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Keirathi
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WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please. | ||
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Keirathi
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1) Mattchew: His case against talis was weak. Scib's case was much stronger, but Matt tried to take credit for the lynch. I have no trouble believe Matt could/would bus his teamate on day2, especially just a few hours after a townie came out and made a big case. It's also a bit worrisome (and WIFOM) that towards the end of the day, sciberbia mentioned that he was going to be pushing gonzaw today, and then again not longer after sciberbia laid out his case, Matt follows in with a case again. 2) Gonzaw: I was willing to vote him at the start of the day because I legitimately read Risen's cop claim post as "I have a red check on gonzaw" (I assume s0l did too, since he hopped on the wagon too). His early posting after the claim was pretty ridiculous and I find it hard to believe that town gonzaw didn't realize Risen was claiming cop, but his posting later in the day really feels like desperation. Not that mafia don't get desperate when they are close to being voted, but I dunno. I can't shake the feeling that the talis connections are being blown out of proportion and that gonzaw is fighting so hard to save himself because he is town. 3) Risen: I think I've made it perfectly clear that I think there was no reason whatsoever for a real cop to claim. You had virtually no chance of getting shot that night if you hadn't said #whatacopout, so for someone "trying hard not to get shot", that seems like something suspiciously bad to be saying. But for all that, I'm just not sure a scum would play that stupid. Maybe they have some master plan such as this, but it seems like such a huge risk. I also don't like how he gave himself outs ("if gonzaw flips red, Matt is scum, if he flips green, keir/scib are scum"). Anyways I've pointed out my problems with him for most of my filter for today, which is significantly long. 4) Milton: Holy shit this post looks bad. As much as the cases against gonzaw look scummy, theres no way I would say he's spewing shit and half-baked opinions all over the thread. The roleblock claim is weird, but I can't necessarily think it is scummy if there's the possibility that marv was RB'd and shot night 1. scib/s0lstice/s&b/drop are all conditionally townie to me atm. | ||
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Keirathi
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Agree 100%. | ||
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Keirathi
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I won't let a NL happen though if it can be helped at all. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 06:14 gonzaw wrote: When is the deadline? 5pm CST, aka 43 minutes. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 04:43 Keirathi wrote: EBWOP: Formatting. WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 17 2012 04:51 Keirathi wrote: 1) "Gonzaw's parrot" - + Show Spoiler + gonzaw Townie Reads: Vivax, solstice, scib, tali, me; Risen, me; austin, Scum Reads: Risen, S&B, matt; austin, S&B, me, drop, risen; S&B, tali, austin; Tali, Drop, solstice, matt, risen, me; Null Reads: marv, austin, Risen;; Arguments against: Drop, Risen, Milton, matt; matt, Risen; Matt, Risen, votes: Drop, me, vivax;;tali (Note: the ;'s indicate changing from day to night and vice versa) That's just a quick list and I probably missed some. You could claim that literally anyone was gonzaw's parrot and you'd be mostly correct. As far as I can tell, tali has only really made pushes for Drop and austin, so its a pretty weak argument imo. @Milton: this is a snippet from my post about sciberbia day2. Check the spoiler. Yes I have tried to keep up with him. | ||
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Keirathi
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Unvote Vote: Mattchew | ||
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On July 20 2012 06:37 Keirathi wrote: As much as I'm unsure about today, I feel a little stronger about Mattchew than gonzaw. Unvote Vote: Mattchew ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew Fix'd | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 06:41 gonzaw wrote: Okay, EVERYBODY post your reasoning for voting Mattchew today: Milton, Keirathi, I didn't really see you wanting to vote Mattchew today, why the insta vote switch? Milton already posted a little bit, but could you post further reasons? I already posted why. Keirathi wrote: 1) Mattchew: His case against talis was weak. Scib's case was much stronger, but Matt tried to take credit for the lynch. I have no trouble believe Matt could/would bus his teamate on day2, especially just a few hours after a townie came out and made a big case. It's also a bit worrisome (and WIFOM) that towards the end of the day, sciberbia mentioned that he was going to be pushing gonzaw today, and then again not longer after sciberbia laid out his case, Matt follows in with a case again. I also gave some thoughts about you in the same post. I'm guessing you just missed it. But today is almost certainly going to come down to you vs Matt, and I feel stronger about Matt than I do you. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 06:55 sciberbia wrote: @keirathi, @miltonkram, @risen Are you sure you guys aren't just being influenced by gonzaw's loud defense and you just feel less guilty about mislynching mattchew? Are you sure mattchew is actually more likely to be scum? I haven't really found gonzaw scummy all game until today, and most of that was because of his early play after Risen claimed cop. I did, however, think Mattchew was scummy yesterday, and nothing he did today made him look more townie. I still think you are tied in with him too hard because he's been buddying you and copied your reads. | ||
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Keirathi
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How? | ||
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Keirathi
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I'm wary as fuck of sciberbia right now. | ||
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On July 20 2012 07:07 Risen wrote: Yes, yes, I threw my partner under the bus at the last second even though I could have no lynched. URIGHT Is that so impossible to do? Buy yourself some town cred, and all. However, there's no way in hell you get lynched tomorrow, and probably not the day after. If you live that long, you are a person to be looked at again. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 07:08 gonzaw wrote: Hye S&B! Do you plan on backing up this statement now? I'd like you to convince me there is a Framer that can get a buddy of his to turn green to a check, if you know what I mean  I'm not really sure where you're going with this? WBG came into the thread and said framers can do both, but can't self-target. If Risen is cop, then S&B and s0lstice are 100% clean. | ||
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Keirathi
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S&B && S0lstice 100% confirmed town, UNLESS Risen is a townie fake claiming cop. | ||
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On July 20 2012 07:14 gonzaw wrote: Can Framers frame a scumbuddy so cop checks on him come back green? I'd like wbg to answer this question now (if he can) since it can confirm 2 townies to us 100% (solstice+S&B) He already did. On July 20 2012 06:35 NoSmurfHere wrote: Framer can do both. He cannot target himself. | ||
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Keirathi
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On July 20 2012 07:16 gonzaw wrote: Oh nevermind, I guess we can't have confirmed townies then  ...UNLESS THE FUCKING MASON CLAIMED!!!! ARGHGHGHHGG What. Yes we can. Matt was a GOON. That means if the last scum is a framer, they couldnt target themselves. So there are 2 options: 1) Risen is a cop, and both of his checks are legit. 2) Risen is the 3rd mafia. | ||
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