On July 16 2012 07:08 Mattchew wrote:
I can't do this and bureaucracy TT
I can't do this and bureaucracy TT
yes, this is the big issue i think
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On July 16 2012 07:08 Mattchew wrote: I can't do this and bureaucracy TT yes, this is the big issue i think | ||
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On August 02 2012 00:17 strongandbig wrote: dnd bro. Gotta paralyze your friends and throw them down a well so they can "explore" it. actually wait a minute, dnd mafia would be sick Erandorr is deffo the early leader for lol didn't read thread! | ||
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On August 02 2012 06:10 Erandorr wrote: Show nested quote + On August 02 2012 00:18 marvellosity wrote: On August 02 2012 00:17 strongandbig wrote: On August 01 2012 23:43 Erandorr wrote: bc y u no start game dnd bro. Gotta paralyze your friends and throw them down a well so they can "explore" it. actually wait a minute, dnd mafia would be sick Erandorr is deffo the early leader for lol didn't read thread! Yeah cause pregame spam is vital to establish yourself amirite damn right | ||
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On August 03 2012 00:16 strongandbig wrote: What, are you now the anthropomorphic personification of the European time zone? I love people from Europe and being in Europe, I just don't like being six hours off of everything important. Besides you're not even in this time zone! Everything important? Olympics is in the UK and you're in Switzerland. Meantime is in London. What are you calling important, bitch? ^^ Also yes, yes I am the personification of European timezone that I don't quite inhabit. | ||
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August 08 2012 22:45 GMT
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On August 03 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote: i'm town | ||
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August 08 2012 22:56 GMT
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anyway i mostly followed day 1 and kinda tapered off day 2 so have some catching up to do. my preliminary reads coming in are that talis is town wbg is scum for his case on grush | ||
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August 08 2012 23:14 GMT
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August 08 2012 23:19 GMT
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August 08 2012 23:24 GMT
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On August 04 2012 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's kill grush. As long as he trolls he's a detriment and certainly the only thing he actually does as scum is troll. Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game, just as he wasn't in LV. ##vote grush57 Remembering the post-discussion conversation in obs in LVI. There was conversation about pinning grush's alignment. grush trolls no matter which alignment he plays, and the distinguishing factor is that when he's town he at least makes reads with his 'starsenses'. This was recently and it was you who were talking about it. You CANNOT therefore say, with clear conscience that "Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game", because of your own meta metric on him, that would not be enough to make any kind of read on him. It's bullshit. Further to this you made a non-pushed case on Xsebt, and apart from that you've shat up the thread. Pretty sure you're scum. | ||
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August 09 2012 00:17 GMT
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On August 09 2012 09:15 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 09 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote: On August 04 2012 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's kill grush. As long as he trolls he's a detriment and certainly the only thing he actually does as scum is troll. Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game, just as he wasn't in LV. ##vote grush57 Remembering the post-discussion conversation in obs in LVI. There was conversation about pinning grush's alignment. grush trolls no matter which alignment he plays, and the distinguishing factor is that when he's town he at least makes reads with his 'starsenses'. This was recently and it was you who were talking about it. You CANNOT therefore say, with clear conscience that "Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game", because of your own meta metric on him, that would not be enough to make any kind of read on him. It's bullshit. Further to this you made a non-pushed case on Xsebt, and apart from that you've shat up the thread. Pretty sure you're scum. I didn't comment on his starsense bullshit. I said he at least tries to contribute. He didn't contribute jack shit. in *one* post at the start of the game. lol bugs. | ||
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August 09 2012 10:24 GMT
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I cannot believe how awful wbg was this game like, seriously just absolutely awful | ||
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August 10 2012 00:01 GMT
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Should we just lynch zeph or glasse instead Glasse especially for his annoying "I'm playing like a dick, but I refuse to stop playing like a dick even though I'm telling everyone I'm playing like a dick" attitude | ||
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August 10 2012 00:07 GMT
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August 10 2012 00:12 GMT
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thx <3 | ||
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August 10 2012 00:13 GMT
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August 10 2012 00:13 GMT
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this is ludicrous | ||
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August 10 2012 00:14 GMT
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is this chinese whispers mafia or soemthing? | ||
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August 10 2012 00:17 GMT
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On August 10 2012 09:16 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2012 09:14 JingleHell wrote: On August 10 2012 09:13 marvellosity wrote: who the fudge is X? And that succinctly covers why not many people are voting based on it. We all have the same question. Toad is withholding the info. well yeah because I was asked to. If the guy tells the truth we can get way more out of it with this proxy. I could tell another mason to mason him so that he can get the next read the next cycle. If the mason lies the DT can just claim, I can confirm the DT and we found ourselves a mafia-mason after already finding mafia-Talis. Telling the name doesn't really change a thing. jesus christ, are you scum? A DT check's reliability isn't based on the trustworthiness of the person in question? ???????? | ||
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August 10 2012 00:20 GMT
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On August 10 2012 09:18 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2012 09:17 marvellosity wrote: On August 10 2012 09:16 Toadesstern wrote: On August 10 2012 09:14 JingleHell wrote: On August 10 2012 09:13 marvellosity wrote: who the fudge is X? And that succinctly covers why not many people are voting based on it. We all have the same question. Toad is withholding the info. well yeah because I was asked to. If the guy tells the truth we can get way more out of it with this proxy. I could tell another mason to mason him so that he can get the next read the next cycle. If the mason lies the DT can just claim, I can confirm the DT and we found ourselves a mafia-mason after already finding mafia-Talis. Telling the name doesn't really change a thing. jesus christ, are you scum? A DT check's reliability isn't based on the trustworthiness of the person in question? ???????? well if the red check is against the #1 or at least #2 scumread in the game I don't really see how the name makes much of a difference. ???????????????????????????????????????????? | ||
