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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 21:26 GMT
#1490
Funny that when Zeph flips scum, Talis the miller have been defending him all game long!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 21:27 GMT
#1493
On August 11 2012 06:25 Hier wrote:
What if Lazer is town? What if potential scum CD picked 2 town players to pretend to have investigations on. How about we lynch Talis today, announce that we are protecting Xsebt with medics, and have him investigate VE. If CD survives the night, that means he is mafia. If he dies, then we get a DT flip, confirming his reads. We then get Xsebt's read on VE, who doesn't die in the night. Sounds good?
No, it can't be that way. He knew my name and I havn't said it in the thread.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 21:31 GMT
#1499
On August 11 2012 06:29 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:27 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:25 Hier wrote:
What if Lazer is town? What if potential scum CD picked 2 town players to pretend to have investigations on. How about we lynch Talis today, announce that we are protecting Xsebt with medics, and have him investigate VE. If CD survives the night, that means he is mafia. If he dies, then we get a DT flip, confirming his reads. We then get Xsebt's read on VE, who doesn't die in the night. Sounds good?
No, it can't be that way. He knew my name and I havn't said it in the thread.

In that case you are both town, with him being DT, or you are both scum. In that case his reads are flipped, if he is lying.
Yes, that was what I and everyone else was saying -.-
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#1509
On August 11 2012 06:34 talismania wrote:
Man it would be sick if zephirdd and dropula were scum together. Scum deserve to win in that case.
Then I also need to be scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 22:13 GMT
#1525
wtf heir you don't make any sense.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 10 2012 22:32 GMT
#1532
On August 11 2012 07:25 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hier: What in the flying fuck?

Zeph dies. Flips Town. We lynch CountDropula followed by Lazermonkey.

Talis dies. Flips Town. We lynch Xsebt followed by Toad.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Why is Xsebt confirmed but CD isn't?

This isn't about the numbers. Zeph flips scum - that's it; CD and Lazer are permanently considered town. It becomes impossible to win as town. It's called bussing.

On the other hand CD thought Talis was mafia, yet with his ridiculously well timed claim he a) took votes off of Talis (why?) and b) exposed himself as a DT to get killed at night, when he could have given town a third read. Doesn't seem suspicious in the slightest?
When Zephirdd flips scum we lynch Talis tomorrow. It's likely that one of the DTs dies tonight so you can stay calm. He will flip DT. You really have nothing to lose.

Ow, I could still be a GF tho. So I guess I'm still not confirmed after Zephirdd lynch but w/e. You will have alot of time to decide whether or nor I am scum as I cannot possibly be lynched before D5.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 11 2012 08:23 GMT
#1577
If there aren't more than 2 DT then it probebly doesn't matter who you check today. 1 will get RB and 1 will most likely get double stacked. However I guess there are a possibilty that scum tries to luck shot one DT + someone else. In that case we just need to pray that the medic(s) chose the right person to protect.

Also, to use Talis WIFOM defense against him, if me, Zeph and Dropula were all scum and you are miller it means that instead of pulling the free misslynch today on you, we decided to fakeclaim DTs in order to buss our scum buddy who wasn't even clse to get lynched? You say it's for massive town cred but why would we do this today and not tomorrow...? Obviously this is by no means a proof of any thing but if Talis is allowed to defend himself with poor logic, so am I.

On August 11 2012 15:07 talismania wrote:
pps toad would you make a setup with 2 DTs, 2 millers and 5 redcheckable scum? Do you really think that's what's going on here is as simple as that there are two DTs with correct redchecks out there?
No, I don't think that. Tbh I think it's likely that we have more than 3 millers as well. But I don't think that you are a miller.

So long story short please ignore Talis untill D4 lynch. He knows he is about to get lynched and just want to fuck with us as much as possible before he dies. If he for some reason actually flips miller, we can start digging in what he have been saying.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 11 2012 21:22 GMT
#1600
On August 12 2012 06:14 talismania wrote:
Fun quotes from sinensis where he actually tells the truth but no one notices:

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 05:44 CountDropula wrote:
The pressing nature of the game...

Means my plans must be revealed 
Before the time is right.



What do you think about that, lazermonkey? :-)

And to repost this from Hier because it needs to be seen because holy shit lol:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 10:49 CountDropula wrote:
Well, preparing my play has been... Consuming much of my energy, and it has been so long in the making that it simply must be done justice!

Apparently the actors refuse to wear anything but red...

Ah yes, there is the matter of my vote...

##Vote: Zephirdd

One step towards a win for the audience,
One step towards the bus stop for you...


Seriously, what townie DT puts that line in there? There are tons of idioms in the english language that express the idea of something coming to the end or being finished. But he goes with "One step towards the bus stop for you..." with the reference I guess to zephirdd getting on bus out of town or something? It doesn't even make sense with his puppeteer act, if you still believe CD is a new eccentric player and not sinensis. Then you say "One step towards the curtain closing..." or something. "One step towards your swan song..." etc. And it doesn't fit at all with "One step towards a win for the audience" semantically, despite the phrasing indicating that the two lines are a couplet. Plus the suggestive ellipsis. I mean I don't know how to spell it out any more and maybe I don't need to. Just look at that lol.

