Evulrabbitz you're name is conspicuously missing from the Player List. I think you might want to re-read the OP and try it again. Quickly before someone Ninja's your spot!

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 13 2012 02:38 GMT

#163

seriously, still missing something. Read more carefully.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 15 2012 23:59 GMT

#208

On my phone so I don't want to get long winded just Now. I should be up to date in a few hours.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 03:49 GMT

#231

As an intro, I've played in 3 games on TL so far, this is my 4th (and final Newbie)
Town (lynched day-1): NMM XVIII
Town (Endgamed:NMM XIX
Scum (lynched day-1);NMM XX
I'm on MST, and should be active (or at least up to date on the thread) any time throughout the day from ~6AM-11PM.

I disagree with the use of meta, at least in newbie, despite the fact that it seemed like Hapa relied on it heavily in NMMXX to get a big day-1 lynch. I made a terrible accusation against him that let him tunnel me to victory. The meta case could have easily gone either way in my opinion. Actual reads are always going to outweigh any meta analysis when I consider a case against any player. I don't care if you have a scummy meta, SCUMMY PLAY DOES NOT HELP TOWN! If I find your play scummy, I'm going to read you as scum and push for your lynch.

Still nothing really serious going on. As of now, my goal is to not lynch any lurkers. That kind of sucks for me, because I have every intention of voting for a lurker. I know I just contradicted myself. My reasoning is that in a mini, and especially after we had to post "I will be active" to /in, lurking is beyond unacceptable. This does not mean I'm going to not try to get discussion going. Especially because:
THIS IS PLURALITY LYNCH, NOT MAJORITY.
My choice of which lurker is not going to be known until its much closer to the vote deadline. This is especially because I've found that early votes lead to very unreliable bandwagon activity from town players as well as scum. I'm hoping there is no one to choose from due to the amazing activity in the thread and I get to vote for a scummy read instead.

-@Calgar Regarding the "wait and see" discussion:
"I have nothing else to contribute right now, and there isn't really any info to make reads with the current information. Instead of mucking up the thread with random policy or spam, I'm just going to shut my trap and wait for some activity."

Unless of course we want to get random policy discussion going. Or the merits of naming yourself after sex-toys, or why tube won't post using reasonable punctuation.

There is always something to post, and I'd rather see remarkably random discussions being started instead of straight up saying "I'm just going to sit here and wait."

On July 16 2012 11:50 JingleHell wrote:
"Wait and see" is mutually exclusive with "instigate discussion".

The only reason you're in this discussion is because Jingle thought what you said was (or could be interpreted as) scummy. He explicitly prevented you from waiting by pressuring you now.

On July 16 2012 12:08 calgar wrote:
Interesting that you say that, considering it (and the the rest of my post) has instigated a discussion with you.

This is bullshit to me. You're post had no intention of instigating any discussion.

On July 16 2012 11:28 calgar wrote:
You guys may end up being be right but I'm not expecting anything to come easily. I suppose we'll have to wait and see. Very quiet first night so far, though, so not much to be done really.

If it did, it was because you knew it was a scummy thing to say and someone would call you out on it. Otherwise you could literally have posted nothing, and achieved a similar result. I do think Jingle was reading too much into the initial statement, but I find your reactions to it to be over the top.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 04:08 GMT

#235

On July 16 2012 12:57 calgar wrote:

Show nested quote +

You have to understand that I voluntarily posted with nothing to post about (essentially). This post about, what I felt was nothing, started it up. So it doesn't make sense to dismiss my part in it as "bullshit". I felt like in this beginning scenario making a rather content-less post was better than not posting at all. I'm glad my post has caused him to pressure.

It seems like you've misunderstood specifically what I was referring to, probably the crappy structure of my post.The b.s. part was where you said your post had instigated discussion. Basically Jingle's first paragraph above.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 04:09 GMT

#236

EBWOP: First paragraph in the post above mine.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 04:14 GMT

#238

...you rat bastard.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 20:00 GMT

#261

"what lol"
FoS tube
No. Hapa made a completely reasonable observation regarding your posting habits (of producing worthless spam) and you A) respond to it and B) blow it off like its nothing. Accusations and suspicions don't just disappear because you ignore them or dismiss them with no further explanation than NOPE! Any time your ready, you can chime in on any of the ongoing discussions. Doing that would prove the accusations wrong, as opposed to just arguing that they're wrong.
You know what I thought of when making this post:

In other news, Fulla's filter makes me nervous.
+ Show Spoiler +

Just under 4 hours until a full day from his welcome post. Wtf? Perhaps busy or something, but ffs, that looks fishy.
FoS Fulla

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 21:21 GMT

#301

On July 17 2012 06:02 drwiggl3s wrote:

Show nested quote +

Is this.. a scum slip? You should always go for mafia. Lynching someone for being bad-town is a mistake. This is a noobie game after all.

Do you have a list of mafia for us to choose from? Are you on that list, Captain Obvious (No relation)? I thought I was supposed to get myself killed Day 1 every time, hence my abysmal history in playing this game. [/sarcasm]

Lynching a bad townie in absence of scum to choose from is the best play town can make (unless its MYLO) imo.
Are we allowed to Vote: No Lynch?

There's some theoretical crap about even numbers of town-vs-scum being better for a potential mislynch or something to that effect. I might have it backwards in some way, but anyways, mislynching still gives information and the entire process leading up to getting tube (mis)lynched will give us information as well. If along the way someone makes a scumslip well guess what, I'll probably be voting for the scummy player. We need to do something to force reads from people who refuse to contribute. Almost getting them lynched should work as reasonable motivation I'd hope.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 16 2012 22:26 GMT

#330

I'm done with tube. This is going around in circles and wasting time. His current approach to responding is making my head hurt.

I'd suggest we leave him alone until tomorrow morning to see if he is in fact capable of making reads. There's 11 other players to analyze and conclude whether we think they're scum or town. By no means does this imply I'm giving him a free pass. If he hasn't come back with something meaningful by lynch time tomorrow, I'm likely to be joining Jingle's (present) company.

I'm still waiting for Fulla to show up for real. Almost 24 hours now since his Welcome Everyone post.

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