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On August 05 2012 08:17 BroodKingEXE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 08:12 talismania wrote:On August 05 2012 08:07 BroodKingEXE wrote:On August 05 2012 07:58 talismania wrote:this is a post that is just for fun and should not be read if you don't want to be distracted + Show Spoiler +
ok bc refused to give me the names of characters in the game. But there aren't that many characters in mad men so I thought why not just make my own little setup for fun. We'll see how much of this ends up being right, if at all:
1 Primary characters
1.1 Don Draper - Vigilante (for firing people) or Townie Miller (because he isn't who he says he is)
1.2 Peggy Olson - Medic
1.3 Pete Campbell - Mafia
1.4 Betty Francis (Betty Draper) - Townie Mason?
1.5 Joan Harris (Joan Holloway) - Medic
1.6 Roger Sterling - Veteran
2 Supporting characters
2.1 Trudy Campbell - Townie
2.2 Bert Cooper - Townie Mason
2.3 Ken Cosgrove - Townie Mason
2.4 Harry Crane - Townie
2.5 Bobby Draper - Townie
2.6 Gene Draper - Townie
2.7 Megan Draper - Townie Mason
2.8 Sally Draper - Townie
2.9 Henry Francis - Townie
2.10 Michael Ginsberg - Townie
2.11 Paul Kinsey - Townie Miller
2.12 Duck Phillips - Mafia
2.13 Lane Pryce - Detective
2.14 Stan Rizzo - Townie
2.15 Sal Romano - Townie
2.16 Freddy Rumsen - Townie
3 Other characters
3.1 Allison - Townie
3.2 Joey Baird - Townie
3.3 Jimmy and Bobbie Barrett - Mafia
3.4 Glen Bishop - Townie Miller
3.5 Helen Bishop - Mafia
3.6 Ida Blankenship - Townie
3.7 Andrew and Dorothy Campbell
3.8 Bud and Judy Campbell
3.9 Tammy Campbell
3.10 Émile and Marie Calvet
3.11 Carla
3.12 Dawn Chambers
3.13 Ted Chaough - Mafia
3.14 Toni Charles
3.15 Cynthia Cosgrove
3.16 Jennifer Crane
3.17 Midge Daniels
3.18 Anna Draper
3.19 Abe Drexler
3.20 Suzanne Farrell
3.21 Lee Garner, Sr.
3.22 Lee Garner, Jr. - Mafia
3.23 Father Gill
3.24 Francine Hanson
3.25 Greg Harris - Mafia
3.26 Conrad Hilton - Vigilante?
3.27 Gene Hofstadt
3.28 William and Judy Hofstadt
3.29 Hollis
3.30 Gail Holloway
3.31 John Hooker
3.32 Edna Keener
3.33 Gloria Massey
3.34 Rachel Menken
3.35 Faye Miller
3.36 Katherine Olson and Anita Olson Respola
3.37 Phoebe
3.38 St. John Powell - Mafia
3.39 Rebecca Pryce
3.40 Robert Pryce
3.41 Joyce Ramsay
3.42 Lois Sadler
3.43 Danny Siegel
3.44 "Smitty" Smith and Kurt Smith
3.45 Jane Sterling
3.46 Margaret Sterling
3.47 Mona Sterling
3.48 Brooks Stanford Hargrove
3.49 Bethany Van Nuys
3.50 Tom and Jeannie Vogel
3.51 Arnold Wayne
3.52 Adam Whitman
3.53 Archie Whitman
This sort of stuff needs to come after the game. Ive so far found your posts to be sub-optimal town play. At this point Im against a prphlz for the reasons that his case had merit and he has been afk for a long time. In the past this is how bandwagons on Day 1 have started. Im examining those who have been throwing around their votes so far. 1) It's just a little side-game, like sidebets in poker purely for my own amusement. 2) I've so far found your posts oh wait I haven't found any of your posts because you haven't made any You're going to try and nail me for real life issues? GL. My description of your filter is asking BC for the name list and if WBG will be modkilled for self-voting.
