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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 19:21 GMT
#989
Yeah dunno why I'm bothering to play right now if the response I get to that post is a fucking vote on me.

You can have fun with the 10 lurkers in this game who are likely to be shielding at least half the scum. Town is fucked.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 19:35 GMT
#993
I don't care about what either of Eran or VE flip because this game is already fucked unless you acknowledge that more than half the playerbase is scummy lurkers.

If there are reasons Xsebt is town I haven't noticed (such as the RB thing) then ignore him.

What has BioSC done? Glasse? BKE? That hopeless guy? Hassy? hier? Synystyr?

If you're telling me you don't want to lynch any of these guys then you're not town. If you don't accept that mafia are among or being shielded by these players, then you have no interest in town winning.

At the current state of the game, it is unwinnable for town because so many people are unreadable and those who are at least decently unreadable are not willing to do anything about it. By the end of tonight talis is dead if he's town and then there goes 90% of our direction and willingness to do shit.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 19:36 GMT
#994
Man there's no cases to make WHEN HALF THE PLAYERS HAVE NO POSTS.

Why bother killing an active person when just by being active they're more pro town than most everyone else?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 19:48 GMT
#998
On August 08 2012 04:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 04:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Man there's no cases to make WHEN HALF THE PLAYERS HAVE NO POSTS.

Why bother killing an active person when just by being active they're more pro town than most everyone else?

I wouldn't consider you that active either. And I already said I'd rather not lynch into vets today and instead prefere a Hassy / broodking / Zentor / bioSC / synystyr / zephirdd lynch but noone else seems to agree with that


I don't consider myself active at all. I've already explained why I'm not going to be as active as I am normally.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 19:54 GMT
#1000
Go for it, I won't stop you.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 20:21 GMT
#1002
yeah it's probably a byproduct of me thinking anyone who does something immensely stupid is town. That and me thinking Erandorr's lazinesss is a scum trait (it might not be)

on rereading I actually think I agree with talismania's reads. I liked his synystr case and his thoughts on VE are forcing me to rethink.

I'll be back in a few.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 20:36 GMT
#1004
I take what I just said back. I don't like the synystr case. I don't think talismania is a good target to sheep.

Sloosh is much better.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 20:37 GMT
#1005
and oh damn sloosh is dead.

well hmmm...

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 20:40 GMT
#1008
On August 08 2012 05:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 05:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
I take what I just said back. I don't like the synystr case. I don't think talismania is a good target to sheep.

Sloosh is much better.

do you take it back because talis is the one who did although you agreed with it in the first place or are you saying you take it back beceause you didn't read it in the first place, but needed to say something and now that you've read it you realize that town-WBG wouldn't sheep that?

Or was it simply a "guys, sloOsh flipped green, he said he doesn't want to lynch me ergo am I town" statement for the sake of stating that you are town?


I don't understand what you're asking?

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 20:50 GMT
#1014
yeah I changed my opinion because talis's post was good but it didn't line up with my opinion of synystr based on rereading a couple of posts.

I could be wrong, sure, but I trust my own opinion over that of someone else's.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 22:24 GMT
#1044
On August 08 2012 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man, slOosh was like, TOTALLY sure I was town. I guess no one finds it...ODD that one of his stronger town-reads just HAPPENS to be one of the lynch candidates today...the day AFTER he's not around to smack the shit out of the wagon leaders HOLY PISS THE WAGON LEADERS ARE SLOOSH'S SCUMREADS WELL TARNATION!! Now that is a coincidence. You know what else is a coincidence? The fact that Erandorr happened to flipflop on me after my read on him and after slOosh flipped town. That's a coincidence too, surely.

BUT HEY, KEEP DOIN WHAT YOU'RE DOIN GUYS IT'S WORKING OUT! I PROMISE!


even if you're scum, don't try reasoning with these guys.

They can't understand the most basic of logic. It's fruitless.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 07 2012 23:34 GMT
#1064
I don't want to kill either Erandorr or VE right now. The cases just aren't satisfying to me. In fact most of the stuff on VE is total shit. (and if he's scum I bet he's pissed for the shitty way he's getting lynched right now)

The above is only mentioned once by WBG. This is how I see it: WBG has been playing on the mafia side often, and wanted to play town for a long time. He now has exams and would like to concentrate on them, instead of playing mafia. CB, however, drags him into this game because of some favour and gives him the town role. WBG gets pissed off because he got the alignment he wanted, but at the worst possible moment. He doesn’t have time to concentrate on mafia and truly let his town skills shine. Further, two people mason him, one of which is Erandorr; the person that very frequently tunnels him in mafia games (stated by him on multiple occasions). This pisses WBG off even further; he didn’t care about this game to begin with, and now has to fend off a barrage of players poking at his brain, against which he cannot show his best town play because he is preoccupied with exams. And as far as I could tell, WBG prizes his reputation as a good mafia player very highly (Mafia 47 wasn’t his best foot).


I'm more busy than expected. I wanted to play town, but I didn't want to deal with bs.

