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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 19:51 GMT
#573
On August 05 2012 04:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 04:46 talismania wrote:
Toad what do you think about glasse's and dropula's votes?

Completely cool with you?

kind of, although I'd slightly prefere prplhz's name in there.


You're a fan of voting without posting, then? Good solid play, in your book?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 19:52 GMT
#574
On August 05 2012 04:48 slOosh wrote:
talismania has shown 0 interest in relevant thread matters and is picking at useless information. The fact that he is active and posting is actually a strike against him because it shows that he has the time / effort but is investing it in irrelevant matters.


oh I figured it out you masoned dropula or dropula masoned you.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:07 GMT
#584
sloosh just mason me tomorrow and we can chat this through if you like :-)

starting to doubt my read on toad. Well it depends. If none of wbg prp or I are scum and toad is then he's free to do whatever, including consolidating on me later if he wants.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#587
fwiw prp does look really scummy. Not to mess with your calculations or anything.

so we're up to four masons total? Maybe 5 if I'm right about sloosh/dropula?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#589
actually that's a legit point toad who do think is scummiest: VE, Eran, Mason A, Mason B (A and B masoned you)? Do you think all of them are town?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:16 GMT
#590
On August 05 2012 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:11 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, my play has not been the best given the fucktard that won't stop tunneling me for no reason at all.

Normally I'd be completely fine with some idiot tunneling me but the fact that I'm low on patience coupled with other people agreeing with his terrible reasoning is enough to make me want to not play anymore.

Seriously if you think I am scum, when I flip town go read some new player guides. Especially Erandorr, you never do anything in any of the games you sign up for except lurk and complain other people are bad when you are worse than all of them. Then you think so highly of yourself that you are capable of catching me (you aren't) when you don't even know basic scumhunting.

Here's a hint: calling me scum every game is not you being able to catch me regardless of what I flipped in the past. It's just you falling head over heels for confirmation bias because you think results make you good.


jesus fucking christ get over yourself and get over erandorr.

if you are town then:
- your decision to out the masons without explaining it was terrible
- your explanations for it were terrible
- your vote on grush was terrible

After that I am not going to sit here and take you calling me bad for thinking you're scum.


You thinking a difference in opinion makes someone scum = terrible. None of the things you mentioned are remotely bad in the first place.


In all seriousness your fatalism is troubling. I know I tried getting myself lynched in your game because I had family coming into town and an exam and all sorts of stuff about four days after the game started and I figured I might as well just bus my teammates or get bussed by them and let them win it in that case. Is this what's going on with your exam situation?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#593
Is voting for yourself (stated in the OP specifically against the rules) grounds for modkill? Would it be considered playing against your win condition, and therefore grounds for further punitive action?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 21:24 GMT
#611
haven't read pg 31 yet but wanted to interject something quickly

I haven't heard a response from BC yet but if WBG keeps his vote on himself I don't see why anyone else should vote for him. He will be modkilled and maybe worse for breaking the rules of the game, so there's no point to vote for him if he's not going to change his mind.

In fact, WBG you might as well just quit the game if that's how you feel. Getting yourself lynched/modkilled wastes town's time, and if you want to help town by removing yourself as a distraction, then quit and town get get on with lynching me or prp or whatever.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 21:27 GMT
#614
On August 05 2012 06:07 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:48 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:38 slOosh wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:36 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:57 slOosh wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:53 strongandbig wrote:
On August 05 2012 04:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also the people who think I willingly brought attention to myself are funny. I didn't fully think of the repercussions when I outted the masons in terms of thread presence but I also didn't account for the fact that many people who have different opinions will consider opposing viewpoints as scummy (because they are incapable of understanding that different does not mean scum)

if you're town then your play this game has been fucking terrible. i guess maybe you have irl shit but that's really the only explanation i could accept for why you've been playing the way you have instead of how you normally play. like, i usually have a lot of respect for how you play but if you're town this game you're being both stupid and an asshole, and i don't feel like sitting here and taking your shit.

He got pissed off and it resulted in some unwanted behavior. Move on - do you have any objections to a talismania lynch?


forgot to answer this.

