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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 16 2012 01:33 GMT
#23
/in
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 16 2012 05:42 GMT
#31
On July 16 2012 12:23 gonzaw wrote:
:O


Well, at least I guess the spoilers aren't that "shocking" (one guy being fired or a chick getting pregnant or a guy making a deal or whatever the "spoilers" are for this series doesn't seem as shocking as, let's say, a main protagonist getting beheaded and a bunch of people dying or something) so it won't really matter.


Don Draper dies at the end of season 1 episode 5.

You heard it here first
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 22:50:21
July 16 2012 22:49 GMT
#36
No really he actually does die

E: although the episode # was me trolling
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 02 2012 05:55 GMT
#188
I like your quote BC baby baby baby
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 02:32 GMT
#247
I'm town.

for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 11:47 GMT
#273
On August 03 2012 11:41 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:39 JingleHell wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:37 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm town.

for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick.


lets start this game right

## VOTE: WBG


We don't even have much discussion yet, but you still ignored it. Why?


I am just used to wbg being dead all the time in dota and dont wanna adjust


I am just used to you being bad, so I suppose I shouldn't let my expectations run too high.

That's probably why they gave me the big room and you got the one with the pillar in it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 11:50 GMT
#275
before I forget, I got masoned by VE.

I'm not a mason. I'm Roger Sterling. You guys should know that by now, but then again I don't remember why I hired some of you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 11:53 GMT
#277
On August 03 2012 20:50 Erandorr wrote:
he also hurt my feelings and made me cry. can we kill him?


no worries, I'll be scum when you have feelings worth considering
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#281
On August 03 2012 20:54 Erandorr wrote:
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On August 03 2012 20:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 03 2012 20:50 Erandorr wrote:
he also hurt my feelings and made me cry. can we kill him?


no worries, I'll be scum when you have feelings worth considering


any reason why you would out VE as mason this early? I mean thats kind of retarded.


Pot calling the kettle black...

Let me break this down into simpler terms for you (and I thought that wasn't possible!)

1. Being a mason isn't alignment indicative (therefore outting a mason is rather worthless)

2. The playerbase of this game will not understand stuff unless it's obviously stated.

3. If we are both town then mafia will strongly consider shooting one of us. Which means that we will make good protects. Which means that it potentially forces mafia to shoot suboptimally.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 12:48 GMT
#289
Erandorr just masoned me. Dunno if he's scum or just dumb though.

Also I didn't ask either of them before outting them.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 15:20 GMT
#335
Gotta love 8:30 vision appointments.

For anyone who doesn't know, from my perspective Erandor and VE share two important traits:

One, they both call me scum in every game without fail regardless of their own alignments.

Two, they're both awful as town.

Right now I lean toward Erandor being terrible, since I don't think as scum he'd stop being lazy long enough to form a coherent sentence.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 03 2012 23:52 GMT
#445
Let's kill grush. As long as he trolls he's a detriment and certainly the only thing he actually does as scum is troll. Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game, just as he wasn't in LV.

I would strongly suggest to anyone who gets masoned to out the person who masoned them from now on. If both Eran and VE are town then the likelihood of a third mason being town is incredibly low. Thus if there is a scum mason they'd be unlikely to use it (win for us). I'm pretty sure both VE and Eran are town (for now). In particular Eran is almost certainly town because he really wants me to prove I'm town (encouraging me to get on skype, for example) something I don't think he'd do as scum. Anyone voting for him right now (Jingle) needs to also read his posts. Some of the logic might be bad but that doesn't make Eran scum.

##vote grush57
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 00:00 GMT
#450
Your basic assumption that outing masons in this game is antitown is flawed. I already pointed that out when...oh, I dunno, I called you bad several times for thinking it.

If you out masons then you pressure them. Zephirdd was 100% correct on why I did it (and if he's scum that was a pretty brilliant play by him). The goal is to distinguish the town masons from the scum masons via their handing of the pressure.

Also it has the side effect of scaring mafia masons into potentially not using their roles if they fear they will instantly be outted and put in a small pool of players for scrutiny.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 00:17 GMT
#453
On August 04 2012 09:04 Erandorr wrote:
Nvm read your convenient pm <3


If you want to continue tunneling me, go ahead and waste your time. I'll be in my office drinking my milk.

Otherwise help me get rid of that grush fool who hasn't learned yet that his place is in the elevator and not the accounts department.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 08:45 GMT
#468
On August 04 2012 12:05 slOosh wrote:
Ok I'm gonna say some stuff now.

People who are "baiting" - I'm not totally familiar with the term but it seems like it is an easy way to explain away suspicious behavior. This stops now. That sort of stuff belongs in PM-land if at all, and I want it out of my thread.

@talis: Stop it with the interest in flavor - you are spamming up the thread and if you are town you are doing a terrible job. A whole 24hrs into the day and all I have from you is "Ok with policy lynching". I will push for your lynch before a policy lynch. Proper organized thoughts on actual scum targets rather than screwing around.

@WBG:
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On August 04 2012 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Let's kill grush. As long as he trolls he's a detriment and certainly the only thing he actually does as scum is troll. Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game, just as he wasn't in LV.
He was town in LV. In either case I'd think him more vig rather than lynch material, and in a town like this where activity is the main problem (opposed to spamming), he won't do much damage. Do you not like any of the other possible lynch candidates brought up so far?

I also want some current thoughts on prplhz - talk on him ended up getting buried and I have no interest in cutting him slack when he hasn't shown anything worth cutting slack for.