Lol, talis. Just Lol.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 11 2012 21:44 GMT
#1602
Well, you called me and CD scum so you obviously aren't speaking the truth. I'm sorry but all your arguments are either not even arguements or based on the most insane WIFOM there is. There are no scum hunting here. Using arguments like yours could make everyone look scum. How you and Heir are able to use the fact that CD used the word ''buss'' as a reason for him to be scum IS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING. You aren't spending time scum hunting, you are shitting up the thread with shit. I am going to bed in just a moment but if people really feel like there is even a point in arguing against you then I can gladly do that tomorrow. Why am I convinced that I will survive untill tomorrow? Because shooting me is probebly the worst alternative of all remaining members of town(maybe not including some of the lurkers). If scum shoot me tonight, it's a benefit for town as you will be a dead guy when the lynch happends.

If your town I am litterly sad IRL because you don't make any sense what so ever. But you claim to be good as town so thus you must be scum by your own logic.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 12 2012 17:23 GMT
#1647
Lolwut, Talis was actually miller? Well that changes alot of things. I'm guessing that we have an infinite bullet Vigi as we've had 3 NKs two nights in a row and grush was probebly not a scum kill as well. We probebly don't got a medic unless it's Marv.

Probebly town
toadesstern: Me and Toad are either GF or scum. We cannot both be scum but we can both be town as well as one town one GF. I don't think he is scum but on the other hand people keep saying that he is hard to read and wouldn't that be the optimal person to give GF to? Still have a very hard time to belive that Toad would NOT push Talis if he was scum because it was essentially a free misslynch because he would know Talis is a miller. However, both s0lstice and WBG were suspicious of Toad before they died, which is a little bit funny considering that Toad was using the argument ''Everyone who died thought I was town'' before that. Still, Toad hold as town for me.
Hier: have been using the most terrible logic I've ever seen. Were very clear that he thought Talis were town at the end, however he still wanted Talis OVER zephirdd. What's up with all this flip flopping? Still I'm quite heavily leaning towards town on this guy for his crazy bad case on CD just hours before CD was NKed. He is putting himself in a very bad situation which he could've avoided easily as scum.

Loldunno
Glasse: No fucking idea.
Synstyr: same as Glasse
Jingle: I was pretty much basing my whole town read on him because he was pressuring Talis so hard since the start and I was soo convinced Talis was scum. But now that Talis died I really don't know. I think his logic is quite flawed in many situations but it was the same when I played him in NMM XX and he was town then so I can't read too much into that as well.
BKE: No fucking idea.
Marv: It's certainly a possiblity that Marv thought Talis was dead no matter what so he could just soft defend him a bit and get town cred. Because he wasn't really putting too much effort in defending Talis either. Zeph was dead no matter what also. The way he even said that we should give him MORE town cred for that is imo alarming. Also he was super pushy about Toad outing the DT. This may be us having twisted opinions but I really think town would've benefitted more from NOT outing Xsebt. Other than that, his reads and play have made perfect sense. Overall leaning sliiightly scum on Marv

Scum
Hassybaby: He have posted so little but the only content he have posted points towards him being scum.
VE: My opinion about VE have been flipping back and forth. I started of thinking he was scum but when him and Talis started go nuts on each other I actually thought that he was town for a moment. However now that Talis actually was town I'm back thinking he is scum :D. Talis actually posted a case on him a while back.

The Joker
Hopeless: Reading through his filter, I really see few attempts to scum hunt. He have been discussing blues, stating obvious things and asking questions but havn't really been following them up. Why did I put him here then? Well the only person he have been suspicious of is VE and I think VE is scum. Would it really make sense for him to have his only scum read on his buddy? Still, if VE ever flips town, I think Hopeless is scum.

To Jingle: If you havn't masoned someone yet, feel free to mason me. I am not sure what to think of you and you seemed a bit suspicious of me yesterday as well.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#1650
On August 13 2012 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 02:23 Lazermonkey wrote:
Marv: Zeph was dead no matter what also. The way he even said that we should give him MORE town cred for that is imo alarming.


This is getting boring. Go take a look at the Vote thread. See how many votes Zephirdd had before I voted for him. See how fast the votes came in for Zephirdd after I voted for him.
But he had a fucking red check on himself. And he didn't even try to argue his way out of it like Talismania did. He almost admitted defeat, threw a random vote on CD withour a reason and went away. I don't buy this argument as a reason for you being town.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#1652
Ow, right. I forgot to include Zentor :D. I was on him earlier for not making any sense at all/being an active lurker. Everyone told me that his meta is like that and noone wanted to vote him except for me. I've never played with him before and don't really bother to go back and check his older games tho. I still think he is suspicious but if he always plays like this then I really dunno what to think.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 12 2012 17:41 GMT
#1654
On August 13 2012 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
And town was gonna lynch talis first anyways.