I ain't doing no "nailing". Just can't resist a cheap shot :-)
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He replaced ghost.
so who was prp? I can play my sidebet game if people's char names are revealed =P
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Ok so
1) Medics protect sloosh tonight. If I were mafia I would kill him. He's always Captain America with the town, gathering votes together, keeping things on track. He's active and has generally solid analysis. Plus he's on me, so him dying makes it easy to push my lynch, and then boom two active townies are down the drain. So protect him.
2) Logs, bitches. VE we need yours with WBG. Toad you have promised to post yours pre-dawn as well. Sloosh and dropula, no need to hide anymore.
Other things uh dunno. I have a hunch glasse is one of the people masoned with toad at the moment. I think all the latecomers to the game should come up with something original to say.
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On August 05 2012 10:38 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 10:27 talismania wrote:
Ok so
1) Medics protect sloosh tonight. If I were mafia I would kill him. He's always Captain America with the town, gathering votes together, keeping things on track. He's active and has generally solid analysis. Plus he's on me, so him dying makes it easy to push my lynch, and then boom two active townies are down the drain. So protect him.
Silly talismania, directing medics at night? Town aligned players aren't supposed to play like very inexperienced mafia players. Fix your wording quickly before anybody sees.
No. Protect sloosh, end of story.
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On August 05 2012 10:59 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 10:53 talismania wrote:On August 05 2012 10:38 Hier wrote:On August 05 2012 10:27 talismania wrote:
Ok so
1) Medics protect sloosh tonight. If I were mafia I would kill him. He's always Captain America with the town, gathering votes together, keeping things on track. He's active and has generally solid analysis. Plus he's on me, so him dying makes it easy to push my lynch, and then boom two active townies are down the drain. So protect him.
Silly talismania, directing medics at night? Town aligned players aren't supposed to play like very inexperienced mafia players. Fix your wording quickly before anybody sees. No. Protect sloosh, end of story. Solid reasoning. I'm sold.
Deliberately needling? You very well know I posted the reasoning before. What are your thoughts on my alignment?
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Glasse post a read on someone other than wbg.
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On August 05 2012 11:32 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 11:25 talismania wrote:
Glasse post a read on someone other than wbg. Can you pick for me? I cant decide.
How about toad?
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You might also ask him to shed light on his vote for me, whom he never mentioned in the thread.
And his vote on prp, which followed with no comment.
The answer is likely that he's mason'd with someone, my bet is sloosh based on his vote patterns and vote timings.
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Are you a smurf or just new?
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On August 03 2012 03:02 Synystyr wrote:
Yay it's started! GL HF to everyone, I'm really excited about this ^_^
I know we all told you before the game that if you don't post a lot we'll lynch you. You are doing that classic thing where you're "really excited" and then proceed to make two more posts for the entire day phase. What's up?