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August 10 2012 13:38 GMT
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August 10 2012 14:20 GMT
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August 10 2012 15:31 GMT
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August 10 2012 15:41 GMT
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August 10 2012 17:05 GMT
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August 10 2012 18:25 GMT
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On August 11 2012 02:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I have no intention of voting xsebt. Its either you or VE at this point. Lynching into a dt is insane, confirmed or not. 1) If they're both scum of course they do 2) This is completely true and probably why I'll vote for you by the end of this. 3) Again, if they're scum no rules were broken. You keep feeding us info that we can use to try to win later, but insist we kill you. I'm all but convinced your town, but we can't risk it going into LYLO. I'm still not voting until xsebt gets his ass in here and gives some semblance of an explanation for this shitshow. why is it insane? is Xsebt town to you? | ||
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August 10 2012 18:28 GMT
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August 10 2012 18:30 GMT
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August 10 2012 18:36 GMT
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On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly. | ||
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August 10 2012 18:45 GMT
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On August 11 2012 03:43 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2012 03:36 marvellosity wrote: On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote: On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly. As far as I know I am not breaking any rules so I am playing properly. On August 10 2012 01:26 Glasse wrote: This game is so weird, I don't think I've ever played one like this before. The atmosphere is just wrong. I probably picked the wrong game to play this way. Oh well, can't stop now. This. Explain. | ||
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August 10 2012 19:21 GMT
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On August 11 2012 04:02 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2012 03:56 Hopeless1der wrote: No, Glasse, you're lurking the shit out of the game, same as 4 or 5 others on whom we have very poor reads due to inactivity. Scum gets to hide now and are likely to continue to do so into the endgame. You are a massive hindrance to town. There's nothing I can do about that, so I don't see how that makes me a hindrance. I might not be helpful but I'm not a hindrance. We need a no lurker policy to make that happen. If that's what you think then you need to re-evaluate right now. You are absolutely a hindrance because town is not able to get a proper read on you, nor are you bringing anything to the table. How do you see this as not being a hindrance? You are aware enough of goings-on to reply to these questions, but the mind boggles that your stance is "I'll continue being useless - at least I'm not a hindrance". It makes absolutely zero sense. This town is deep in the shit because people like you to play the game properly. I replaced in last night for a scummy lurker, and I have had ZERO attention on me, no-one asking me questions about how my predecessor played, and it's farcical. The reason being that there's the clusterfuck around the main candidates, but also there are SO MANY PLAYERS like you that are doing nothing. If you are town, contribute your god-damn opinion and try to win this game. | ||
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August 10 2012 19:48 GMT
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On August 08 2012 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Man, slOosh was like, TOTALLY sure I was town. I guess no one finds it...ODD that one of his stronger town-reads just HAPPENS to be one of the lynch candidates today...the day AFTER he's not around to smack the shit out of the wagon leaders HOLY PISS THE WAGON LEADERS ARE SLOOSH'S SCUMREADS WELL TARNATION!! Now that is a coincidence. You know what else is a coincidence? The fact that Erandorr happened to flipflop on me after my read on him and after slOosh flipped town. That's a coincidence too, surely. BUT HEY, KEEP DOIN WHAT YOU'RE DOIN GUYS IT'S WORKING OUT! I PROMISE! On August 06 2012 08:37 slOosh wrote: Yea, so I reread the whole thread from the start. Here's what I got: Talismania is tomorrow's lynch. He has continued to ask inane questions, pursue irrelevant topics, and the problem is that people are actually getting distracted in responding to him. He has under the guise of ignorance tried to pass off anti town advice and is feigning contribution when it really is meaningless activity. Other good scum candidates I picked up combing through thread were BioSC Hier Lazermonkey VE is maybe 3rd tier. Unless he has a strong showing tomorrow I'd chalk him up scum using mason as an excuse for thread inactivity. Reminder to detectives that you are ROLE cops, not ALIGNMENT cops. That is, checking masons are a waste of an investigation. Vigs should aim to shoot scum. SCUM. Shooting lurker is not ok unless you have reasonable belief that he is scum, because frankly we have too many and you will probably end up hitting a lazy townie. | ||
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August 10 2012 20:33 GMT
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August 10 2012 20:56 GMT
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August 10 2012 21:06 GMT
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August 10 2012 21:09 GMT
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On August 11 2012 06:09 talismania wrote: yeah, this is clearly best. If zeph flips scum, lynch me tomorrow. why does that make any sense? | ||
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August 10 2012 21:14 GMT
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On August 11 2012 06:12 CountDropula wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2012 06:06 talismania wrote: oh well I guess they want to guarantee zeph's lynch tomorrow after I flip miller or just win the game outright during the night. I think best play here is lynch zephirdd, zeph flips town. Check Lazer. Then we have two confirmed scum. He confirmed. Time for you to bow out. why are you pushing someone else's redcheck and not your own? | ||
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August 10 2012 21:15 GMT
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August 10 2012 21:16 GMT
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August 10 2012 21:18 GMT
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best odds lynch vote him | ||
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August 10 2012 21:22 GMT
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if you are DT then zeph will flip scum and np if he doesn't then you are scum what poison? | ||
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August 10 2012 21:26 GMT
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August 10 2012 21:33 GMT
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August 11 2012 11:30 GMT
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August 11 2012 11:31 GMT
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August 11 2012 14:25 GMT
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On August 11 2012 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Aside from easy WIFOM re: my likelihood of being GF if I were scum, I wouldn't mind a check on me either. hmm that's true. would be almost as worthless as Probe's check on Wiggles in LV. | ||
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August 11 2012 19:26 GMT