Get over yourself, I don't need to prove I'm town to you, mr kill-townie-talis-with-fire.
In that case Vigi would probebly have shot Zeph tho. So it didn't really matter.

Also, you were the one who responded to my post saying this game is boring etc. Also, do you think I'm scum for pushing Talis? Or do you think I'm scum at all?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 12 2012 17:42 GMT
#1656
On August 13 2012 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
aren't you practically confirmed town??
No, I could be GF.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#1667
Sooo, we kill VE I guess? I can live with that!

##Vote: Ve
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 13 2012 09:53 GMT
#1668
Ow, and Marv. Why did you not tell us that VE masoned you earlier?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 13 2012 12:32 GMT
#1672
On August 13 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 20:24 Toadesstern wrote:
still a little unsure about VE to be honest. I'd rather see some people who don't usually talk a lot talk about the pros and cons of a VE lynch and why they think lynching VE is the best move right now if they're voting him.

I think I already said enough the last couple of days and we desperately need everyone to join the discussion so gogo.


mostly right now we need people to sheep me/talis
Sorry for noob question but what does sheep mean?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#1757
BKE: Where are your scum reads? Looking through your filter this is the attempts to scum hunt I can find:

You were suspicious of Errandor. This is the only time you've ever done an actual case on someone
You were suspicious of Dropula but didn't push his lynch the slightest.
You are suspicious of Glasse but doesn't push his lynch the slightest.
You are suspicious of Zentor but doesn't push his lynch the slightest.
You flip-flop alot about VE, finally deciding to vote him. You don't push him a single bit, however when he is finally lynched you write this:
On August 15 2012 01:57 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 00:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 14 2012 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
i'll quite happily sit back, do jack shit, and let town burn, if you want, toad.

That's not it.
It's just that the reasoning for lynching WBG and Prplhz came down to "they should be better than what they showed us".
The reasoning for lynching Zeph and VE always has been "they're weird, not necessarily scummy yet but they somehow manage to get these weird phrases in their posts that really sound like they're not town and they do that a lot. Not sure what to make of it though".

At least that has been the reasoning for me (check my mason-logs, I mentioned it a couple of times when talking about Zeph I think) when judging them and you're starting to give me the same feeling VE and Zephirdd gave me, unlike WBG, prplhz and Talis did.

Keep doing what you're doing
If I'm wrong neither of us is going to get shot and we're both happy, aren't we? :p

VE wasnt playing to his town meta, at all. Even when he isnt as active, he seems to try more than he did in this game. In all he made two cases and his scum hunting felt suboptimal for VE. He sounded a bit too apologetic at the Erandorr lynch.
My spider senses are tingeling! Now you sound like VE was obvious scum even though you were very unsure of his alignment before the lynch. It's like your trying to take town cred for the VE lynch.

Also, you never answered all of Hopeless case against you, just one bit of it. You have clearly seen the case yet you don't answer to some bits of it. Why is that? If you don't agree with the accusations against you, tell us why.

To Vigis: I'm assuming there is an infinite shot vigialante in this game, although I could be wrong. I recomend you to shoot BKE, although I'm okay with shooting Hassy as well. Even if you don't agree with me I strongly recomend you to at least shoot someone. It's essential that we get the number of scum from 3 to 2 as fast as possible so that we can decrease their KP.

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#1760
On August 15 2012 03:42 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 03:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2012 01:57 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On August 15 2012 00:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 14 2012 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
i'll quite happily sit back, do jack shit, and let town burn, if you want, toad.

That's not it.
It's just that the reasoning for lynching WBG and Prplhz came down to "they should be better than what they showed us".
The reasoning for lynching Zeph and VE always has been "they're weird, not necessarily scummy yet but they somehow manage to get these weird phrases in their posts that really sound like they're not town and they do that a lot. Not sure what to make of it though".

At least that has been the reasoning for me (check my mason-logs, I mentioned it a couple of times when talking about Zeph I think) when judging them and you're starting to give me the same feeling VE and Zephirdd gave me, unlike WBG, prplhz and Talis did.

Keep doing what you're doing
If I'm wrong neither of us is going to get shot and we're both happy, aren't we? :p

VE wasnt playing to his town meta, at all. Even when he isnt as active, he seems to try more than he did in this game. In all he made two cases and his scum hunting felt suboptimal for VE. He sounded a bit too apologetic at the Erandorr lynch.

So where does that leave us? Why is that information beneficial? How does that assist us in finding scum? I can't even tell who, or even if your are trying to defend/attack someone in this post.

I read that post as Toad asking why VE was lynched for being wierd. Just wanted to clear the air. Discussion doesn't hurt right?
If you do it with the expense of giving your scum reads, the yes I think it does hurt town
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#1761
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