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On August 03 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 03 2012 19:25 prplhz wrote:
@Toadesstern Could you explain that post? First you write random letters in red and then you ask me "if you had to make different groups" which I don't understand at all. I don't put people in "vet" groups, there are people who have established meta behavioral patterns and who should be watched closely (or not watched closely) if they deviate, but there isn't any player in this game who has a reputation for single handedly ruining scum teams on a regular basis. Yeah when I posted that I read the thread the first time and colored names the way I thought about them when reading through. Actually if VE were to be someone else than VE his name would completly red and nt just semi red because VE does some STRANGE things from time to time. Anyways, copy & paste here I come: + Show Spoiler [VE] +(Pregame!): clicky! I'm joking around, he picks up the joke, Marv does so as well but VE isn't getting that Marv's just joking around when it was preeeetty obvious. Seems like he's nervous to me? Or was that some kind of anti-joke I'm not getting?  Clicky! Looks kind of try-hard to me. Obviously Zeph is fooling around or at least (if he's mafia) trying to make it look like he's carelessly fooling around. I doubt this honestly was an attempt to get a random lynch. It would be fine if VE pointed that out but the 2nd paragraph is weird. Why does he have to rub that in everyone's faces? "LOOK GUYS I DON'T WANT TO RND-LYNCH BECAUSE THAT's BAD". No shit sherlock. Yet he feels the urge to tell everyone about that. Looks to me like someone desperatly trying to get townie-points. But this is VE, he does weird shit every time so idk... Clicky! Big shiny text about how masons should claim. I totally disagree with him. It was a desaster in L. We lost a complete cycle, got no advantage, everyone eneded up being paranoid because obviously one group (pro-claim or anti-claim) had to be mentally retarded or scum to be stupid enough to not agree with ones self conclusion according to everyone in the game. Clicky! The big thing, with multiple [big]'s and in his most recent post was "MASON CLAIMS". Not "MASONS CLAIM MAYBE?" or something else, it was Mason claims. Now he proceeds to tell people he doesn't think it's a good idea for masons to claim and only wanted to talk about the idea? The fuck?Talis on the other hand is a guy who usually ends up posting what he thinks about the game d1 in an honest way, no matter of alignment. Remember PYP? Talis was the guy who told people to encrypt their shit. He's the kind of guy that thinks about the set-up ahead of time and then proceeds to post his thoughts about it no matter of alignment. I think he genuinely believes in what he posted, but what he posted is incredible stupid. So he either didn't think this trough or he thinks it's best to change his "conclusion" in some kind of way. What he posted makes little to no sense to me and that feels off because as mentioned I'm pretty sure he usually means what he posts d1 no matter of alignment. [b]Still making notes about everything and I'm at talis's post right now, so that's why I had to improvise something right now :p
Re-reading the thread while I have the thread to myself at night and noticed this. I actually think the whole post is pretty townish but do you mind posting these notes (assuming you take them on your computer)? At least up to that point in the game, if you don't want to reveal later notes that give away your mason friends or whatnot.
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On August 04 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I'd rather hunt for scum than defend myself, so I masoned a veteran in as a shortcut to establishing my innocence with him if he's town so he can smack down anyone (Toad) who thinks I'm scum for stupid-ass reasons.
Also if he's scum, I wanted a private line with him in case he felt like telling me all about it in PMs. So far he hasn't. :/
Him instantly outting me wasn't something I'd considered. I figured he'd talk to me about it first. I have a long way to go in understanding Bugs' play.
Want to follow up on this more...
this was really your thought process in picking bugs? I want to get someone to protect me? you say that you'd "rather hunt for scum" yet I don't see any scumhunting from you after this.
Furthermore,
1) your logs with wbg please. (PMs too)
2) why are you playing tighter and less actively? I'm used to reading games of you as a fast-paced loose townie. This feels different -- restrained.
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On August 05 2012 03:16 CountDropula wrote:
I really think the most important issue for us right now is getting people active. Were giving mafia too much space to hide.
Nevertheless, I'm voting wbg right now though that can change.
For sure watching zeph though, but I need a better case.
quoting for fans of irony everywhere
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On August 05 2012 06:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
I absolutely don't want to mislynch so I'm all for consolidating my vote.
On wbg. perhaps I'm missing something due to not knowing his meta at all, but that part of the discussion went right over my head. Based on what I've seen in this game, I think he's town. It was a strange play to immediately out masons without telling them, but I don't think it can be conclusively anti-town. Creating sub-par targets for KP is the biggest benefit I see.
Right now that seems to leave Grush, Talis and prplhz for current lynch candidates (of people I'd be willing to lynch).
I don't know what grush is, but everyone seems happy to let a vig take care of him if we have one and his death doesn't give us anything to go on other than perhaps a quieter environment to play. I don't think he's worth wasting a lynch on today.
Talis has been undoubtedly more active than prplhz, but about as useful in the active discussions of the thread. He posts requesting reads from other people without contributing any of own. His filter contains many posts pertaining to setup questions (i.e. more than once) and in general it looks like he's skirting the sidelines of the conversations. Despite his relative activity, I don't really know who he might vote for or who he is really suspicious of anymore.
