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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 01:47 GMT
#771
Hey, Hapa. Credit where due, I also kept the situation tenable for communication to cool things down instead of going ballistic. Stroke my ego here a little
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 02:08 GMT
#773
Yeah, at least we got that out of it. It's like YourHarry decided to play a 100% textbook scum. Maybe he got tired of hiding? Or maybe he was hoping his meta would protect him?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 02:48 GMT
#777
The tag you wanted is
[green][b] Insert Text Here [/b][/green]
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 02:49 GMT
#780
Yeah, I saw too late... can't exactly edit it out.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 04:02 GMT
#783
Huh? So not being aware of the specific way roleblocks are being handled in this game, when I've never received notification of being roleblocked in any game, is somehow a scumtell?

And this is the sum total of both your defense and your "case" against me after you "skimmed through the game from the beginning"?

To quote myself after you announced your plan...

On July 20 2012 10:05 JingleHell wrote:
Anyone else expecting some grandiose epic thriller that makes the craziest WIFOM anyone else (like me) has used so far look mundane?


Now I admit, it's shorter than I was expecting, but what the fucking fuckity fuck?

Does anyone (who doesn't have several votes on them) expect me to do sufficient amounts of hallucinogens to respond to this?

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 04:06 GMT
#786
On July 20 2012 13:04 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 13:02 JingleHell wrote:
Huh? So not being aware of the specific way roleblocks are being handled in this game, when I've never received notification of being roleblocked in any game, is somehow a scumtell?

And this is the sum total of both your defense and your "case" against me after you "skimmed through the game from the beginning"?

To quote myself after you announced your plan...

On July 20 2012 10:05 JingleHell wrote:
Anyone else expecting some grandiose epic thriller that makes the craziest WIFOM anyone else (like me) has used so far look mundane?


Now I admit, it's shorter than I was expecting, but what the fucking fuckity fuck?

Does anyone (who doesn't have several votes on them) expect me to do sufficient amounts of hallucinogens to respond to this?



Jingle, in XX it was brought up multiple times that townies should claim "roleblocked". I personally brought this up at least 3 times.


Your "evidence"? is based on a game I mostly ignored because certain players were putting my blood pressure through the roof.

And the parts of the game where I was paying attention to the thread, I was paying as much attention to you personally as anyone else was.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 13:46 GMT
#799
Dear YourHarry:

Huh?

Love, Jingle

Harry is by far my strongest current read. But even if he wasn't... here's how I feel.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#802
On July 20 2012 23:11 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:22 Hapahauli wrote:
This is JingleHell's 4th game. His beliefs on roleblock notification aren't only influenced by game XX. I suggest looking at what the rules were regarding roleblock notification in his previous two games.


In Jingle's 1st game XVIII, unfortunately whether vanilla townies get roleblocked does not get mentioned, at least in the rules.

In Jingle's 2nd game XIX, this is also mentioned by the mod. I didn't not read the whole thread to see it is mentioned again by other players. He died on night 1 though, but I assume he probably read the list of the roles. Whether vanillas get roleblocked is not specifically mentioned, and but the writing of the rules should be reasonably interpreted as everyone getting roleblocked notification - as it does not say only power roles get the notification. Still, there is some room for misunderstanding, if this was Jingle's only game.

+ Show Spoiler +
Skilled Bullshitter (Role Blocker) You are a skilled thread derailer, you have the ability to take any thread on TL and subtly derail it with complete bullshit. So subtle that no one notices, but effective enough that no one in the thread can have a coherent conversation and spend the entire night trying to refute the total nonsensical bullshit that you brought up. Each night you may choose one target of your choice to bullshit. That player will not be able to perform any actions for the night. Your target will be informed they were roleblocked. Roleblocks do not block passive abilities.


Jingle's 3rd game, XX, it had been mentioned ample of times by me and other players that vanillas also get roleblock notifications. But it is also mentioned by the moderator Radfield (I bolded the part specifying this):

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2012 05:27 Radfield wrote:

Things to keep in mind:

*The Godfather is immune to tracking.

*The godfather will return as Innocent, and a miller with return as Guilty to detective checks.

*The Miller will show up to tracking as visiting a random player.

*Mafia players will be tracked to the target of their roles, not to the kill target. In the event a mafia player does NOT use his role, he will be tracked to the kill target.

*Players will be notified if they are roleblocked, whether they have a role or not.