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On August 12 2012 03:08 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2012 00:53 Hopeless1der wrote: Would you care to elaborate at all MrZentor? Can you address the GF theory that Talis has laid out and why you disagree with him? Well we had a red check on Talis and CD was in favor of a Zeph lynch that ended up lynching a mafia instead of just voting Talis, which would have been the easiest way to "store" his vote no matter of talis alignment. Give me a single reason to think CD is mafia given the situation right now. What are you talking about? Cd wanted a talis lynch and I pushed the zeph lynch ... | ||
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August 12 2012 00:15 GMT
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like, i'm the one who pushed the lynch onto Zeph and said talis was town? yes??? | ||
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August 12 2012 00:16 GMT
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August 12 2012 00:18 GMT
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August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
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August 12 2012 00:26 GMT
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August 12 2012 00:42 GMT
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On August 12 2012 09:29 Hopeless1der wrote: Marv do you really want the vig to claim? I don't think that's a good idea right now regardless of if they have more shots. Note there are only 2 confirmed vig shots (i.e. 3 NK's) so they might be out of bullets. Not really sure on the normal mechanics but the OP reads that its either 1 bullet or essentially unlimited bullets. No, I want the vig to listen before he takes matters into his own hands. Jingle - can you give me two people you want to lynch today and why. I don't want a massive narrative I just want somewhere to start. | ||
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August 12 2012 00:54 GMT
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August 12 2012 12:05 GMT
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Secondly, tell me why VE is scum in a manner that is alignment-indicative for HIM. Because we know VE is different to others Also, how do you feel about Broodking being scum? | ||
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August 12 2012 12:44 GMT
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August 12 2012 12:51 GMT
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answer them. | ||
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August 12 2012 12:52 GMT
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August 12 2012 13:25 GMT
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toad being terrible strikes again. why would you NOT want to answer why you think VE is scum, and why are your thoughts on Broodking a secret?? | ||
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August 12 2012 13:35 GMT
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August 12 2012 13:55 GMT
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I applaud you. Why don't you want to talk about broodking? | ||
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August 12 2012 17:29 GMT
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On August 13 2012 02:23 Lazermonkey wrote: Marv: Zeph was dead no matter what also. The way he even said that we should give him MORE town cred for that is imo alarming. This is getting boring. Go take a look at the Vote thread. See how many votes Zephirdd had before I voted for him. See how fast the votes came in for Zephirdd after I voted for him. | ||
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August 12 2012 17:34 GMT
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On August 11 2012 00:27 MrZentor wrote: ##Vote: Lazermonkey wtf was this about. Zentor scum? | ||
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August 12 2012 17:35 GMT
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Get over yourself, I don't need to prove I'm town to you, mr kill-townie-talis-with-fire. | ||
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August 12 2012 17:40 GMT
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August 12 2012 17:41 GMT
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August 12 2012 17:43 GMT
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August 12 2012 18:02 GMT
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Hassy has to be scum. I was looking through Zentor's filter. He has been COMPLETELY USELESS. What does that mean? He's probably town. He actually makes an effort when he's scum, but i've seen him basically not play the game at all when he's town. Toad... you're probably town but you don't help anything. Lazer of course is not godfather and so is probably town. JingleHell never got back to me so I guess that's a bit weird. Where are you bro? Synstr - ???? Broodking - maybe scum too. I don't see much townieness in his play. Hier & Glasse - probably too batshit crazy to be scum, so gonna call them town. VE - finally gonna call scum on him. Now is the time to tell people he masoned me yesterday. I saw no effort from him to discern my alignment whatsoever. Further, I pointed out (in my filter) his lie to do with slOosh's perception of him. Also in his filter he says "I only ignore people when I'm scum" and he ignored talis re: Zephirdd multiple times (he said in private that this was "spite" - don't buy it). Generally I think talis' case is pretty strong. Kinda most noteworthy to me - VE has been playing in a much more constructive, "townie" manner recently. In this game he seems to have completely reverted to his old ways which suggest scum. For example the bit that talis pointed out - "you'll regret this folly tonight, medics will be all over this shit" is just batshit crazy and not recent town VE. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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August 12 2012 18:14 GMT
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On August 13 2012 03:11 Hopeless1der wrote: marv what are your thoughts on me? I'm conspicuously missing from that post. And could you post the logs b/w you and VE? I'm reading VE and synystyr as scum and varying degrees of town on the rest of us. Lazer and Toad are confirmed to me despite the GF conundrum. I'll have a case together soon on synystyr, but I want a VE lynch today. and also teehee I'm a joker lol. what gives you your scumread on Synstr? I did indeed give his filter a flick through but I just got ???. He may end up being scum through elimination though. What do you think of Broodking? Er, you're missing probably because I didn't think of you as that notable when i was thinking about things (sorry man ). That means you get default town status. As for logs, no. We chatted on irc and I don't think my conversations are saved anywhere. ho hum. | ||
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August 12 2012 23:25 GMT
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August 13 2012 10:18 GMT
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August 13 2012 12:09 GMT
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On August 13 2012 20:24 Toadesstern wrote: still a little unsure about VE to be honest. I'd rather see some people who don't usually talk a lot talk about the pros and cons of a VE lynch and why they think lynching VE is the best move right now if they're voting him. I think I already said enough the last couple of days and we desperately need everyone to join the discussion so gogo. mostly right now we need people to sheep me/talis | ||
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August 13 2012 12:42 GMT
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On August 13 2012 21:32 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + Sorry for noob question but what does sheep mean?On August 13 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote: On August 13 2012 20:24 Toadesstern wrote: still a little unsure about VE to be honest. I'd rather see some people who don't usually talk a lot talk about the pros and cons of a VE lynch and why they think lynching VE is the best move right now if they're voting him. I think I already said enough the last couple of days and we desperately need everyone to join the discussion so gogo. mostly right now we need people to sheep me/talis follow. like sheep :> | ||
