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JingleHell
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"Heavy" WIFOM is when there's so much of it that you need a fucking flowchart to keep track of the argument, like everything you say. "Useless" WIFOM is when you're in a position where an argument involves both parties arguing circular WIFOM back and forth at each other. And everything in Mafia being WIFOM merely refers to the fact that you can make a WIFOM case in any direction you want based off of literally everything said in a mafia game. Not to mention that you're actually not even pretending to take either of those bits in context of themselves, let alone the thread as a whole at the time. | ||
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Trying to make it a black and white thing is also scum behavior. The so called circular logic of calling things WIFOM and dismissing things as WIFOM involves CONTEXT. For reference, to be sure you understand this word, please include a definition from an English dictionary at some point. And then start using context in this stand up comedy routine you call a case. | ||
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On July 21 2012 02:35 drwiggl3s wrote: Jingle since your leading this I want to ask you a question. If YourHarry flips scum, what information do you think we will gain from that conclusion? What if YourHarry flips town. What will be your opinion on Calgar, Hap, et all? If YourHarry flips scum, I'm kind of hoping the rest of the scumteam will surrender out of gratitude at not having him in the QT anymore. If YourHarry flips town, my opinion on everyone will require significant re-analysis. However, I've actually decided that if the scumteam includes both Hapa and Calgar, the town has already lost due to the number of inactive players. I'll try to have some concise stuff written up during the night since the odds of me making it to the morning are slim, unless there's a medic around. | ||
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Once the info is revealed, not sharing it would be bad, but revealing what I plan to look at in advance would be ridiculous. | ||
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If hopeless is scummy for being a sheep, then what does that make you for being a chaotic sheep who seems to mainly care about instigating and maintaining drama, whose main defense was to attack Calgar, and who roleclaimed VT and said he hoped he was miller? | ||
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On July 21 2012 03:00 drwiggl3s wrote: Its d2. We should have enough to go on to lynch for mafia scum not just for the sake of getting rid of clutter. No shit, thus the whole being 95% certain he's scum. Trying to take a tiny fraction of a snarky comment out of context to cast doubt on my case, plus trying to find out what sort of information we can get based on voting patterns, plus lurking like a mofo... Hi, D3. | ||
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On July 21 2012 03:27 drwiggl3s wrote: .. Well I hope your right on this Jingle. For your sake.. being 95% sure and all. Being the person who's mostly been controlling this game, I really hope your right. Why don't you go read the case and decide for yourself? I mean, unless it's going to interfere with all those productive posts of yours. | ||
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Votecount please? | ||
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On July 21 2012 03:50 drwiggl3s wrote: Jingle I think you could be scum. Despite your Jailer breadcrumb / claim crap. But before I make a (possibly wrong) case, I want to see more information. Since you're 95% sure that he's scum, I'm sure your comfortable with this. As tomorrow when he's lynched and flips scum I'll be able to believe your actually jailer. As some famous admiral once said... + Show Spoiler + it's a trap! Anyone want to lay down bets on what kind of trap Wiggles is setting? | ||
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Wiggles, based in his recent posting is almost certainly scum. He's been relatively inactive, until now. He's setting up posting to cast suspicion on me if Harry flips green, and to make me look wishy-washy and scummy if I change targets now. I'm almost certain to be accused of an OMGUS if I vote on him. Now, the problem we face is twofold. One: Do we look for some grandiose plan worthy of YourHarry's conspiracy theories and continue to assume that Harry is scum, or do we give BOTD down to "Townie off his meds"? And secondly, do we lynch Harry now and worry about Wiggles later, or do we get Wiggles now and give Harry a shock collar? | ||