Dear Harry, Remember this?

On July 13 2012 10:41 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 10:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yay you found it!


Meh, I wasn't expecting some hidden easter egg shiznit, and it's my final newbie game, so I was just going to /in and go back to dig out the juicy bits.


Or was I casually setting up my own defense back then when I posted something humorously self-aggrandizing to explain missing that? Before I knew roles? If you'd like to make a case, please feel free to do so. Currently you're just making my head hurt.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 14:50 GMT
#804
I have an idea. You keep coming up with crazy theories, and if anyone has the balls to bring them up again after you flip red, I'll defend myself in the process of getting them lynched too? Deal?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:05 GMT
#808
By the way, in case anyone thinks I'm just being dismissive...

If anyone feels the need, and has the ability, feel free to translate Harry's "case" against me into something I can understand without controlled substances, and I'll happily refute it. So far, the parts I've understood best have been the ones where he's suggested I'm involved in some overly complex, grandiose plot because my memory isn't perfect.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:12 GMT
#812
Harry, to quote myself, since you're "Roleclaiming"...


On July 18 2012 08:28 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:27 calgar wrote:
On July 18 2012 08:24 JingleHell wrote:
Why would you claim vet, though? It totally negates the value of it as a role.
You would claim vanilla townie so as to not negate the value.


Oh, great idea. Ok, since we can trust anyone who claims townie, let's just ask. Guys, who's scum?


Also...

On July 21 2012 00:06 YourHarry wrote:
EDBWOP: hopefully a miller


Harry says he HOPES he's a miller? Trying to discredit potential DT investigations or something? Yeah, ok scum, byebye.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#814
On July 21 2012 00:08 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 00:05 JingleHell wrote:
By the way, in case anyone thinks I'm just being dismissive...

If anyone feels the need, and has the ability, feel free to translate Harry's "case" against me into something I can understand without controlled substances, and I'll happily refute it. So far, the parts I've understood best have been the ones where he's suggested I'm involved in some overly complex, grandiose plot because my memory isn't perfect.


What do you think about my case on calgar? Him not suspecting you even though he didn't get "roleblocked" notification from the mod?


I don't understand your "case" on Calgar, either, actually. It seems to require the same sort of mental yoga that made me sprain my cerebral cortex trying to read your accusation against me.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:34 GMT
#817
Show me, exactly what you're talking about, from the filters. Burden of proof is on the accuser. Show me quotes, in context. Because if I remember the thread correctly, you're misrepresenting the hell out of that whole chunk of conversation.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:35 GMT
#818
EBWOP My last was directed at harry.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:36 GMT
#819
I actually remember facepalming every time Harry tried to "help" my case against Calgar while I was making it, because I didn't want guilt by association with Harry.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 15:51 GMT
#823
Scumslip #3.6 trillion. Logical Fallacy.

Vanilla townies also get roleblocked. So do scums


In no way contains the words "receive notification".

Regardless, if you'll notice, he ASKED IN THE THREAD when a person gets notification once he understood you.

Sometimes people "Understand" something, and then realize that they don't. Something can make some sort of sense the first time around to one part of your brain, and then later you realize "wait I don't get it".

Also, you were trying to cast suspicion in a game of FORUM MAFIA by making a response time sensitive. You were pressuring a fast response and then you accuse him because everything you say has seven different meanings, usually mutually exclusive.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 16:07 GMT
#828
Well, Harry's OMGUS has served one purpose. He totally got the discussion away from pressuring him. However, I'm not sure what the conversation has moved to, except perhaps the value of Tylenol, which I just took.

Anyways, I think the last several pages of utterly nonsensical spam OMGUS have more value as evidence against Harry than anyone else. Any dissent?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 16:25 GMT
#830
Hapa, meta case please? He's annoying as town, but not this terrible. And frankly, on the incredibly off chance he flips town, I still wouldn't call it a wasted day to ditch him. Any time there's a lull he makes the dumbest possible case? Maybe in the first half of D1 you can argue for that, but that's about it.

Frankly, I find it incredibly fishy that someone who's under suspicion would try to defend Harry.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 16:29 GMT
#832
Perfection. He's saying that Harry is too dumb to be scum. I think.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 20 2012 16:37 GMT
#836
Ah yes, thank you. And yeah, if Harry flips, perfection will go to pretty much confirmed scum. Of course, unless there's a medic, I'm dead tonight anyways.
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