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August 13 2012 13:05 GMT
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On August 13 2012 21:56 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote: On August 13 2012 20:24 Toadesstern wrote: still a little unsure about VE to be honest. I'd rather see some people who don't usually talk a lot talk about the pros and cons of a VE lynch and why they think lynching VE is the best move right now if they're voting him. I think I already said enough the last couple of days and we desperately need everyone to join the discussion so gogo. mostly right now we need people to sheep me/talis I thought you wanted me to post more and explain more although I'm kinda confirmed town. So if you didn't want me to post more because you wanted to read me you wanted me to post more because you're trusting my judgement (at least a tiny bit?) or why else would you want me to post on something that you (apparently?) agree with. And now it's all about sheeping you instead? That's kind of a change of mind, isn't it? Toad, darling, I know you have trust issues, let's work on them together <3 It's either you or VE as godfather when it comes down to it. And right now it's extremely likely it's VE and not you, for reasons previously given by various people. You're a vet here and capable of helping to lead town. Yet you're providing uncertainty instead. You said I'm more likely to be scum than Hassy, which is absolutely nuts. Look at Hassy's vote on Zeph for god's sake. I've come in trying to bully town a bit, because that's what town needs. It's been drifting around rudderless for days. I'm not trying to take all credit for the Zeph lynch (hello red check did that :>) but I helped push the lynch off talis on to Zeph. Now I'm trying to get the next mafia target lynched. So let's do this, ya? | ||
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August 13 2012 15:57 GMT
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August 13 2012 16:10 GMT
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On August 14 2012 01:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Ugh...I'm totes scum but yeah I gotta die. :/ Sorry I haven't been around, I had some stuff come up the last couple of days. I think of everyone, I think I'd like a Hassy lynch the mostest...but that's because I'm trying a desperate bus save. Fuck, sorry team...right after my buddy got lynched too. :/ fix'd for ya | ||
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August 13 2012 17:58 GMT
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On August 14 2012 02:31 Hopeless1der wrote: I was re-reading the last few pages and I never answered Marv regarding what my thoughts on BKE were. Right now, leaning scum. VE flipping red will reinforce my scum read of BKE. At work, can't draw up a case right now. I'll probably have it done close to the deadline. if you get a moment, could you explain why VE flipping red would make BKE more likely red? | ||
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August 13 2012 18:05 GMT
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On August 14 2012 02:37 JingleHell wrote: Hey people. Sorry about not getting back faster. Ended up not having as much free time as I thought this weekend. I see people are finally getting onboard for VE. About time. Once my kid goes down for his nap, I'll try and get that filter diving I've been promising done. ##Vote VE Funny that I have to go back 2+ pages in your filter since you even last mentioned VE being a scumread. If by 'about time' you mean 'people are now looking at townie talismania's VE case' then yes. Where were you pushing VE when talis was making his large (good) case? I also remind people reading this that talis was a TOWN-READ for Jingle, so why wasn't Jingle helping push the VE case with Talis?? | ||
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August 13 2012 18:12 GMT
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August 13 2012 18:14 GMT
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August 13 2012 18:17 GMT
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Such unnecessary defensiveness than a huge OMGUS based on... what? the fact i observed something about your filter? rofl. currently looking at VisceraEyes, Hassybaby, JingleHell, BroodkingEXE, Synstr | ||
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August 13 2012 18:18 GMT
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On August 14 2012 03:15 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2012 03:14 marvellosity wrote: I find your huge defensiveness intriguing Ask around. I always get pissed about batshit, stupid, tinfoil hat cases that ignore the information. that's the funny thing. there wasn't a tinfoilhat case. there was me observing something about your filter and you blowing up about it. | ||
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August 13 2012 18:24 GMT
#1696
On August 14 2012 03:21 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote: haha. I blew my cover? Wow. Your lack of control of your emotions is as usual your undoing. Such unnecessary defensiveness than a huge OMGUS based on... what? the fact i observed something about your filter? rofl. currently looking at VisceraEyes, Hassybaby, JingleHell, BroodkingEXE, Synstr Right, says the guy who has a very convenient cover of replacing for a lurker, who came in trying to take over the thread, wanting all the masons to talk to him... why, so you could convince them of your innocence? You're trying to somehow make me scum? Just because I've been less of an idiot? Your "replacement BOTD" is officially gone, coming after me with nothing and calling me pointing it out as suspicious an OMGUS is a pretty clear scum motive. Of course, lynching me will prove you're scum, so I have nothing to fear. You so funny, qtpie. I want the masons to talk to me to convince them of my innocence? Nice mafia mindset. No, I want masons to talk to me so I can extract information. Like with VE. I'm not trying to make you scum because you're "less of an idiot", whatever that means. The fact is you're having an unnecessary aneuryism when I pointed something out about VE from your filter. Where's the OMGUS? there's no OMGUS, just using emotive words now are we? "coming after you with nothing" - see, I wasn't even coming after you before, I was prodding you for information. And by god, you've given me that information. Let's play, Jingle. | ||
marvellosity
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August 13 2012 18:30 GMT
#1698
Just like scum. You're next. Gonna risk leaving me alive until tomorrow's day cycle to massage your ego, are we? | ||
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August 13 2012 18:34 GMT
#1700
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marvellosity
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August 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#1702
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marvellosity
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August 13 2012 23:59 GMT
#1704
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#1706
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#1708
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 00:08 GMT
#1710
here he doesn't even bother pretending. town tell imo. | ||
marvellosity
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August 14 2012 00:58 GMT
#1715
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 01:04 GMT
#1718
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 01:35 GMT
#1721
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 01:39 GMT
#1724
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August 14 2012 02:05 GMT
#1727
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 02:13 GMT
#1729
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1742
which means i'm confused about who would be, because VE would be gf before anyone else in the game except maybe bugs. Ugh. Toad I don't know what's wrong with you. Maybe some paranoid hangover from LV where I duped you, is that it? Or are somehow you're gf?? | ||
marvellosity
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August 14 2012 12:25 GMT