LVI, whatever that game was. The game in which I kept saying let's kill grush because he's trolling and no one killed him.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 08:47 GMT
#469
also no, obviously I think all the other lynch candidates are inferior.

Why should we resort to trusting a vig to shoot grush? How do we even know if we have a vig? This sort of stuff really pisses me off, because it delays the inevitable.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 10:56 GMT
#474
On August 04 2012 18:51 strongandbig wrote:
man bugs you can do better than this. what, did you forget that VE and I were in wheel of fortune too?

Ace's Scum 101: get town to lynch people for being bad rather than for being scum.

I mean, I may be bad but I'm not stupid.

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On August 04 2012 17:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
also no, obviously I think all the other lynch candidates are inferior.

Why should we resort to trusting a vig to shoot grush? How do we even know if we have a vig? This sort of stuff really pisses me off, because it delays the inevitable.


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On August 04 2012 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Your basic assumption that outing masons in this game is antitown is flawed. I already pointed that out when...oh, I dunno, I called you bad several times for thinking it.

If you out masons then you pressure them. Zephirdd was 100% correct on why I did it (and if he's scum that was a pretty brilliant play by him). The goal is to distinguish the town masons from the scum masons via their handing of the pressure.

Also it has the side effect of scaring mafia masons into potentially not using their roles if they fear they will instantly be outted and put in a small pool of players for scrutiny.


Playing like Ace only works when you're Ace and always play like Ace.

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On August 03 2012 20:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
1. Being a mason isn't alignment indicative (therefore outting a mason is rather worthless)


Town wbg would realize that this logic is terrible.

Town wbg wouldn't give multiple different explanations for outing masons on day 1 without discussing it with them and without participating with the town discussion of whether masons should claim.
(for reference, those explanations were "because VE and I are good and this way medics might medic us", and "to pressure the masons")

Town wbg wouldn't try to lead a lynch on a bad player just for being bad, without making a case, etc.

This isn't town wbg.

##vote: wherebugsgo


Number 1:

I did not give multiple explanations for outting the masons. I gave one. I don't see how you asserting that I gave multiple explanations is an indication that I did.

Secondly, I don't give a fuck about mason discussion in this game because it's a waste of time. Masons can claim and it has absolutely no bearing on their alignment. This isn't like the setups I run where claiming actually matters significantly because they're almost certainly confirmed town.

Third, how is being a mason not being alignment indicative (a fucking fact of the setup) "terrible logic"?

Fourth, there is absolutely something wrong with you if you think I am a better lynch than grush. Grush is playing to his LVI meta. If you don't care to read LVI, then you can continue being bad.

Also, I'm not voting grush for being bad. He's going to be bad regardless of his alignment, but I've already pointed out how as town he doesn't actually troll this hard, unless he's somehow become even worse than he already was.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 10:57 GMT
#475
On August 04 2012 19:41 Erandorr wrote:
Yes. Thank you Strongandbig.

I would like to expand a bit on what you have been saying.

Show nested quote +
Gotta love 8:30 vision appointments.

For anyone who doesn't know, from my perspective Erandor and VE share two important traits:

One, they both call me scum in every game without fail regardless of their own alignments.

Two, they're both awful as town.

Right now I lean toward Erandor being terrible, since I don't think as scum he'd stop being lazy long enough to form a coherent sentence.


Everyone look at what WBG is doing in this post.Now think about this post and try to see town motivation.
As I stated before, I don't call him Scum every game. It just happens that we basicly never had the same alignment before. So when I call him Scum, he usually is Scum.

The important part : WBG is not discrediting the arguments, he is trying to discredit the players.
That is not something a good town player should ever do without being really frustrated. And there really was no reason for him to be this hyper agressive this early on. Unless he was scum and wanted to create a terrible atmosphere.

Look at everything I have posted , look at what StrongandBig and Toad added. And then do the right thing and help us kill Scum.


I'm discrediting your arguments BECAUSE THEY'RE WRONG.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 11:04 GMT
#477
at the time it was his only post in the game, and it fit his mafia meta.

All his posts since then have simply affirmed that.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 04 2012 11:24 GMT
#480
I didn't play in SSB64. However if we're going to cherry pick quotes then look at these from LV (town)

On May 28 2012 01:02 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote:
idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town.


Cool.

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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote:
idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town.
In Storm I gave a list with 5 names of possible mafias which ended up including 3 mafias although VE ended up being MVP that game because he somehow managed to get an even better list making a list of 4 or 5 people that included all 4 mafias (if I remember correclty). In C9++ #2 I said #1 mafia is either A or B, #2 mafia is C, #3 mafia is either D or E while saying everyone else is surely town and it ended up being A, C and E.


Okay, getting 3 out of 5 mafia right isn't an achievement. In LIV, I predicted a lot of the mafia aswell even though I was the "scum mvp"

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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote:
So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now.


Really, right now with 24 townies and NO solid cases you are confident to hit a scum?

Go back to Irk.


and LVI (scum)

On July 05 2012 02:21 grush57 wrote:
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On July 05 2012 00:08 Twelve wrote:
I agree with Kitana and the causualman lynch.
##vote: casualman

YES LETS SHEEP A USELESS PLAYER THAT WILL GIVE US TOWNIES NO INFO AND WASTE A WHOLE CYCLE.
U CRAY CRAY.
oR
MAYBE YOUR SCUM. HMM HMMHMHMHMHMMHMHMHMHMHMHMHMHMMHMHMHMHMHMHMHMH
All you have to think, and scum will fall!
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Twelve



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