• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:19
CEST 04:19
KST 11:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris63Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15
StarCraft 2
General
Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me)
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ The Korean Terminology Thread Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game
Tourneys
[IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1184 users

I Can't Believe it's not Themed MiniMafia - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#1398
[b][green]WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#1399
EBWOP: Formatting.

WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#1411
Ugh, 2 hours until the lynch and I have no idea what to do.

1) Mattchew: His case against talis was weak. Scib's case was much stronger, but Matt tried to take credit for the lynch. I have no trouble believe Matt could/would bus his teamate on day2, especially just a few hours after a townie came out and made a big case. It's also a bit worrisome (and WIFOM) that towards the end of the day, sciberbia mentioned that he was going to be pushing gonzaw today, and then again not longer after sciberbia laid out his case, Matt follows in with a case again.

2) Gonzaw: I was willing to vote him at the start of the day because I legitimately read Risen's cop claim post as "I have a red check on gonzaw" (I assume s0l did too, since he hopped on the wagon too). His early posting after the claim was pretty ridiculous and I find it hard to believe that town gonzaw didn't realize Risen was claiming cop, but his posting later in the day really feels like desperation. Not that mafia don't get desperate when they are close to being voted, but I dunno. I can't shake the feeling that the talis connections are being blown out of proportion and that gonzaw is fighting so hard to save himself because he is town.

3) Risen: I think I've made it perfectly clear that I think there was no reason whatsoever for a real cop to claim. You had virtually no chance of getting shot that night if you hadn't said #whatacopout, so for someone "trying hard not to get shot", that seems like something suspiciously bad to be saying. But for all that, I'm just not sure a scum would play that stupid. Maybe they have some master plan such as this, but it seems like such a huge risk. I also don't like how he gave himself outs ("if gonzaw flips red, Matt is scum, if he flips green, keir/scib are scum"). Anyways I've pointed out my problems with him for most of my filter for today, which is significantly long.

4) Milton: Holy shit this post looks bad. As much as the cases against gonzaw look scummy, theres no way I would say he's spewing shit and half-baked opinions all over the thread. The roleblock claim is weird, but I can't necessarily think it is scummy if there's the possibility that marv was RB'd and shot night 1.

scib/s0lstice/s&b/drop are all conditionally townie to me atm.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#1414
Also I just want to say again that Mason: I hate you.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1421
On July 20 2012 06:05 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:03 Miltonkram wrote:
@ s0Lstice
I've considered the Mattchew lynch. There are things about his play that don't sit well with me, but I've given him the BOTD because his case against gonzaw was pretty good. If you can drum up support, I'll consider him.


>.>

<.<

Agree 100%.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#1424
s0lstice: err, I just made a post with my thoughts about Matt. Yes, I would vote him.

I won't let a NL happen though if it can be helped at all.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#1425
On July 20 2012 06:14 gonzaw wrote:
When is the deadline?

5pm CST, aka 43 minutes.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:24 GMT
#1429
On July 20 2012 04:43 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Formatting.

WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please.

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#1437
On July 17 2012 04:51 Keirathi wrote:
1) "Gonzaw's parrot" -

+ Show Spoiler +
gonzaw

Townie Reads: Vivax, solstice, scib, tali, me; Risen, me; austin,

Scum Reads: Risen, S&B, matt; austin, S&B, me, drop, risen; S&B, tali, austin; Tali, Drop, solstice, matt, risen, me;

Null Reads: marv, austin, Risen;;

Arguments against: Drop, Risen, Milton, matt; matt, Risen; Matt, Risen,

votes: Drop, me, vivax;;tali

(Note: the ;'s indicate changing from day to night and vice versa)


That's just a quick list and I probably missed some. You could claim that literally anyone was gonzaw's parrot and you'd be mostly correct. As far as I can tell, tali has only really made pushes for Drop and austin, so its a pretty weak argument imo.


@Milton: this is a snippet from my post about sciberbia day2. Check the spoiler. Yes I have tried to keep up with him.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:37 GMT
#1444
As much as I'm unsure about today, I feel a little stronger about Mattchew than gonzaw.

Unvote
Vote: Mattchew
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#1453
On July 20 2012 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
As much as I'm unsure about today, I feel a little stronger about Mattchew than gonzaw.

Unvote
Vote: Mattchew


##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew

Fix'd
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:44 GMT
#1464
On July 20 2012 06:41 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, EVERYBODY post your reasoning for voting Mattchew today:

Milton, Keirathi, I didn't really see you wanting to vote Mattchew today, why the insta vote switch?
Milton already posted a little bit, but could you post further reasons?


I already posted why.