#1744
As for VE. What was the credible altnerative? talis made a huge (and good) case, plus I added my thoughts on VE too. The plain fact of the matter is that no-one believed he was town enough to speak up for him. Also roleblocker can't be godfather surely? | ||
marvellosity
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August 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#1747
like we're both agreeing, it was kinda basically the only alternative. Plus town VE before he gets lynched usually fucking dishes out the reads and info for before he dies, as the day goes on. As the day went on and he didn't do it, it became more obvious he'd flip mafia. | ||
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August 14 2012 12:59 GMT
#1749
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August 14 2012 13:02 GMT
#1751
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marvellosity
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August 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#1758
most obvious atm | ||
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August 15 2012 00:46 GMT
#1768
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August 15 2012 01:03 GMT
#1771
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#1774
thank you vigilante for listening to me | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:09 GMT
#1778
##Vote: JingleHell | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:12 GMT
#1780
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#1782
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:15 GMT
#1784
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:17 GMT
#1786
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:21 GMT
#1790
you tell me what you've done this game for town. then i'll tell you what i've done in less than half the time. gogo. | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#1792
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#1793
You know I've read Jingle's filter because I referenced it on page 85. You can see how clearly I view that whole exchange. Don't throw a hissy fit please, and tell me if you think JingleHell is town. | ||
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August 15 2012 02:00 GMT
#1795
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 03:03 GMT
#1800
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 11:57 GMT
#1804
On August 15 2012 20:44 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2012 12:49 BroodKingEXE wrote: Sorry took so long had to step out for a while. On August 04 2012 09:03 Erandorr wrote: Come on skype for a bit bugs. Now please I legit thought this was the post Erandorr outed himself. Didnt see WBGs out. Glasse 1) Glasse first makes a case on prphlz and outright claims his scum read to Talis. Yet right after the vote he has a post jumping off this stance: On August 05 2012 10:11 Glasse wrote: -.- It was to be expected. As if he thought prpphlz was gonna roll town the whole time. 2) On August 05 2012 11:23 Glasse wrote: On August 05 2012 11:17 MrZentor wrote: I'll start defending myself once i have the majority of votes on me, i don't care if people are still suspicious about me, because for now i dont have to worry about town wasting a lynch since nobody is 100% confirmed. This is a quote from Glasse's last game, when he was innocent. + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2012 23:21 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote: On August 03 2012 12:13 Glasse wrote: On August 03 2012 12:08 talismania wrote: On August 03 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm town. for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick. oh man I hope bc didn't link role names and actual roles. kinda bet he did though That could be kinda unfair for those like me who has no clue about mad men. I have no clue who the fuck roger sterling is and what it could imply. So the time was changed to 9pm, so i guess it's day until saturday at 9pm? Useless post. Talks about flavor and deadline. Seems like a token first post that townies wouldn't really care to make. So wondering if the characters had anything to do with roles is incriminating? I don't get it. Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote: On August 03 2012 22:27 Glasse wrote: If the mason role is as important as some people are saying, calling them out only exposes them to mafia no? Non committal post. Asks if your opinions are okay. Scum are focused on how they appear while townies think things through and just say how they feel. Nothing to say here. Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote: On August 03 2012 22:29 Glasse wrote: On August 03 2012 22:16 Zephirdd wrote: Erandorr, why masoning someone who just outted his mason? wherebugsgo might be full of shit, who knows? Spreading doubt and undermining wherebugsgo. I'm just saying how I feel about the whole mason thing going on. Of course I'm gonna spread doubt when I doubt his intentions. I want to know wtf hes up to and others might see the same thing and might be able to figure it out. Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote: Now tell me how and why you are town if you're really as town as town can be. Who is scum? I can't really tell you, I haven't even done anything yet so anything I would say would be completely useless. Can't claim anything other than being green. So you will have to take my word for it. Who is scum? No clue, I don't like this wherebugsgo guy though. But this game, Glasse defends himself once one person voted for him. The problem is that the game is from a year and a half ago, but it's the only thing I can compare his current play to. This alone isn't much, but that coupled with his really weird filter makes him likely to be scum. I like to change my playstyle from game to game so people can't go meta on me. This doesn't make me more likely to be scum. Since you appear to be looking at my tl mafia history you can confirm what I just said if you want to. I don't think I've played many mafia games on here though, maybe like 3 or 4. If you look at his previous games his actual posting style is still one-linish, so I think this statement is a lie. What I do see is that he tries more when he is town(as the game goes on :3) From: Dont lose yo village mafia On November 18 2010 12:42 Glasse wrote: no, we are lynching him because pandain did an action on night 1. and only me(flash) pandain(medic) lsb(tracker) could leave. pandain was the medic and coag is just lying, now that pandain can't counter claim since its his teamate 3) It seems everytime we ask him questions he has a BS response like this: On August 11 2012 03:52 Glasse wrote: On August 11 2012 03:45 marvellosity wrote: On August 11 2012 03:43 Glasse wrote: On August 11 2012 03:36 marvellosity wrote: On August 11 2012 03:34 Glasse wrote: On August 11 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Only SC colors work (red zerg, green toss and blue terran) A while ago we tried to get more colors for mafia but it was rejected. Tell me, and tell me right now, why you won't play properly. As far as I know I am not breaking any rules so I am playing properly. On August 10 2012 01:26 Glasse wrote: This game is so weird, I don't think I've ever played one like this before. The atmosphere is just wrong. I probably picked the wrong game to play this way. Oh well, can't stop now. This. Explain. Because an extra person to try to stop the chaos caused by the early part of the game would've been useful, but now it would just cause even more chaos if I started being more active which wouldn't help because some people think I'm scum and they would just waste more time on me. So I'm actually helping town right now, in some way. Lurking is helping the town -_-. If you look at all my tl mafia games you can see what I clearly change the way I play every game, just so people can't go meta on me. Don't waste your time trying to find something where there isn't anything, focus on finding actual scum. Don't lecture him, because you are totally ****ing useless. THE WAY YOU PLAY MAKES PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE SCUM. This is YOUR FAULT, not anyone else's. The fact is I find it quite unlikely you are scum because the "Glasse timing" as scum implies you came in as scum with the explicit objective to troll town, which I find somewhat unlikely, if not impossible. Even worse, if you are a dumb troll town, you're not even sheeping the townie who's actually killing scum (me). No redeeming features at all in your play. | ||
