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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 15:07:16
July 11 2012 15:03 GMT
#5
/in

No communication for mafia, right?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 12 2012 16:55 GMT
#23
Pfft, you cohosted a bastard game. This should be easy for you
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 01:49 GMT
#41
Come on people. Sign up. It'll be awesome!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 14:17:51
July 22 2012 12:30 GMT
#64

I dont think i have time to play bureaucracy and this. Setup looks awesome though

Edit: actually screw it. Staying in. Ill make time to play.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 20:23 GMT
#67
So if my character say started with 1000 power level and then voted for a person immediately and stayed on them for 10 hours and then switched to a different person who I then stayed on for six hours, would my power level go up by 4000, assuming I'm still under the cap?

Does everyone start at the same power level or do we not know anything about that?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 01:54 GMT
#83
On July 24 2012 10:27 Kenpachi wrote:
oh this games gonna replace champloo? a pm would have been nice >_>

w/e its still the same concept so its all cool


Booo, I wanted to see "guys guys I'm townie"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#84
Are the defenders of earth masoned?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 13:22 GMT
#93
On July 24 2012 21:22 Sinensis wrote:
Here is a plan I have.

We all role claim; sequentially; one at a time. If someone duplicate claims, we can post mod PMs for verification (since we can this game). The only chance scum have is if they gamble on a role that isn't in the game and odds are in our favor at least one of them will mess up.

Cons would be scum know who's who. But they still wouldn't be able to learn our power levels without putting themselves in serious danger by duplicate claiming.

What does everyone think of my plan?


Its not a good idea. Scum will almost certainly have been given fakeclaims for the characters not in the game.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 13:47 GMT
#97
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 14:48 GMT
#99
lol, how does that make it a kingmaker mechanic? a kingmaker would be if one person decided the lynch...
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 16:02 GMT
#101
On July 25 2012 00:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:47 HiroPro wrote:
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.

That just discourages different viewpoints. How would that be good while trying to scum hunt?


How does it discourage different viewpoints. You still push for whoever you want, make reads on whoever you want, and vote for whoever you want. The only difference is that instead of say having a 6-5 voting and not knowing who'll get lynched, you ensure that the person with the most votes gets lynched (by moving all votes to them at say 5 minutes before the deadline).
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 16:08 GMT
#103
On July 25 2012 01:05 ghost_403 wrote:
Except
Show nested quote +
Characters each have unique power level base and cap


So now, you've introduced a new mechanic where we have no idea who's really controlling the lynch. It's not quite kingmaker, but it still introduces a lot of chaos into the lynch. I would rather have more information with a high amount of accountability, even if that does give the scum team more to work with.


The power levels don't matter at all though, with the plan I'm describing. Who controls the lynch? The majority does.

Accountability? You still get that by seeing who people vote for and make cases on before the final consolidation.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 16:16 GMT
#105
On July 25 2012 01:12 ghost_403 wrote:
Player A has a BPL of 5k.
Player B has a BPL of 2k.
Player C has a BPL of 1k.

Players B and C vote to lynch Player A, Player A votes to lynch Player B. Hammer swings, and Player B flips.

Right now, while we have everyone playing, that's not nearly as much of an issue. However, I don't believe that we can truly make this a plurality lynch.


No plan can prevent A from getting what they want there lol. It doesn't matter how you decide to vote.


Besides, what happens when one player decides not to sign up for your plan? Suddenly, the rest of the town is at a disadvantage, because we were planning to vote at the last minute, while the other player(s) have more influence since they started voting much earlier in the day.


Not everyone is switching at the last minute though. Only the people who weren't on the leading candidate. You'll still have players who have been voting for that candidate for a long time and have powered up. 1 or 2 players are not going to be able to stop the lynch.

HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 18:35 GMT
#109
On July 25 2012 03:21 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:28 ghost_403 wrote:
Looks like someone didn't read the OP. Scum team was all given fake claims. Although I am curious as to if their fake claims match their power levels. I would assume they do, but that is something to keep in mind throughout the rest of the game.


Will you point out where in the OP it says the scum team knows which Ginyu Squad roles aren't in the game? I still don't see it and thought I read everything...


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15420479
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 03:07 GMT
#135
Eh, michaelthe's post doesnt say anything about him - from what I remember he said something about day 1 lynches being useless and better to random lynch in both space station and li as town(im on my phone so its a pan to check but im pretty sure).
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 03:11 GMT
#136
Im talking about his first post btw. Sinensis I have no idea what youre trying to do with pm times but you should stop...
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 03:24 GMT
#138
You should stop because doing stuff with role PM times is generally banned and doesnt say anything...

How exatly does michaelthe defending grush lead you to think that grush is suspicious?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 14:41 GMT
#142
I was hoping for more than this -_-
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 14:54 GMT
#144
kk, but I get to be Director of Recruitment
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 15:24 GMT
#149
On July 26 2012 00:07 ghost_403 wrote:
In that case, I'm declaring myself the Minister of War, and I'm thinking we should start with BioSC, because of stuff like this:

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 01:32 BioSC wrote:
Hello all,

Glad to see people posting and all. With regards to roleclaiming:

+ Show Spoiler +
Not all of the above red roles will be in the game. In fact, three won't be. Hmm...


This line makes me not want to. It's heavily implied that the "Scum" team have fake claims.

As to claiming power levels (base/max/whatever) I'm also hesitant about that. Leaving the strategy of switching votes at the last minute to me feels like giving mafia more control over the lynch. What if they all have really high base powers? What if there are other mechanics involving power levels with their characters? Honestly, sticking to good old fashioned scumhunting and accountability jazz will probably be the way to handle voting/lynching.


This is a really empty post. I can certainly understand being lost or disoriented with this kind of vote mechanic, but that's not what I'm seeing here. Instead, he's just stating the obvious, and taking a long time to do it. And look at how he ends this post: completely neutral and unhelpful. He's not trying to figure out what's going on in this game, he's trying to blend in.

@hiro: What do you think about going to war with him?


I don't see really anything scummy with that post. It'd be nice to hear him talk about some of the people in this game, though.



I'm more interested in MajuGarzett.

On July 25 2012 00:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
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On July 24 2012 22:47 HiroPro wrote:
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.

That just discourages different viewpoints. How would that be good while trying to scum hunt?


He comes in and asks a question, which is useless and then proceeds to afk. He doesn't offer his opinion on either of the plans suggested in the thread or stick around to make any responses. This is the same type of empty posting that he showed in Bastard 2 as mafia - remember how the only thing he did night 0 was ask what benefits he could gain and cast some light doubt. Contrast to something like LVI as town, where he has no problem making opinions or saying what he thinks personally.



Also, I'm ditching my plan. There's no way it can get implemented when we have 3 people not posting and another 3 who said they won't follow it.
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