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On July 17 2012 05:46 drwiggl3s wrote: Hmm.. Usually Mafia feel the need to post and "fit in" as they have an inherit sense of guilt. Do you think making non-productive posts makes you look more town? Seems like it has the opposite effect. I'd suggest you share some of your reads with us. What you think about other players etc. If you are town and really do want to get the heat of you.. If you're mafia than keep doing what your doing  On July 17 2012 08:53 drwiggl3s wrote: Glad you could join is Fulla  In my experience (LVI) it seemed that the first lynch did not turn out to be scum. But that's just down to odds right.. However, one player who posted short reads, accusations, one liners (Bill Murray in that game) ended up being Mafia Boss and was shot N1. Food for thought I guess. Kind of hard to extrapolate good data or trends for D1. Truly food for thought. Day 1, he voted for Tube well after that dust had cleared. On July 18 2012 03:42 drwiggl3s wrote: Ah ebwop Vote ##tube There was a huge difference. But since that post and everyone calling you out on it, YOU have since back tracked and modified your play and posting style to the way it was before. He visibly disassociated himself from the Obvious mislynch, which he seems to be capitalizing on now. Here, he makes a scummy statement about killing Calgar purely for the information. On July 20 2012 03:34 drwiggl3s wrote: For my reads right now, I wouldn't mind testing the waters with a Calgar lynch. Getting one of the major players out of the way and see what he flips. This could tell us a lot about iamperfection as well as others who are resistant (or soft defending) a Calgar lynch. And now his recent posting binge. Asking great questions, like what kind of info people might be able to glean from current situations once they resolve. On July 21 2012 02:35 drwiggl3s wrote: Jingle since your leading this I want to ask you a question. If YourHarry flips scum, what information do you think we will gain from that conclusion? What if YourHarry flips town. What will be your opinion on Calgar, Hap, et all? And generally setting things up so that no matter how Harry flips, he's in a good position. On July 21 2012 03:50 drwiggl3s wrote: Jingle I think you could be scum. Despite your Jailer breadcrumb / claim crap. But before I make a (possibly wrong) case, I want to see more information. Since you're 95% sure that he's scum, I'm sure your comfortable with this. As tomorrow when he's lynched and flips scum I'll be able to believe your actually jailer. Thoughts? | ||
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On July 21 2012 04:21 drwiggl3s wrote: Lol you kidding me? Basically you're saying I'm more suspicious as scum for settling on your lynch, than you are for leading it? Nice way to get out of taking responsibility for your cases. And now this one too. This is quite blatantly setting me up. Maybe Harry is actually just a few boxes of tinfoil short of a good conspiracy theory. Who knows. But he's already laying blame at my feet when Harry looks scummy. Like he knows how Harry will flip. ##Unvote ##Vote drwiggl3s | ||
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On July 21 2012 04:37 drwiggl3s wrote: Yes I agree that maybe Hairy is town. I never said he was either alignment. But I'm saying that you have been leading the game thus far. And that if Harry turns out to flip town it's going to look bad on you. And I'm telling you I want to see how he flips since you have been so strongly saying he's mafia. And what, now after a tiny bit of pressure you go from "95" to saying Harry is "maybe a few boxes of tinfoil short of a good conspiracy theory"? To me it looks like your controlling this game. And soon as someone casts suspicion on you, you make a case on them. I want to see him lynched after your grandoise case against him. Because it will tell me a lot about your alignment. But, I'm sure being someone who doesn't want people to know about his alignment, you switch to a vote on me? I know what color I'll flip if I suddenly get lynched because of being willing to shift my vote to the person trying to lead me into a blatant trap. And if that lynch happens, when I flip town, you die next, so I'm at peace with it. Are you? | ||
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On July 21 2012 04:38 calgar wrote: I'll agree with you that drwiggles is a good lynch right now. Is he better than harry though? I'm planning to move my vote away from iamperfection - I may have come up with a solution to him, I'll post more on that in a little. Harry under fire has given us good reads on how several people have reacted. Well, with wiggles suddenly making a lot of noise that would make me look completely horrid if Harry flips town, yeah, I'd rather smash the guy who's trying to lay a trap before calling his potential bluff. Like I said, if this makes me look bad, and I suddenly get mislynched, I know it will just get the town the scum kill tomorrow, so yes. Wiggles first, then once we're further from MYLO/LYLO, find out if he was bluffing about Harry or not. | ||
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