GK didn't post a lot in XXII, but when he did, he made long posts with good analysis. I'm not that worried yet, but if he still doesn't get us something by 8-10 hours before the lynch deadline then that would be weird. If that's the case, then I'd be willing to push for a lynch, if no other candidates have emerged yet.

coming immediately AFTER a long set of analysis by GK.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:14 GMT

#756

On August 11 2012 07:12 Kronen wrote:
FoS Lvdr, Axero, Dandel.

If I had to vote now, it'd be Lvdr.

LoD Sideni

@Sideni: (that's for Look of Disapproval by the by) Caaaaaaalm down! Deep cleansing breath.

I'm here for the vote and beyond... cogitating thoughts...

Can we get some reasoning?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:22 GMT

#760

To my eyes, GK, mkfuba, Kronen, Shady have been the least active, with Axero just being worthless.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:26 GMT

#767

YH has also been conspicuously absent recently.

on Prome:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=32#624
I find this to be a high quality post. Slight townie read.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:31 GMT

#771

My lynch list would be: GK, Kronen, Axero

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:33 GMT

#775

Aight I've been waiting to shower for a while now.

##Vote goodkarma

For lurkiness reasons and because I think Sideni is Bad-Town. Also No-lynch seems like it would be a disaster.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:35 GMT

#779

Oh god Kronen thinks Sideni's case was good. I really need my own face brick...

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:38 GMT

#785

GK will be null lynch. If something crazy happens in the next 15 minutes I think we can handle it.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:43 GMT

#792

3 Cheers for Sideni being useful.

At this point I think we shouldn't shift off of GK. I find Shady and Kronen coming in so late quite suspicious though. Whatever cases they make, it will be almost impossible to really evaluate them before the time limit.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 22:43 GMT

#793

By my count we have 11 minutes.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 23:14 GMT

#815

Wow. Wow. Hapa I bow before you.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 23:20 GMT

#819

Axero qualifies as too stupid to live. I can deal with it.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 23:28 GMT

#823

Oh illustrious mod do not strike me down with your mod-lightning!

I promise to refrain from cheap shots in the future.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 10 2012 23:34 GMT

#826

I'm on my phone, so I cannot start a real case, but shady will be my first target tomorrow. His vote looks pretty suspicious right now.

Anyways, I am out for now. Gj town, we really pulled it together in the last bit of the day.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 11 2012 18:37 GMT

#907

Good morning town! That was one crazy D1.. Before I get to any content, I want to point out this unbelievable read by Hapa

Either way, my gut feeling says GoodKarma - his play has been way too clean. Suspiciously clean in a pretty batshit crazy Day 1.

Legit.

Anyways I have some evidence about Shady to put forward.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=40#799
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=41#802
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=41#802

I find these 3 posts show shady to be trying desperately to shift suspicion away from GK.

I think the town strategy was extremely clear: Sideni and Axero were looking more and more like guaranteed mislynches, while GK was (as Dandel put it) the 'safe lynch.'
Clearly it was a move AWAY from mislynching
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=37#733
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=37#739
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=38#746

If I was mafia there is no way GK would have been my #1 lurker: there were plenty of other options. Therefore busing seems quite farfetched.

It is also interesting that pointed suspicion to me, someone who already had plenty of suspicion cast on him, instead of Hapa who was unlynchable d1 and would have been the person to actually put responsibility on should the lynch have gone badly.

Just as bad town play has to be accounted for, seeing the godfather in danger this could be bad mafia play.

After the flip, Shady obliges by providing supplementary cases on Prome and Kronen. He has to do this because they are the primary suspects right now and he must show willingness to help whether he's town or mafia, or he will be up for serious suspicion D2.

On review, the part after the flip is very WIFOM, and not as strong as I expected. However if the scumteam doesn't turn out to be Prome/Kronen/mkfuba it could be Shady/YH or another nonconfirmed townie. This could be useful later, but I think it needs to go on the back burner.

EDIT WHILE WRITING: Wow prome's post looks like scum. Shady looks pretty clean given the suspicion prome is putting on him.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 11 2012 18:41 GMT

#908

@Prome: Please answer these questions regarding Hapa busing.

1. Why was the godfather bused instead of a goon?
2. Why was the strategy to bus instead of taking out Sideni/Axero with a easily disguiseable mislynch?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 11 2012 20:17 GMT

#913

I feel like the end of my post wasn't well thought through. I want to cast suspicion on shady without trying to place him with a partner. I will hash out some more thoughts tonight, as well as take a close look at the other suspects.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 11 2012 20:58 GMT

#915

Is it a good idea to openly discuss blue role strategy?

@yh I haven't had any coaching this game. Just trying to build on what I learned day0.5

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 11 2012 20:59 GMT

#916

@yh why is iamperfection equally suspicious with prome?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 12 2012 00:23 GMT

#959

Prome has to be red. His bus claim makes no sense from a town perspective because of his incoming lynch. A wild claim like that (impossible for a townie to have more than a read) followed by a green flip would throw the whole town into chaos. The proper defense for a townie would be to explain your actions and reasoning, not come up with an incredibly unlikely counter accusation.