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August 15 2012 12:14 GMT
#1806
On August 15 2012 12:56 BroodKingEXE wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2012 10:28 Hopeless1der wrote: On August 15 2012 10:21 marvellosity wrote: no. vote for scum. Yes, Sir! ##Vote: marvellosity lol hopeless better be writing a case on marv after the shit he's given me. yes, I'm looking forward to it. *marv comes in, calls the main scumread of everyone town (talis). votes and kills scum in zeph. votes and kills scum in VE. calls the vigi shot on the godfather Hassy. MARV IS SCUM GUISE!!!!!!!1111111111* | ||
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August 15 2012 12:41 GMT
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August 15 2012 12:43 GMT
#1809
Broodking/Synstyr (Zentor/Glasse) are how I view it. Two main options and two outside possibilities. | ||
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August 15 2012 13:11 GMT
#1811
On August 15 2012 22:06 Glasse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2012 21:41 marvellosity wrote: It could! But how about you let me kill off the scum I know are scum before you consider that, ya? Fine, I'll let you play your game The problem with 'my game', sweetie, is that I need people like you to co-operate in order to for it to work | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 14:16 GMT
#1812
However. I might be outrageously arrogant, but much more than this, I want to win. So we cannot afford a mislynch today because of the difficulties I'm having with the final scum means town might need another. With this said, Hopeless1der and all other townies reading, I will actually present the case against JingleHell. That way, if you don't vote with me, I can legtimiately blame whoever doesn't vote for me without losing the game for town, rather than the possibly legitimate excuse that 'marv was an asshole and didn't give a reason'. JingleHell I mostly want to focus on the interactions between him and VE, but I will also touch on the interactions to do with talis/zeph and possibly Erandorr too. To set the scene, JingleHell went hard after Erandorr pretty hard at the beginning of the game. He later dropped the read practically completely, owing to the mason conversation he had with talismania. Think about this for a moment before we continue. Jingle was totally convinced Erandorr was scum (check his filter page 1-2) and was convinced otherwise by talismania. Just want to get the background out there first. The fail bus on VisceraEyes Starting at the end, page 85, with part of his interactions with me: On August 14 2012 03:10 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2012 03:05 marvellosity wrote: On August 14 2012 02:37 JingleHell wrote: Hey people. Sorry about not getting back faster. Ended up not having as much free time as I thought this weekend. I see people are finally getting onboard for VE. About time. Once my kid goes down for his nap, I'll try and get that filter diving I've been promising done. ##Vote VE Funny that I have to go back 2+ pages in your filter since you even last mentioned VE being a scumread. If by 'about time' you mean 'people are now looking at townie talismania's VE case' then yes. Where were you pushing VE when talis was making his large (good) case? I also remind people reading this that talis was a TOWN-READ for Jingle, so why wasn't Jingle helping push the VE case with Talis?? It must be very convincing to mention my filter when you clearly haven't read it. Handy to make a case out of nothing. I don't know what the hell you're thinking, but if you want to make ME look scummy, you'll have to try harder to push through a mislynch on me. I wanted VE days ago. He somehow got Erandorr through instead. This was after Talis explained point by point why he thought the case against Talis was weaker than it looked, and sold me on it. That was one of the things that also convinced me on Talis. All this information is readily available. You know, in my filter, which will also explain every other thing you're waiting to bring up as "evidence" against me. Aside from the absurd ranting against me, the general idea is that he's shouting at me because I didn't appreciate how much he wanted a VE lynch days ago. Let's have a look at how badly he wanted it. Incoming are some quotes with Jingle's thoughts on VE. On August 07 2012 03:33 JingleHell wrote: Frankly, if I was going to call alignment based purely off of the case/countercase etc between you [talis] and VE, it would look like two townies beating each other to death with WIFOM. At the moment, opinion is VE/talis town. Check. Carry on. On August 07 2012 03:06 JingleHell wrote: Well, I don't know how many total masons there are, but we may well have some in reserve, and trying to WIFOM the host seems silly anyways. That said, at least part of the case against VE seems to rely on meta, which is mostly vague references. I've seen a few things that make me question his motive for individual statements (don't remember off the top of my head) but overall his play has seemed consistent without being calculated. A lot of it seems to be semantics rather than motivation, and (given some mistakes I've made reading people that way before) I'd prefer to avoid making it all about that. Overall, I really prefer the stuff that started crawling around under the rock I already looked under. Since we don't have any living confirmed townies, I'd prefer to avoid trying to prove innocence, and instead try to prove guilt. Establishing innocence is difficult at best, and an easy way to distract the town, so I'd rather keep an eye out for people making statements that require foreknowledge or have no town motive. The case against VE is 'vague meta', 'semantics', VE's play seems 'consistent without being calculated', and it's not about motivation. No scumread yet. BUT HOLY SHIT LOOK AT HIS NEXT MENTION OF VE On August 07 2012 23:00 JingleHell wrote: Going after Hassy at this point almost feels like it would be lynching for information. I can't understand the motivation of his play from any perspective, with his utterly nonexistent posting. Right now, I'd probably be willing to get behind lynches on either VE, Dropula, or (if he doesn't explain his somewhat insane last post in the thread) Eran. :OOOOOOOOOO to reiterate this :OOOOOOOOOO VE- townread townread case is weak case is weak SCUM. Hello?? On August 08 2012 02:06 JingleHell wrote: I've got to say, right now VE is pretty much the number one scumread. Most damning of all, the whole rolefishing thing on Talis. It was really bizarre timing to ask, but if the host actually made roles and names line up (which doesn't seem to be the case), that would just be kind of dumb, making it the core of a case doesn't fly. And then certain things don't line up. Show nested quote + On August 06 2012 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote: No, my reasoning was to establish my innocence with Bugs FIRST, before anyone else. Not so he could defend me, but so he wouldn't suspect me. Townies don't need to "establish" their innocence, that just happens through proper behavior. Along with everything else, you've pretty much topped my reads for the day. He's morphed into JingleHell's #1 scumread. Excellent. Explanations in the quote above? VE is scum because of the rolefishing thing, and that he said he wanted to establish his innocence, 'along with everything else'. Naturally we're not treated to everything else. This is some seriously weak sauce for calling someone your #1 scumread. JingleHell goes nuts at Broodking: On August 08 2012 02:25 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2012 02:17 BroodKingEXE wrote: On August 08 2012 02:06 JingleHell wrote: I've got to say, right now VE is pretty much the number one scumread. Most damning of