My objection to a talismania lynch is that it's not a wbg lynch. I don't understand why his recent behavior makes people think he's town. I don't see how it's alignment indicative.

Read his PM log with Erandorr. Try to approach it from a "what is scum WBG trying to accomplish with his actions" rather than a "is WBG playing as well as what I envision a town WBG would play like".


Just finished reading it.

So you're thinking about this wrong.

wbg's play isn't accomplishing objectives when he gets into this fight with errandor and starts raging everywhere. As I've said before, I think that scum wbg would be just as upset at the prospect of getting lynched for what he sees as shitty reasons as town wbg would. What I see in that pm log is just what wbg said it was - no serious attempt to persuade, except to persuade erandor that he's stupid.

So no, I don't see that chat log as alignment indicative, I see it as "wbg being in a really bad mood for some out of game reason" indicative. Look at his play before the fight between him and erandorr, that's where we have things that are actually valid to analyze.

I understand where you are coming from, and if that's general town consensus then maybe it is best if WBG died so we clear up the air. I would disagree with that but that doesn't accomplish anything, namely getting the lynch I want in prplhz or talismania. So between you and me let's talk D2 lynch.

talismania has outed Toad's masons (and I don't think the Toad claimed them prior), and has called out a potential mason tie between me and countdropula. Do you find him guilty of scum on those grounds? And thoughts on prplhz' general play thus far.


lol how could I have outed his masons if I didn't know they exist? Toad posted "the two people who masoned me..." and that's how I knew. Who's paying attention to the thread, hmm? :-)

also, will you state for the record that dropula and you are not mason-linked? Because it seems like a plausible reason for why he ninja-voted me at the timing that he did, without EVER MENTIONING MY NAME ONCE IN THE THREAD.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 21:29 GMT
#615
On August 05 2012 06:24 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:24 talismania wrote:
haven't read pg 31 yet but wanted to interject something quickly

I haven't heard a response from BC yet but if WBG keeps his vote on himself I don't see why anyone else should vote for him. He will be modkilled and maybe worse for breaking the rules of the game, so there's no point to vote for him if he's not going to change his mind.

In fact, WBG you might as well just quit the game if that's how you feel. Getting yourself lynched/modkilled wastes town's time, and if you want to help town by removing yourself as a distraction, then quit and town get get on with lynching me or prp or whatever.


bet you a 5er he wont do it.


Yeah I don't think he'll quit either. He IS breaking the rules right now and we need a word from our host to clarify how that is going to be handled. WBG I'm sure didn't know that rule was different this game, but if he's going to get a 3-game ban for this then I imagine he should feel compelled to put his vote elsewhere.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 21:55 GMT
#628
On August 05 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:
wat? the guys I'm in chat with are outed somewhere? Where? Did I miss something?

Or was it just about Talis saying "yeah figured you got masoned" ?
If he mentioned a name somewhere it's probably wrong because I can't remember something lol

No names, but the fact that he is drawing attention to that you got masoned, when I have no recollection of you saying that (if you did then I missed it). It's like seeing someone act like detective and pointing it out to everyone in thread.


You also missed the post like five posts before this one where I said that you missed it.

But what do I know I don't care about the game and am not paying attention.

Also, no comment on dropula? If you're not masoned with him, do you have another explanation for why he voted for me when he did with absolutely no comment? Are you ok with that?

___________


and of course, prp is fine with me so I'll go ahead and vote him.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 21:57 GMT
#631
Is it really in three hours? I thought the game started at 9pm pacific and it's only 3 pm pacific now
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#636
On August 05 2012 06:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:55 Hier wrote:
I do not understand this prplhz accusation. There are literally two things he has done:

1) Accuse Glasse of having passive posts.
2) Change his vote to slOosh for not being active.

Then he gets drunk and goes MIA.

Instead I'm starting to look at Toad for borderline forcing people to vote for prplhz, as opposed to encouraging votes for whoever people consider scummy.

WBG I'm almost convinced is town, in light of the conversation log between him and Erandorr.

jackpot. Got another mafia for today in case Zeph is town.


Semi-agree with this.

