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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 20:41 GMT
#1447
@Lazer, I've only skimmed what you've written but I will indeed post my read on every single player in this game before the day is through. My first priority in this situation is to establish my innocence as much as possible, then make the lynch between me and my top scumread, then get that person lynched. This is standard.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 20:53 GMT
#1450
Let me respond to this bit:

[quote=Lazermonkey]Long post on why he must be miller.
Point 1 is purely based on WIFOM and is thus disregarded.
Point 2 is such bad logic from his side (assuming that he is miller...). For example you say that people who was suspicious or voted you on D1 or D2 can't be your scum mates. LOL. You weren't close to getting lynched neither D1 nor D2 so why bring that up? Also I don't really see any telling with people wanting to lynch you right know. If there is any time you would want to bus, wouldn't that be when you got a red check?
Point 3 is WIFOM once again.
Point 4 is WIFOM.
Point 5 is bad logic once again. It's not like you were the only reason for Toad to out Xsebt. Also arguing against someone who had ''guessed'' the name of Toads character correctly wouldn't look very good neither.[/quote]

Point 1 is NOT wifom. It's the truth. There's no one in this game right now (marv doesn't count since he was originally BioSC) who would make a better GF choice than me, if I'm scum. To say otherwise is to suggest that I've played the entire game with the hope of being red-checked or something, and that that was the plan from pre-game, when role decisions were presumably made. Does that make sense to you?

Point 2 is just to show that there's no clear scum strategy involved in my play, or any of my interactions with anyone or their interactions with me.

Point 3 is absolutely NOT wifom. You can't wifom meta. I can't just turn on a switch that says "ok act like town". If I could, I would, you know, act like town when I'm scum. Read Bang Bang 2. Read Pick Your Poison. Read I Can't Believe It's not Themed. I don't play like town in those games, and I'm not town in those games. I'm sorry but I don't have the power to magically alter my meta. Very few people do.

Point 4 is not really wifom either. I don't kill the people who are helping with the mislynch I'm pushing if I'm scum.

On Point 5 you're sort of right. But the point remains that I don't put in the effort to get a confirmed DT in the game if I'm scum. That doesn't help my team.

__________


I guess bottom line you can always invent a reason for why anything I write could be written by scum. Why my meta could be different, why I could have wanted goon over godfather, why I've been acting like I have. But at the end of the day to put all of that together is to assume that the most complex answer is right. It never is. It's always the simplest explanation. And the simplest explanation is that I'm miller.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#1451
Format fail

On August 11 2012 05:53 talismania wrote:
Let me respond to this bit:

Show nested quote +
Long post on why he must be miller.
Point 1 is purely based on WIFOM and is thus disregarded.
Point 2 is such bad logic from his side (assuming that he is miller...). For example you say that people who was suspicious or voted you on D1 or D2 can't be your scum mates. LOL. You weren't close to getting lynched neither D1 nor D2 so why bring that up? Also I don't really see any telling with people wanting to lynch you right know. If there is any time you would want to bus, wouldn't that be when you got a red check?
Point 3 is WIFOM once again.
Point 4 is WIFOM.
Point 5 is bad logic once again. It's not like you were the only reason for Toad to out Xsebt. Also arguing against someone who had ''guessed'' the name of Toads character correctly wouldn't look very good neither.


Point 1 is NOT wifom. It's the truth. There's no one in this game right now (marv doesn't count since he was originally BioSC) who would make a better GF choice than me, if I'm scum. To say otherwise is to suggest that I've played the entire game with the hope of being red-checked or something, and that that was the plan from pre-game, when role decisions were presumably made. Does that make sense to you?

Point 2 is just to show that there's no clear scum strategy involved in my play, or any of my interactions with anyone or their interactions with me.

Point 3 is absolutely NOT wifom. You can't wifom meta. I can't just turn on a switch that says "ok act like town". If I could, I would, you know, act like town when I'm scum. Read Bang Bang 2. Read Pick Your Poison. Read I Can't Believe It's not Themed. I don't play like town in those games, and I'm not town in those games. I'm sorry but I don't have the power to magically alter my meta. Very few people do.

Point 4 is not really wifom either. I don't kill the people who are helping with the mislynch I'm pushing if I'm scum.