all, the whole rolefishing thing on Talis. It was really bizarre timing to ask, but if the host actually made roles and names line up (which doesn't seem to be the case), that would just be kind of dumb, making it the core of a case doesn't fly. And then certain things don't line up. On August 06 2012 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote: No, my reasoning was to establish my innocence with Bugs FIRST, before anyone else. Not so he could defend me, but so he wouldn't suspect me. Townies don't need to "establish" their innocence, that just happens through proper behavior. Along with everything else, you've pretty much topped my reads for the day. You'e never played a game with VE have you. Establishing his innocence is something he mentions every game. I dont think anyone agrees that Talis' rolefishing had any place in this town, so why not call it out? This reasoning is too shabby for you to be making votes. You know what? I'm about fucking sick of this stupid shit. If I had the gall to mention in the thread that I've just finished my newbie games, I bet you people would rip me to shreds over trying to use it as a crutch, but any time someone doesn't like something I say or do, they bring it up. Fuck off. If you want to defend the guy who's been kinda crazy for a while now, that's your call, but don't tell me where to vote. If someone claims scum every single game, even when they're not, does that mean they're never scum? No. It just means they have useful meta for when they play as scum. Anyways, I have my reasons for my vote. I could reiterate what a dozen other people have said, or I could just reference some of the bigger stuff. Seems easier. He 'has his reasons'. He could reiterate what other people have said... but he doesn't even bother. He references 'some of the bigger stuff'. The only thing he referenced so far is rolefishing and VE wanting to prove his innocence. But remember - VE #1 scumread for Jingle. Let's see what happens next. On August 10 2012 01:47 JingleHell wrote: Ok, so I still think VE has a fair shot of flipping scum, but I'd like to propose an alternative to vote. Dropula. So. After JingleHell hasn't pushed VE in any way whatsoever, he now provides an alternative in CountDropula. Why isn't Jingle pushing VE, like AT ALL? On August 10 2012 08:08 JingleHell wrote: I still think he's a strong lynch candidate, for the same reasons I did already, with a mislynch he helped push added on top of it. However, I think that if people aren't interested in VE, CD is also a great target. Nope, absolutely refuses to push VE in any way. This is simply a terrible, terrible bus. VE goes from being a townread with a weak case on him, to being JingleHell's #1 scumread, with barely any explanation. Jingle then does not push for a VE lynch in any way, and instead seeks alternatives in Dropula. This is clear scum play. Inconsistences with talismania and redchecks I made it clear earlier how JingleHell viewed talis as a pretty strong townread after talismania 'convinced' Jingle off Erandorr in their mason chat. Anyhoo, now we have an outed red-check on talismania. Just as a point of reference - I came in to the game thinking talismania was town, and even though there was a redcheck on him, I showed no inclination to lynch talismania whatsoever. That's your comparison, folks. On August 10 2012 13:36 JingleHell wrote: You know, as much as I really never got a scum vibe off you [talis], and as much as your argument here is making sense (with at least quick glimpses at filter for activity), even if we assume miller, having a red check alive at MYLO/LYLO is terrible for reaching critical consensus when the scum numbers are coming so close to townie. I don't want to lynch for information, and I don't want to screw up our odds. But I still want to trust my town read on you. If you can sway enough people on a lynch I'd prefer to get behind, I'll swap my vote up. If you're wrong, we take it as scum confirmation and off you instead. I gave a lot of reasons for my town read on you, and I'm sure that scummy people with an agenda will be targeting me after today's lynch no matter how it goes, since I believe you, so I might as well follow my gut. According to Jingle, talis's arguments makes sense. He reiterates his town-read. But he's setting the scene for voting for talis if necessary - "having a red check alive at MYLO/LYLO is terrible for reaching critical consensus when the scum numbers are coming so close to townie." Most pertinent is what I've bolded, though. Although talis has been pushing VE, which if we recall, JINGLE SUPPOSEDLY COMPLETELY AGREES WITH, Jingle is telling talis that HE has to sway people on another lynch, otherwise he's scum. Why isn't JINGLE defending his townread (talis) and pushing the main scumread of them both, VisceraEyes? On August 11 2012 00:48 JingleHell wrote: Actually, like I already said, unless he presents a truly strong target, like a perfect case, we should still kill him. Unless he's able to prove himself to be worth the gamble of potentially having alive at MYLO/LYLO when he's been redchecked, he's a liability. Jingle basically abandons his town-read on talis in favour of believing the red-check. Weak play from someone we all know is monumentally opinionated and does not back down from their reads. At this stage CD comes out as DT with a redcheck on Zephirdd. On August 11 2012 06:11 JingleHell wrote: I'm not taking my vote off a confirmed redcheck. Even Talis is helping confirm Xsebt. I'm going conspiracy theorist on CD/Lazer scum trying to sneak some crazy shit past us to push a lynch on Zeph right now. I don't believe there's a second DT, this shit seems too crazy to me. At this point Jingle is happily voting to kill his strong town-read, talismania. Note the bold... and then part of a post I quoted just a moment ago: On August 10 2012 13:36 JingleHell wrote: I don't want to lynch for information :OOOOO Finally, Lazer has 'confirmed' CD with his rolename. So we have Xsebt and CD in IDENTICAL positions where each has a townie confirming them (toad / lazer) and each has a redcheck. In both situations the DT is either telling the truth, or he's outing himself and his townie. On August 11 2012 06:17 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2012 06:12 Lazermonkey wrote: On August 11 2012 06:05 JingleHell wrote: Well either both me and Dropula is scum or bot of us is town. I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but I think one of our DTs is a liar, and possibly using some scum info to pass it off. I mean, right now the role list sounds more like Conspiracy Theory mafia. I know it's nuts to WIFOM the host, but what the hell. Either we believe this setup is absurd as hell, or we see how today's lynch goes and start looking at cases. I usually don't trust anyone, but starting now, I go into paranoia mode. I know. And it sounds fucking crazy, but so does the setup people are suggesting we have here. Let's face it though, CD also sounds crazy. The only thing making me think it's plausible is the fact that you'd never agree to something insane like that, and you'd probably bus any idiot who ran it behind your back. If there's two DTs, it could explain the seeming excess of Millers, though. We really need to figure out what to do about this. It starts increasing the odds Talis really is a miller, to me, but you know how bad I hate letting a redcheck live. It's a sign of how sold I was on Talis's townieness that I'm even entertaining the notion of not lynching him. So we have TWO redchecks. But it seems Jingle still actually wants to lynch talis and is barely entertaining the thought of Zephirdd. He's entertaining the notion of not lynching talis? You mean... Jingle may take his vote off his townread? Why isn't he all over Zeph like hotcakes?? No, Jingle only votes for Zeph after I lead the voting stream and a bunch of other people vote for him as well. Just wow. Overall: Jingle is dong a poorly executed bus on VE where his townread becomes a scumread with little explanation. He does not push VE, and instead seeks outs (goes after CD instead). He has a townread on talis but is happy to lynch on the redcheck despite his read, and despite inconstencies I have pointed out. He is reluctant to vote for the other redcheck, Zeph, until pushed into it despite the fact he should have been all over it like a rash. I point out what I viewed as an inconsistency with VE back on page 85. Jingle goes nuts at me, and it is now clear why. JingleHell is scum, and we must lynch him today. | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 14:32 GMT