Hier, how closely have you been following the thread?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#638
Yeah you're all right I misremembered.

We really really really need some host clarification here:

Will WBG be modkilled for voting for himself?

Will other votes count for WBG in that case?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#646
On August 05 2012 07:05 Hier wrote:
Nobody here is out to prove they are town, it being impossible. Instead people are speculating on who is most likely to be mafia. So slOosh, prplhz has done nothing for me to think he is town, but I disagree that he is the scummiest player here right now.


So who is the scummiest player right now? Toad?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#651
Jingle I think you're town and all but why does a scum mason mason some guy who just outed another mason? Why does scum erandorr do that?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:31 GMT
#657
On August 05 2012 07:28 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:26 talismania wrote:
Jingle I think you're town and all but why does a scum mason mason some guy who just outed another mason? Why does scum erandorr do that?


why does town erandorr do it? it's bad play either way imo.


He claims it's because he wanted to confirm what wbg would do because he was suspicious of him.

I agree with you and don't think any of it is clearcut.

Also more interested to hear how jinglehell sees it.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 22:58 GMT
#667
this is a post that is just for fun and should not be read if you don't want to be distracted

+ Show Spoiler +


ok bc refused to give me the names of characters in the game. But there aren't that many characters in mad men so I thought why not just make my own little setup for fun. We'll see how much of this ends up being right, if at all:

1 Primary characters

1.1 Don Draper - Vigilante (for firing people) or Townie Miller (because he isn't who he says he is)
1.2 Peggy Olson - Medic
1.3 Pete Campbell - Mafia
1.4 Betty Francis (Betty Draper) - Townie Mason?
1.5 Joan Harris (Joan Holloway) - Medic
1.6 Roger Sterling - Veteran

2 Supporting characters

2.1 Trudy Campbell - Townie
2.2 Bert Cooper - Townie Mason
2.3 Ken Cosgrove - Townie Mason
2.4 Harry Crane - Townie
2.5 Bobby Draper - Townie
2.6 Gene Draper - Townie
2.7 Megan Draper - Townie Mason
2.8 Sally Draper - Townie
2.9 Henry Francis - Townie
2.10 Michael Ginsberg - Townie
2.11 Paul Kinsey - Townie Miller
2.12 Duck Phillips - Mafia
2.13 Lane Pryce - Detective
2.14 Stan Rizzo - Townie
2.15 Sal Romano - Townie
2.16 Freddy Rumsen - Townie

3 Other characters

3.1 Allison - Townie
3.2 Joey Baird - Townie
3.3 Jimmy and Bobbie Barrett - Mafia
3.4 Glen Bishop - Townie Miller
3.5 Helen Bishop - Mafia
3.6 Ida Blankenship - Townie
3.7 Andrew and Dorothy Campbell
3.8 Bud and Judy Campbell
3.9 Tammy Campbell
3.10 Émile and Marie Calvet
3.11 Carla
3.12 Dawn Chambers
3.13 Ted Chaough - Mafia
3.14 Toni Charles
3.15 Cynthia Cosgrove
3.16 Jennifer Crane
3.17 Midge Daniels
3.18 Anna Draper
3.19 Abe Drexler
3.20 Suzanne Farrell
3.21 Lee Garner, Sr.
3.22 Lee Garner, Jr. - Mafia
3.23 Father Gill
3.24 Francine Hanson
3.25 Greg Harris - Mafia
3.26 Conrad Hilton - Vigilante?
3.27 Gene Hofstadt
3.28 William and Judy Hofstadt
3.29 Hollis
3.30 Gail Holloway
3.31 John Hooker
3.32 Edna Keener
3.33 Gloria Massey
3.34 Rachel Menken
3.35 Faye Miller
3.36 Katherine Olson and Anita Olson Respola
3.37 Phoebe
3.38 St. John Powell - Mafia
3.39 Rebecca Pryce
3.40 Robert Pryce
3.41 Joyce Ramsay
3.42 Lois Sadler
3.43 Danny Siegel
3.44 "Smitty" Smith and Kurt Smith
3.45 Jane Sterling
3.46 Margaret Sterling
3.47 Mona Sterling
3.48 Brooks Stanford Hargrove
3.49 Bethany Van Nuys
3.50 Tom and Jeannie Vogel
3.51 Arnold Wayne
3.52 Adam Whitman
3.53 Archie Whitman


talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 23:12 GMT
#674
On August 05 2012 08:07 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:58 talismania wrote:
this is a post that is just for fun and should not be read if you don't want to be distracted