Day 1 was nothing but bs. Like really, when Erandorr called me scum for the worst reasons possible, when I refuted every single point repeatedly (I was repeating myself over and over) and people sided with him, I had just had enough. I raged at him super hard in PMs because all he was doing was calling me scum in PMs. Like oh look, I think you're scum so I'm going to mason you so I can call you scum in PMs too.

There was literally no point to Erandorr masoning me other than to call me scum in PMs, because he had already made his mind up. So there's no convincing someone like that, then the point of the game is gone.

On August 08 2012 07:40 strongandbig wrote:
ugh whatever going to bed

this game is frustrating no one posts and everything is stupid.

idk but if erandorr was scum why wouldn't he have moved his vote onto ve it was totally justifiable but its on wbg which doesn't make sense as any alignment but maybe as town he ragequit whereas if he was scum he would have been pretending i think

idk fuck it im going to bed


why do you think I said "fuck it all" yesterday? No one uses their brain in this game.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 08 2012 00:17 GMT
#1070
well here's the problem:

what if Erandorr is town?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 08 2012 07:56 GMT
#1115
On August 08 2012 11:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
As promised...here is a picture of me eating my hat. Or more accurately, the hood of my FAVORITE MARIO BROS HOODIE! I hope you're satisfied. X(

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LOL

<3 VE

+ Show Spoiler +
also as for LoL I've been playing LoL with friends from school here late at nights after coding sessions...mostly otherwise I play dota nowadays though. If you ever wanna play just hit me up



On August 08 2012 12:20 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 08 2012 09:22 s0Lstice wrote:
as it stands right now, I think Eran is set to be lynched anyway. Plurality right?

The problem I have with Erandorr stems from what bugs says about him. He calls him scum in all the games they are in together, regardless of evidence. It doesn't surprise me therefore that in this game, where he has a blue-ish role, that it was targeted at bugs. If he was a vig, he'd have shot him. If he was a DT, he would have checked him. If he was mason...etc etc. This would all be done regardless of information in the thread that ran counter to his read on bugs.


Except the point is not that he targeted Bugs alone - it's that he targeted Bugs knowing he would out him as mason. He can say he didn't know Bugs would do that all he wants, but he claims the reason he did it was to see if he'd do it again, implying that he saw him do it once before. I can't imagine that he would think Bugs would out me as mason and not him - he had to know what Bugs was going to do.

@Bugs
If Erand flips town, I'll literally eat my hat. ()

Dont lie. Eran outed himself there was no intention for him to get WBG to out him again. If that's your whole case against Eran, it's pretty shitty to vote for them.


you should die for this.

It's one thing to say this during the day when someone is pushing a case. It's a completely different story to come out against a person AFTER the result has already flipped.

You haven't been acting quite yourself. Your play isn't as what I remember it from LVI. You scum bro?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 08 2012 07:58 GMT
#1116
wait a minute.

BKE VOTED Erandorr. Man you're full of shit, attacking VE for voting Erandorr for that reason when you sheeped him
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#1181
On August 09 2012 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
have all conversations this game been this retarded?


On August 09 2012 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
it was my breadcrumb, donkeyface.

anyway i mostly followed day 1 and kinda tapered off day 2 so have some catching up to do.

my preliminary reads coming in are that talis is town

wbg is scum for his case on grush


speak for yourself
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 08 2012 23:20 GMT
#1183
BKE and Glasse are probably scum btw.

BKE for actively lurking (tons of examples of this) and calling out VE on his Erandorr case when he agreed with it.

Glasse for basically the same and his overall tone is completely scummy.

Remaining 3 scum are going to be impossible to find because this town has already lost.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 09 2012 00:09 GMT
#1189
so Glasse, BKE, Toad, possibly talismania, and maybe someone random like Zephirdd or marv are scum.

Welp.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 09 2012 00:15 GMT
#1190
On August 09 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Let's kill grush. As long as he trolls he's a detriment and certainly the only thing he actually does as scum is troll. Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game, just as he wasn't in LV.

##vote grush57


Remembering the post-discussion conversation in obs in LVI. There was conversation about pinning grush's alignment. grush trolls no matter which alignment he plays, and the distinguishing factor is that when he's town he at least makes reads with his 'starsenses'.

This was recently and it was you who were talking about it.

You CANNOT therefore say, with clear conscience that "Pretty sure given his first post he's not town this game", because of your own meta metric on him, that would not be enough to make any kind of read on him. It's bullshit.

Further to this you made a non-pushed case on Xsebt, and apart from that you've shat up the thread. Pretty sure you're scum.


I didn't comment on his starsense bullshit.

I said he at least tries to contribute. He didn't contribute jack shit.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 09 2012 00:16 GMT
#1191
and finally, triple post ftw.

why would I bother contributing cases on players when there is no "case" to be found? There are like 15 players doing absolutely nothing. once you guys kill me you're going to be just as in the dark as you were before, because all of you are so bad you can't tell that scum literally have to do nothing to win.
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