#1814
On August 15 2012 23:31 JingleHell wrote: If you want to convince me you're town, go for someone who's actually scummy, or at least make a case against me that doesn't ignore the majority of my filter. I don't give a shit what you think of me. The case speaks for itself. | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 14:35 GMT
#1815
You're out of your depth, kid. | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 14:41 GMT
#1818
On August 15 2012 23:39 JingleHell wrote: You know what? Go fuck yourself, I'm not taking this shit from anyone who thinks calling me "kid" makes their case stronger. Me calling you kid has nothing to do with my case. It stands for itself. Again, I referenced your logs with talismania re: Erandorr. Learn to read. Anyway, not gonna get into mudslinging. Town, you can see my case for yourselves. You can see scum Jingle squirming like a little bitch. Let's do this. | ||
marvellosity
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August 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1821
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August 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1822
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marvellosity
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August 15 2012 22:06 GMT
#1824
I sincerely hope scum wins. | ||
marvellosity
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August 16 2012 09:59 GMT
#1830
On August 16 2012 17:06 Hier wrote: I'll be honest, I wasn't sold on the JH lynch. Marv's case wasn't helping either; I think he misinterpreted some of JH's quotes. His overall case wasn't all that strong; he just pointed out that JH's opinion changes from time to time as people post more stuff. ... what did I misrepresent, in any way? And you obviously don't understand how changes of opinions are made and presented matters quite heavily. -_- | ||
marvellosity
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August 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#1831
On August 16 2012 15:58 BroodKingEXE wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 12:15 MrZentor wrote: Meh, I think we should all switch to jinglehell. lol then vote for him in the voting thread not me! But seriously how can you tell everyone to vote for JH while voting for me at the same time? because Zentor is by some margin the worst townie ever to play on TL Mafia? | ||
marvellosity
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August 16 2012 11:56 GMT
#1832
On August 16 2012 19:03 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 15:58 BroodKingEXE wrote: On August 16 2012 12:15 MrZentor wrote: Meh, I think we should all switch to jinglehell. lol then vote for him in the voting thread not me! But seriously how can you tell everyone to vote for JH while voting for me at the same time? because Zentor is by some margin the worst townie ever to play on TL Mafia? just because this is a little excessive without explanation - Zentor KNOWS he's being trolly and useless, he's capable of being otherwise, but for some reason decides being trolly and useless is the best way to help everyone else enjoy the game. ... | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:10 GMT
#1838
What has Jingle done this cycle? OMGUS'd me, swore at me, called my case bad without trying to refute ANY of it, made some point about his logs showing he hadn't read my case, and what? In short, Jingle has done nothing this cycle that even remotely suggests he is trying to win this game for town. NOTHING. I clearly want to win this game for town. C'mon. Vote JingleHell. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#1840
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:24 GMT
#1842
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#1844
you are SO pro-town dude it hurts. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#1845
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 20:57 GMT
#1848
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 21:39 GMT
#1850
I can't remember where I saw it but I also saw Jingle reference at some point that he had to go back through his own filter because he'd forgotten what he said. That's much more likely scum than town. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 16 2012 23:45 GMT
#1851
On August 17 2012 05:25 JingleHell wrote: I'll come back and laugh at you in a farewell post at deadline. srsly looking forward to this, btw. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 01:17 GMT
#1854
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#1855
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#1857
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 01:25 GMT
#1860
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 01:32 GMT
#1866
On August 17 2012 10:28 Glasse wrote: wait why did he die? also im sorry for killing all the millers oh, i thought it was Hier. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 12:21 GMT
#1896
None of the QTs for my Newbie game are searchable... when I set them up I didn't have to choose anything for that to be the case either. After Newbie XXIII I searched through all QT's settings when I was setting them up, and I couldn't even find a way to make them NOT-hidden (although i may just be blind). I also still don't know how the Xsebt thing was allowed to slide right to the end of the game, that's really weird to me. It's a shame the game had these things :/ | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 13:54 GMT
#1901
On August 17 2012 22:50 strongandbig wrote: I think that was a mistake Jingle - there's a difference between being a confirmed townie and being able to bully everyone else into agreeing with you. Although tbh I don't think marvellosity was doing that very effectively - imo it was the scumslip that bke found that sealed the deal, up until that point I would've lynched marv first over you had I been alive. why do people give such little credit to actions taken :< if i were mafia i would have had to have taken the decision to start bussing people hard in a situation where it was totally unnecessary. it makes so little sense to me how people could view it that way. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 13:55 GMT
#1903
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 14:29 GMT
#1908
On August 17 2012 23:25 strongandbig wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote: On August 17 2012 22:50 strongandbig wrote: I think that was a mistake Jingle - there's a difference between being a confirmed townie and being able to bully everyone else into agreeing with you. Although tbh I don't think marvellosity was doing that very effectively - imo it was the scumslip that bke found that sealed the deal, up until that point I would've lynched marv first over you had I been alive. why do people give such little credit to actions taken :< if i were mafia i would have had to have taken the decision to start bussing people hard in a situation where it was totally unnecessary. it makes so little sense to me how people could view it that way. it's totally your scum meta though being a huge jerk to town and bussing all your crappy teammates it's the marvellosity way nuh-uh, my scum meta is to do what is necessary to win. In LIV when it was just me and froggynoddy after the modkills, I protected him for all I was worth because I needed us both alive. Just as a small note to everyone - despite how we went at each other in the thread, Jingle and I have always gotten on pretty well and that still remains the case. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#1913
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
August 17 2012 19:54 GMT
#1923
i don't even know how you make it non-secret | ||
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