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@ Lvdr - Regarding me "bussing" GK - there was a very similar sentiment going on in my first game on TL; Newbie Mafia XX. In that game, I built a case on the Mafia RoleCop, got him lynched, and then several townies started discussing the possibility of me bussing my "teammate." Obviously I was a townie in that game, and I want to quell these suspiciosns (which the host's post-game notes called "strange" and "insane") before they start.
Regarding GK being "inactive -
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=34#667
GoodKarma's last post was 1.5 hours before the lynch deadline. GK is lurky, but certainly not inactive.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359489#13
Look at GoodKarma's /in post in Newbie XXIV - posted 1.5 hours after he gets lynched. He's clearly active.
Also, for me to bus GK is one thing, but for GK to agree to it is another. This is what makes this situation implausible.
Regarding me "tunneling" ShadySands - This is wrong.
I was heavily questioning mkfuba earlier in the night until I saw the NK. Then I switched to Shady Sands. As it stands, Shady Sands has not defended himself yet! Why would I move my suspicions off him? It's been less than a day.
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Also, regarding me being "relentless" - that's what I do as a townie.
I tunneled you until I thought you were town. Then I tunneled iamperfection until I thought he was town. Then Axero. Then Promethelax (who basically proved himself to be mafia... lol). Then mkfuba. And now Shady Sands, who has yet to prove himself town.
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Well I think Shady is scum. I don't want to speculate about what "confirmed townies" could be mafia until I see Promethelax flip in 26 hours.
Speaking of Shady Sands, I found this post interesting...
On August 12 2012 09:18 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:Well here's the deal - killing Kronen was a HUUUUUUGE risk given our confirmed townie pool. Of ShadySands, YourHarry, and mkfuba07, one of them being scum, who could get away with killing Kronen? The answer is ShadySands. He's the only guy without serious suspicion on him. Let me go back here: 1) Part of me doubts that Promethelax (as hypothetical mafia) would so willingly exonerate a non-confirmed townie by including him in a list with two almost-confirmed townies (me and Dandel Ion). Given Shady's instant FOS against Promethelax after I posted my suspicions, Promethelax could have name-dropped Shady in order to get him as far through the game as possible, "confirming" his scumbuddy as townie. I consider this not likely, but possible I now consider this THE MOST POSSIBLE and my leading theory. ShadySands and Promethelax scumteam. Please explain your logic here. How does a nightkill on Kronen have anything to do with me having less suspicion on myself than mkfuba and YourHarry? Wouldn't this make a bit more sense for a scum to do if that scum was on your confirmed townie list?
Hmmm... perhaps this was the goal of the NK?
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Also:
On August 12 2012 09:45 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 09:37 Hapahauli wrote:On August 12 2012 09:29 Shady Sands wrote:On August 12 2012 09:24 Hapahauli wrote:On August 12 2012 09:23 Shady Sands wrote:On August 12 2012 09:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Howabout this Shady - find me someone on my "confirmed townie list" that I should suspect over you. So you're going to push a lynch on me unless I accuse someone with towncred? Well you suggested that the 3rd scum could be on my "confirmed townie list," and right now, I have no reason to suspect anyone on that list over you. I will push a lynch against you unless you can convince me otherwise. I don't have anyone. But it's not my obligation to come up with a counterlynch if I'm to defend myself from a lynch--that's how OMGUS wars start, and given that I'm already on a suspicion list, why would I help scum by doing that? I simply stated that your logic doesn't make sense, and I'm asking you to come up with a better explanation. Here's the thing--if I'm on the shortlist with Kronen, mkfuba, and YourHarry, why would I make that list even shorter? Your assumption rests on your belief that no one has suspicion on me, which is flat out disproven by numerous posts in the thread itself. So what's your logic? Process of elimination. Of the three people; ShadySands, Mkfuba, and YourHarry, you're the only one that makes sense. I'll build a case on you tomorrow morning. I have no reason to suspect anyone out of those three people in the game. If you give me a reason to suspect someone else - I'm willing to listen. You seem to be strongly indicating that someone on the confirmed townie list is mafia. TELL ME WHO. If you're not willing to scumhunt, please sit quietly and get lynched. Please explain to me how me coming in with a random accusation on someone with a lot of towncred qualifies as scumhunting. Hint: it's not. Pressuring me this way only makes it more, not less, likely that whatever case I come up with is hasty and half-baked, and less usable as a result. Prome is still my top scum read at the moment. I'm checking through the confirmed townie posts and will get back with analysis tomorrow morning.
... well where's the analysis?
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An interesting development...
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It's a null tell for sure.
Though it's kinda bad for us - we're never going to get Shady's response to the suspicions around him. It's not like his replacement will be able to defend the actions of the predecessor.
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On August 13 2012 08:13 YourHarry wrote:
So I guess Promo is scum for sure. LOL. But it's too obvious. I think scums realize what is going on now, especially since Dandel Ion requested medic protection on Sideni. We should openly talk about it. Yes?
Let's save it for the night.
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On August 13 2012 08:37 YourHarry wrote:
Medic, do not counter claim. Promo is mafia.
Yep. YourHarry's got it.
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On August 13 2012 08:36 Promethelax wrote:
Sorry I have been less active. I honestly hate the way Hapa plays and don't have fun playing with him.
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T_T
I hope you don't think so in the post game <3
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Yeah those things can be WIFOM mind bombs - careful there YH
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Uhhh... YourHarry was joking.
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On August 13 2012 09:02 YourHarry wrote:No I am! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HOVl5.gif)
Hahahah that gif is gold
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Oh, Promethelax is mafia trying to fake-claim medic, in hopes that the real medic will role-claim.
Or something like that.
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That's what I think too - just waiting for the Promethelax flip at this point.
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Can we get a Votecount?
Curious to see if anyone hasn't voted yet.
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Only 6 more hours 'till he flips red I suppose. TBH, I will take a brick to the face if he flips green in light of his recent posting =/
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EPT