Keirathi wrote:
1) Mattchew: His case against talis was weak. Scib's case was much stronger, but Matt tried to take credit for the lynch. I have no trouble believe Matt could/would bus his teamate on day2, especially just a few hours after a townie came out and made a big case. It's also a bit worrisome (and WIFOM) that towards the end of the day, sciberbia mentioned that he was going to be pushing gonzaw today, and then again not longer after sciberbia laid out his case, Matt follows in with a case again.


I also gave some thoughts about you in the same post. I'm guessing you just missed it. But today is almost certainly going to come down to you vs Matt, and I feel stronger about Matt than I do you.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 21:57 GMT
#1487
On July 20 2012 06:55 sciberbia wrote:
@keirathi, @miltonkram, @risen
Are you sure you guys aren't just being influenced by gonzaw's loud defense and you just feel less guilty about mislynching mattchew?

Are you sure mattchew is actually more likely to be scum?


I haven't really found gonzaw scummy all game until today, and most of that was because of his early play after Risen claimed cop.

I did, however, think Mattchew was scummy yesterday, and nothing he did today made him look more townie.

I still think you are tied in with him too hard because he's been buddying you and copied your reads.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:00 GMT
#1497
On July 20 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:57 Keirathi wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:55 sciberbia wrote:
@keirathi, @miltonkram, @risen
Are you sure you guys aren't just being influenced by gonzaw's loud defense and you just feel less guilty about mislynching mattchew?

Are you sure mattchew is actually more likely to be scum?


I haven't really found gonzaw scummy all game until today, and most of that was because of his early play after Risen claimed cop.

I did, however, think Mattchew was scummy yesterday, and nothing he did today made him look more townie.

I still think you are tied in with him too hard because he's been buddying you and copied your reads.

Wow this is so scummy


How?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#1513
Thank fucking goodness.

I'm wary as fuck of sciberbia right now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#1528
On July 20 2012 07:07 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:04 s0Lstice wrote:
Risen is not confirmed town. stop that

Yes, yes, I threw my partner under the bus at the last second even though I could have no lynched. URIGHT


Is that so impossible to do? Buy yourself some town cred, and all.

However, there's no way in hell you get lynched tomorrow, and probably not the day after. If you live that long, you are a person to be looked at again.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#1531
On July 20 2012 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
Hye S&B!

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:39 strongandbig wrote:
On July 19 2012 12:28 gonzaw wrote:
Framers only frame townies to get a red check (never heard of framers being able to frame their own buddies to get them to check "town"...that's what Godfathers do).



This is egregious. Every time a framer has been mentioned in a thread since I've started playing TL mafia, someone has mentioned the possibility of framing their teammates; there's no reason to assume the opposite so blithely.

It's just, like, enough is enough - at a certain point we have to assume that this is malicious. I just can't decide what the odds are that Gonzaw would actually do as much work as he is claiming and posting without even reading the OP.


Do you plan on backing up this statement now? I'd like you to convince me there is a Framer that can get a buddy of his to turn green to a check, if you know what I mean


I'm not really sure where you're going with this?

WBG came into the thread and said framers can do both, but can't self-target.

If Risen is cop, then S&B and s0lstice are 100% clean.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#1535
EBWOP: Wait...

S&B && S0lstice 100% confirmed town, UNLESS Risen is a townie fake claiming cop.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:15 GMT
#1539
On July 20 2012 07:14 gonzaw wrote:
Can Framers frame a scumbuddy so cop checks on him come back green?

I'd like wbg to answer this question now (if he can) since it can confirm 2 townies to us 100% (solstice+S&B)


He already did.
On July 20 2012 06:35 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:43 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Formatting.

WBG: can we get an updated vote count? And clarification on the Framer role (Can he make teammates return green to cop checks, or only make townies return red? And if he can make teammates return green, can he target himself?), please.


Framer can do both. He cannot target himself.

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 19 2012 22:17 GMT
#1544
On July 20 2012 07:16 gonzaw wrote:
Oh nevermind, I guess we can't have confirmed townies then

...UNLESS THE FUCKING MASON CLAIMED!!!!


ARGHGHGHHGG

What. Yes we can.

Matt was a GOON. That means if the last scum is a framer, they couldnt target themselves.

So there are 2 options:

1) Risen is a cop, and both of his checks are legit.

2) Risen is the 3rd mafia.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 168
WinterStarcraft131
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 10551
Artosis 830
Sharp 90
sSak 63
Icarus 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm103
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1572
Stewie2K272
semphis_31
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King48
Other Games
summit1g10572
tarik_tv7981
shahzam791
JimRising 601
C9.Mang0574
Maynarde137
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2274
BasetradeTV27
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH203
• davetesta52
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21997
League of Legends
• Rush424
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 41m
Afreeca Starleague
7h 41m
Soulkey vs Barracks
EffOrt vs Rush
Monday Night Weeklies
13h 41m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 7h
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Cosmonarchy
5 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.