On Point 5 you're sort of right. But the point remains that I don't put in the effort to get a confirmed DT in the game if I'm scum. That doesn't help my team.

__________


I guess bottom line you can always invent a reason for why anything I write could be written by scum. Why my meta could be different, why I could have wanted goon over godfather, why I've been acting like I have. But at the end of the day to put all of that together is to assume that the most complex answer is right. It never is. It's always the simplest explanation. And the simplest explanation is that I'm miller.

talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 20:55 GMT
#1453
Well there's a twist.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:01 GMT
#1456
Four millers is too many. Can't understand who the fuck the scum are if CD is not in there. Can't understand why scum fake claim DT in this position either though. Seems like they would have to do very little to get rid of me.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:06 GMT
#1458
oh well I guess they want to guarantee zeph's lynch tomorrow after I flip miller or just win the game outright during the night.

I think best play here is lynch zephirdd, zeph flips town. Check Lazer. Then we have two confirmed scum.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:09 GMT
#1461
yeah, this is clearly best. If zeph flips scum, lynch me tomorrow.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:11 GMT
#1465
lol I don't think it does actually.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:13 GMT
#1468
above directed at marv.

I'm miller for sure. If zeph is scum (which I doubt) then dropula is town which makes no sense. I think dropula and lazer just outed themselves.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:14 GMT
#1471
On August 11 2012 06:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:05 JingleHell wrote:
I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but I think one of our DTs is a liar, and possibly using some scum info to pass it off. I mean, right now the role list sounds more like Conspiracy Theory mafia. I know it's nuts to WIFOM the host, but what the hell.

Either we believe this setup is absurd as hell, or we see how today's lynch goes and start looking at cases. I usually don't trust anyone, but starting now, I go into paranoia mode.
Well either both me and Dropula is scum or bot of us is town.


Exactly. Lynching zephirdd confirms both of you, as well as xsebt, as well as toad.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#1478
I don't really see it either unless they thought they could end the game really fast by getting a vig to shoot a townie.

Still it's not going to work. If zeph flips town, then no way does a vig shoot me.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:19 GMT
#1481
Zeph has to go first. If he's scum, down one scum. If he's town, then dropula and lazer are scum. If he's miller, well I doubt he's miller because that means four millers which seems ridiculous.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:20 GMT
#1483
"we"
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:23 GMT
#1486
He may be referring to where I was talking about his vig direction. He wants vig to shoot me regardless. I say that there's no way vig shoots me if zeph flips town LOL.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:25 GMT
#1488
man I can't believe this hahaha. I honestly think scum got greedy but we'll find out.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:27 GMT
#1495
On August 11 2012 06:25 Hier wrote:
What if Lazer is town? What if potential scum CD picked 2 town players to pretend to have investigations on. How about we lynch Talis today, announce that we are protecting Xsebt with medics, and have him investigate VE. If CD survives the night, that means he is mafia. If he dies, then we get a DT flip, confirming his reads. We then get Xsebt's read on VE, who doesn't die in the night. Sounds good?


ahaha you should check with your qt before posting something like that =P
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#1496
##Lock

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CountDropula
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HassyBaby
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:32 GMT
#1501
On August 11 2012 06:31 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:27 talismania wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:25 Hier wrote:
What if Lazer is town? What if potential scum CD picked 2 town players to pretend to have investigations on. How about we lynch Talis today, announce that we are protecting Xsebt with medics, and have him investigate VE. If CD survives the night, that means he is mafia. If he dies, then we get a DT flip, confirming his reads. We then get Xsebt's read on VE, who doesn't die in the night. Sounds good?


ahaha you should check with your qt before posting something like that =P

QT? QuickTime?


oh well actually maybe you're town hahaha.

(quicktopic, the forum boards used by the mafia teams to coordinate)
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:34 GMT
#1506
Man it would be sick if zephirdd and dropula were scum together. Scum deserve to win in that case.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 21:37 GMT
#1511
On August 11 2012 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:34 talismania wrote:
Man it would be sick if zephirdd and dropula were scum together. Scum deserve to win in that case.
Then I also need to be scum.


Yeah for sure. It would be like a crazy plan to get two members of your team confirmed in exchange for one. But it would take a lot of foresight and planning to pull off, not to mention the execution. So you'd deserve the win.
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