is replacing out.

oh god.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 12 2012 22:40 GMT
#1010
An interesting development...
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 12 2012 22:41 GMT
#1011
My last two games dont give me any help in the decesion here.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 12 2012 22:42 GMT
#1012
ebwop i have seen both town and scum quit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 12 2012 22:44 GMT
#1013
It's a null tell for sure.

Though it's kinda bad for us - we're never going to get Shady's response to the suspicions around him. It's not like his replacement will be able to defend the actions of the predecessor.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 12 2012 22:53 GMT
#1014
On August 13 2012 07:35 prplhz wrote:
Shady Sands is replacing out.

Does that imply you have someone ready to replace him or is a modkill possible?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
August 12 2012 22:59 GMT
#1015
Hahaha. This is so exciting. Let me double check a couple of things.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
August 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1016
So I guess Promo is scum for sure. LOL. But it's too obvious. I think scums realize what is going on now, especially since Dandel Ion requested medic protection on Sideni. We should openly talk about it. Yes?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
August 12 2012 23:18 GMT
#1017
And then the last scum must be among the following:

Shady
mkfuba
iamperfection

Can anyone else really be scum?
Never!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 12 2012 23:18 GMT
#1018
On August 13 2012 08:13 YourHarry wrote:
So I guess Promo is scum for sure. LOL. But it's too obvious. I think scums realize what is going on now, especially since Dandel Ion requested medic protection on Sideni. We should openly talk about it. Yes?


Let's save it for the night.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Sideni
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada79 Posts
August 12 2012 23:24 GMT
#1019
Can't talk too much about what I have in mind =/

@Shady Sands' replacer - I have good reasons to think that you can be a scum. I want you to tell me your role ! IF YOU DON'T or if you hesitate, I'm going to assume that you're mafia. If you're town, there's no problem, it's just going to help town ! Believe me.

Still going to reveal my strategy after Night 2.
May the force be with you
Sideni
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada79 Posts
August 12 2012 23:25 GMT
#1020
Poor replacer, he gets in the game and already get some pressure !
He didn't get a sweet position xD
May the force be with you
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