Prplhz got some vote pressure done early on, and has since disappeared into hangover land. I really don't see how this is considered so very scummy, and I don't see enough of a case to justify voting for him yet. Still, he's scummier than bugs so I may end up switching my vote to avoid wbg's lynch.
##Vote: talismania
were there others you were willing to lynch? what about people you were unwilling to lynch?
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reposting to guarantee Hier sees it
On August 05 2012 11:08 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 10:59 Hier wrote:On August 05 2012 10:53 talismania wrote:On August 05 2012 10:38 Hier wrote:On August 05 2012 10:27 talismania wrote:
Ok so
1) Medics protect sloosh tonight. If I were mafia I would kill him. He's always Captain America with the town, gathering votes together, keeping things on track. He's active and has generally solid analysis. Plus he's on me, so him dying makes it easy to push my lynch, and then boom two active townies are down the drain. So protect him.
Silly talismania, directing medics at night? Town aligned players aren't supposed to play like very inexperienced mafia players. Fix your wording quickly before anybody sees. No. Protect sloosh, end of story. Solid reasoning. I'm sold. Deliberately needling? You very well know I posted the reasoning before. What are your thoughts on my alignment?
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summary thoughts after re-reading:
toad has moved from scummy to townie in my head. many small things that suggest more effort than I see him putting in as scum.
VE I think is scum both from his attitude, his lack of promised scumhunting, and the reason he picked for voting me.
Hassybaby I think is scum for being too cautious sounding and not actually contributing novel stuff. He also gets baited by my setup talk.
xsebt is default scum in my mind until he does something besides show up and make one incredibly wishy-washy post near deadline.
wbg has an outside chance of being scum and wanting to sacrifice himself for some reason but I actually think he's more likely to be town.
strongandbig and jinglehell both need to stop digging their tunnels and talk about other stuff for a while. jingle in particular has moved from town to neutral for his odd persistence.
hopeless1der makes scummy posts but overall seems townie to me. Like his post composition soudns like scum, but what he's doing seems townlike. In particular the part where he said he was going to check into zephirdd and then he actually did.
synystyr I think is scum until proven innocent for his excitement/activity discrepancy.
I have my eye on glasse/dropula even though both are sort of loosely in my neutral/town category in my mind. I'm eager to see their promised activity in the future. From glasse, his promised read on toad. And from dropula, living up to this call to action for a more active thread.
I think that's it, time for bed.
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Two things to keep in mind:
1) Forget WBG. If he wants to play, he'll play and we can go from there. If he wants to die, he'll vote for himself again and get modkilled.
2) Something I realized yesterday when my making my fake setup: scum got to pick their own roles. This isn't that useful yet given that all four known masons (VE, Erandorr, Toad, and Hassy) are people who conceivably would want to have the mason role.
Actually there's a third thing now that I'm thinking about it,
3) DTs! Please strongly consider checking into one of VE/Hassy. Or if you don't agree with me, at least check one of the masons
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VisceraEyes
Respond to this please:
On August 05 2012 17:16 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I'd rather hunt for scum than defend myself, so I masoned a veteran in as a shortcut to establishing my innocence with him if he's town so he can smack down anyone (Toad) who thinks I'm scum for stupid-ass reasons.
Also if he's scum, I wanted a private line with him in case he felt like telling me all about it in PMs. So far he hasn't. :/
Him instantly outting me wasn't something I'd considered. I figured he'd talk to me about it first. I have a long way to go in understanding Bugs' play. Want to follow up on this more... this was really your thought process in picking bugs? I want to get someone to protect me? you say that you'd "rather hunt for scum" yet I don't see any scumhunting from you after this. Furthermore, 1) your logs with wbg please. (PMs too) 2) why are you playing tighter and less actively? I'm used to reading games of you as a fast-paced loose townie. This feels different -- restrained.
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Toad Still would like to see those game notes of yours just to confirm that you were taking them
Hassybaby That goes for you too. Let's see your game notes :3
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