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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 02:11 GMT
#4026
Back, guess we're just...waiting?

BM, if you're still around (and we're allowed to post), what actions do you steal? Is the wording "thread actions" or something more broad?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 04:32 GMT
#4035
Lol, yeah. I actually got the same thing to or from risk.

Looks like that's broadcast.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 04:34 GMT
#4036
I guess if used early, one of us might have spoken up about seeing a PM to/from someone because of that. Other one might have counterclaimed that he'd seen it on someone else, and both of us out ourselves to get shot?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 06:06 GMT
#4045
Unless we believe that the VP of marketing would have skipped sending messages for two half-cycles, you can also remove

Marvellosity
syllogism
Supersoft
Q-bert-Z

As they were all checked and did not send/receive during a cycle. Could be minions, but cannot be the VP unless they squandered an entire cycle.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 14:33 GMT
#4063
Going ahead and voting Gonzaw. Don't love leaving minions with powers up, but we can be more sure, given the writing, that the message came from Gonzaw, no matter who it went to.

If there's something wonky with the other stuff, we can figure it out once we've cut off mafia communication.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 15:08 GMT
#4065
I'm good with shortened days as well, if that's an option.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 16:45 GMT
#4077
Sorry but you're caught. If you flip town, then we can all bow down before whoever crafted that fake.

Quotes from the beginning of the night are no good for you, see the start of my claim where I say I'll stop playing around, and see how I spent early night asking some questions of Rasta and then of you about your reads. Was feeling out the situation, because I felt it was very unlikely i would be NKed, so I could just snoop you D5, pick up TWO messages from day and then night, and probably make sure that I had all 3 of you nailed down.

But I tend to overthink things and make them too complicated, and didn't want to do that here. Q-bert-z's mole message is so off, and his other play fits that message as well, so there was no need to wait around and find the third scum through messages, and no need to stay hidden.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 18:17 GMT
#4083
Bah, was hoping we could get him to take risk.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 22:46 GMT
#4087
On July 29 2012 07:10 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 02:08 supersoft wrote:
it's pretty easy. if we mislynch once, i change my list.
that list strongy relys on the current flips and roleclaims.
if austin lied, he moves all the way down to the bottom instantly.


Yeah I thought so after I said that, I wasn't really paying much attention >_>

I guess I'll get lynched anyways, so remember this once I flip: lynch austin
After that Chezinu is most likely his scumbuddy, since I see no reason for scum austin to make that gambit unless it was to save his buddy from certain death (which was going to happen because of Chezinu's slip).
The fake message tried to "incriminate" Chezinu, which is a great way for people to say "oh, this incriminates Chezinu, therefore Chezinu is town, no matter what he did before" and just drop the subject altogether.

We'll still win anyways, unless the scum is syllo or something an we were deceived since the beginning.
For fun, I'll humor you. Who in this game knows your posting best? Hiro says that post reads like you, and reads like you talking to yourself in the liar game QT. I searched for <_<s and you use them both in this game and in others.

If you happen to flip town, who knows your posting well enough to fake that?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#4110
Could we get Kurumi's role PM? Everyone else has flipped with a PM, but Kurumi did not.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 29 2012 22:41 GMT
#4111
Gonzaw, if I'm chairman of marketing, how did I see the PM that risk.nuke received from Chez last night?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 29 2012 22:47 GMT
#4113
I do appreciate your vote of confidence in my apparently diabolical scum play. Hopefully I'll live up to it if I ever actually roll scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 29 2012 23:13 GMT
#4118
So Q-bert-Z just happens to bold the word mole in his earlier post, but it turns out he's town?

And the third PM from N1, confirmed by WBG, just happened to materialize out of thin air?

Plus, in either of your scenarios, rastaban is town. I just happen to know his role PM, despite all other mafia flipping with VT fakeclaims?

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 29 2012 23:31 GMT
#4121
On July 30 2012 08:24 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 08:13 austinmcc wrote:
I just happen to know his role PM, despite all other mafia flipping with VT fakeclaims?

*sigh*

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&currentpage=192#3834
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&currentpage=195#3890

It's obvious you just claimed the same thing he did


On July 28 2012 06:05 rastaban wrote:
Austin, can you give me something specific from your role, so i can confirm you are a legit Snooper too?
On July 28 2012 06:08 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:07 austinmcc wrote:
I'm charming rasta.

You certainly are

Thanks for fixing my mistake. Looks like I would have had us killing the wrong guys

Yup, I just claimed what he did. Except it sure looks like I actually know what I'm talking about.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 30 2012 01:19 GMT
#4131
It's payback for the timing of the olympics this year.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 30 2012 12:30 GMT
#4180
Apologies to the hosts and players.

gl town
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 19:48 GMT
#4322
Again, sorry for derping and confirming PM wording.

I enjoyed the game up until getting myself modkilled, perhaps found the setup a bit *too* interesting. Really appreciate being allowed to play this one, although I don't think I played particularly well and again...had to be modkilled. The last couple days really dragged on, but that's less to do with the setup and more to do with the mafia team not conceding.

I will say that town's power roles felt very strong. Basically 4 extra KP with the king lynches, nuke, and supersoft, a parity cop, and two message cops. Granted, we didn't, but it seemed like if either nosy employee had landed on Gonzaw or Sloosh early on, the game would have quickly fallen apart.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 19:55 GMT
#4326
On August 01 2012 04:51 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
I really liked the setup after I got over the extended majority lynch and I agree that my role was overpowered, if satisfying. Might post more thoughts later when I have time.


To be honest extended majority lynch was a major oversight by us. I think we both assumed plurality but copied the OP from a game with extended majority and forgot about it/didn't notice until someone mentioned it some ways into day 1. At that point it felt too late to change. Sorry about that!
Extended majority may have been hard on town until we got more organized, but it felt like an advantage that mafia needed to have this game.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 20:16 GMT
#4335
VE, I'll say that I thought you played well this game. Didn't consider checking you, and had you pegged as someone whose reads I was paying particular attention to.

I disagreed with you here
On July 27 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a "town leader" Chez - anyone considered a "town leader" considers VE a joke. :/

but when you say something like that it basically becomes true. Apart from your spat with supersoft and the self-deprecating leader post, I appreciated the play.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 31 2012 20:35 GMT
#4347
On August 01 2012 05:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Thx austin.

I stand by my statement - supersoft summed it up nicely in his rage. The consensus is that I get lucky. It's good to know that's not unanimously considered to be the case.

Someone can claim that you were lucky in your lynch target, but that's silly. You seemed convinced that BH was mafia because of Foolishness's flip, and, frankly, more than half the game's players found him scummy (some of us were asleep by deadline D1 or would have swapped over), so it's not like you lynched randomly into the entire game.

You got some information out of Chezinu's posts, doing more than just trying to interpret him but actively going through all his posts and working through what he was saying and what it meant (Not always town, but I found it town here just like I found people doing that town in LVI). You looked townie enough that probulous made you king, he didn't just choose a person at random. You came out with your role, let everyone know why you were choosing probulous and also the implications of two kingmakers/his choice of lynch. All of that looked very townie, and all of that led directly to both (a) lynches of scum AND (b) a more organized town.

One reason game was so boring at the end was that town finally got organized. The kingmaker lynches and the information that came out of them was an important part in getting us all organized.

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