+ Show Spoiler +


ok bc refused to give me the names of characters in the game. But there aren't that many characters in mad men so I thought why not just make my own little setup for fun. We'll see how much of this ends up being right, if at all:

1 Primary characters

1.1 Don Draper - Vigilante (for firing people) or Townie Miller (because he isn't who he says he is)
1.2 Peggy Olson - Medic
1.3 Pete Campbell - Mafia
1.4 Betty Francis (Betty Draper) - Townie Mason?
1.5 Joan Harris (Joan Holloway) - Medic
1.6 Roger Sterling - Veteran

2 Supporting characters

2.1 Trudy Campbell - Townie
2.2 Bert Cooper - Townie Mason
2.3 Ken Cosgrove - Townie Mason
2.4 Harry Crane - Townie
2.5 Bobby Draper - Townie
2.6 Gene Draper - Townie
2.7 Megan Draper - Townie Mason
2.8 Sally Draper - Townie
2.9 Henry Francis - Townie
2.10 Michael Ginsberg - Townie
2.11 Paul Kinsey - Townie Miller
2.12 Duck Phillips - Mafia
2.13 Lane Pryce - Detective
2.14 Stan Rizzo - Townie
2.15 Sal Romano - Townie
2.16 Freddy Rumsen - Townie

3 Other characters

3.1 Allison - Townie
3.2 Joey Baird - Townie
3.3 Jimmy and Bobbie Barrett - Mafia
3.4 Glen Bishop - Townie Miller
3.5 Helen Bishop - Mafia
3.6 Ida Blankenship - Townie
3.7 Andrew and Dorothy Campbell
3.8 Bud and Judy Campbell
3.9 Tammy Campbell
3.10 Émile and Marie Calvet
3.11 Carla
3.12 Dawn Chambers
3.13 Ted Chaough - Mafia
3.14 Toni Charles
3.15 Cynthia Cosgrove
3.16 Jennifer Crane
3.17 Midge Daniels
3.18 Anna Draper
3.19 Abe Drexler
3.20 Suzanne Farrell
3.21 Lee Garner, Sr.
3.22 Lee Garner, Jr. - Mafia
3.23 Father Gill
3.24 Francine Hanson
3.25 Greg Harris - Mafia
3.26 Conrad Hilton - Vigilante?
3.27 Gene Hofstadt
3.28 William and Judy Hofstadt
3.29 Hollis
3.30 Gail Holloway
3.31 John Hooker
3.32 Edna Keener
3.33 Gloria Massey
3.34 Rachel Menken
3.35 Faye Miller
3.36 Katherine Olson and Anita Olson Respola
3.37 Phoebe
3.38 St. John Powell - Mafia
3.39 Rebecca Pryce
3.40 Robert Pryce
3.41 Joyce Ramsay
3.42 Lois Sadler
3.43 Danny Siegel
3.44 "Smitty" Smith and Kurt Smith
3.45 Jane Sterling
3.46 Margaret Sterling
3.47 Mona Sterling
3.48 Brooks Stanford Hargrove
3.49 Bethany Van Nuys
3.50 Tom and Jeannie Vogel
3.51 Arnold Wayne
3.52 Adam Whitman
3.53 Archie Whitman




This sort of stuff needs to come after the game. Ive so far found your posts to be sub-optimal town play.

At this point Im against a prphlz for the reasons that his case had merit and he has been afk for a long time. In the past this is how bandwagons on Day 1 have started. Im examining those who have been throwing around their votes so far.


1) It's just a little side-game, like sidebets in poker purely for my own amusement.
2) I've so far found your posts oh wait I haven't found any of your posts because you haven't made any
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#676
what happened to marv and solstice?
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