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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#1361
I already explained why my vote never switched. And clearly I meant to switch it but as I said I got caught up in something and had to step out. That was clearly not my attention, hence I made that post saying I was going to move my vote I'm still sure syllogism is mafia but there are more important matters.

It's as risk.nuke says, dumb unorganized town. Anyone who moved their vote around more than twice in the last 8 hours of the day should be held accountable. The strange thing is is that these were all people that know better than to try things like that.

On July 18 2012 18:49 syllogism wrote:
Katina never came after randomly yelling at people for voting austin. Foolishness do you still think she cares about the game?

She's done nothing to say otherwise.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 18 2012 17:13 GMT
#1362
A no lynch huh? That's really pathetic town.

Syllogism don't you think to go after me and say I don't care because I wasn't around at lynch time. That says absolutely nothing about my alignment. You have done nothing but gone after people who think you are Mafia.

Within the last 8 hours people were bringing up random cases about numerous people for example:

WBG: brought in his case about austin. Really bugs? You should know better than that. Your behavoir has caused me to think you are Mafia. All the other games I have played in with you when it comes to lynch time you settle on a certain person and are incredibly stubborn to change your mind especially when theres risk of a no- lynch (I can vouch for this since I have tried numerous times to get you off my back and you didn't budge) Your votes were all over the place instead of trying to take charge and keep the thread focused like you usually do when you are town.

BM: You have been pretty absent for most of D1 then you come in before the lynch and try to stir things up even more (I didn't think that was even possible) You basically sheeped everyone, your votes moved all over the place as well between gonzaw and BH. I can't get a read on you because of your blatant lack of posting (until right before the deadline)

sandroba: I can say the same about you that I said to WBG. You switched your votes around so much as well and you really should know better. From what I know about your play is when you think someone is Mafia you are deadset on killing them. Much like bugs when he's town. You have accused probably 8 people this game of being Mafia D1.... That's not like you.

Mattchew: I will be post a case on you later. I'm pretty sure that you are Mafia. I still think Palmar is Mafia as well.

BH: I don't know why people are so wishy - washy about him. He's pretty scummy in his play. He never freaks out this much when he's about to die except when he's Mafia.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#1363
On July 19 2012 02:13 Katina wrote:
BH: I don't know why people are so wishy - washy about him. He's pretty scummy in his play. He never freaks out this much when he's about to die except when he's Mafia.


Not a valid point since, except for Storm Mafia which I replaced into, I have never even been closed to being lynched as town. I always freak out. Bad logic like most of your posts this game, scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#1364
YES BECAUSE IT WAS SO EASY TO GET WHOEVER I WANTED LYNCHED WHEN 9 PEOPLE ARE MAFIA AND 1/2 THE GAME IS SLEEPING. What have you done guys done to organize the fucking town? Nothing! You are so full of shit that I don't even believe I'm actually typing this to respond to you.
And Katina that post is horrible. You should know better than post that you are scum so clearly. I guess in this game it doesn't matter since we can't get anything done.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#1365
Anyone arguing about the lynch is ridiculous. It's everyone's fault, equally. We're all bad. We should have had 1) our target and 2) his/her counterwagon decided at least 12 hours before deadline...but it's D1 and we didn't, so there you have it.

Foolishness, syllo seems to be your strongest read. Whatever happened to the Foolish that was like

On January 17 2012 13:28 Foolishness wrote:
READ CAREFULLY! DON'T LOSE THIS POST! REPOST MANY TIMES

I am making this post as a way of compiling the thoughts of the few people in this game who are making sense and posting good analysis. A lot of it will be my own thoughts, but it's heavily based on a few people (should be obvious) who are the most transparent and the most obvious townies.

9 Mafia remaining. Here's the preliminary suspects: Macpo, GGQ, L. These are the people I feel we have the best case for and most of the transparent people in the thread seem to agree about these 3. Personally I think GGQ is town and we should avoid lynching him for now. Protact already gave viable reasons why Macpo is better than GGQ today, and I feel there is little to argue there. sandroba pointed out how L is acting like in Ver's game, and I couldn't agree more. We also have Incog's analysis against L.

Secondary suspects: Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees. These 3 people have garnered attention from a few people but not from everyone, so they are listed as secondary candidates. I am of the belief that all 3 of these people are mafia. evantrees is already mentioned by Incog. I think Cyber_Cheese highlighted a good summary of chaosquo here. Most of it is similar arguments to Macpo.

Bill Murray as red? I think so. Others have cast suspicion but there's not been a full analysis anywhere. A few people have commented that the election "feels" weird in some way, and I definitely sympathize. The votes for Bill Murray come across as the most suspicious: lots of random votes there. Personally I was surprised he even got into office (remember I was out all day so I saw the results without reading the previous 20 pages). I do realize I may have initially pushed him into candidacy, but I shall take responsibility for that and see to it that he's lynched in the near future. But to be simple: Bill Murray posted a lot, and got into office. Since then he's been pretty passive at the helm (so has BC I realize). That's good enough reason to warrant a ton of suspicion, as he should be actively scumhunting and posting without fear at this point.

Remaining mafia candidates: Jackal, Opz, kingjames, zeks. Incog has an analysis against Jackal as we know. I am not on board with him being mafia yet. Traditionally when he is mafia he posts paragraphs, and not one-liners. However he warrants suspicion for having an apathetic attitude.

Opz is someone who I believe Sheth was the first to cast doubt on, and I must say Sheth is definitely onto something. I know of the past Opz as a town player who is aggressive, not afraid to call people out on their bullshit. That's something we aren't seeing much of this game. He's posted a few of his own thoughts, but there is a clear lack of effort. Bored townie who is facepalming at having to read 100 pages? Possibly. Mafia hiding in the shadows? Fits better.

kingjames is called out on by Incog, and there's further analysis by BC. His last sentence is the perfect sum to kingjames: "The key thing to note is that in contrast to his town play where he is outgoing and analytical, his posts in this game are very subdued, seem artificial and feel overly planned." kingjames has yet to do anything to contradict this.

zeks I felt strongly about yesterday, he made a bad post which is nothing like his normal outspoken attitude (though it's been a while since he's played I think). He has since asked for a replacement and hasn't posted, but should still be looked at in the future.

Meapak_Ziphh is someone I would like to throw out there as a candidate (which shouldn't be a surprise from the few of my recent posts). What has Meapak done this game? Tried to get GGQ lynched, and unfortunately that's about all he's tried to do. There is a very aggressive push from him to kill this guy, which I find a little suspicious and slightly out of character.


Mafia: Macpo, GGQ, L, Bill Murray, chaosquo, evantrees, Opz, Kingjames, Meapak_Ziphh.

Substitute a few off candidates and I think we've found our 9: Jackal, BrownBear, zeks, Munk-E, other random inactive player goes here.

DONT LOSE THIS POST ITS SO IMPORTANT!

Writing all that I think the usefulness of this post is immediately made clear. The most prominent townies and the ones doing the analysis are all right on most of their reads. It's just each person has found 2-3 mafia on their own, and most of the time they are all different. Pooling this information together I realize it's hard to call anyone and their analysis wrong, as when you analyze the big picture everything fits together.

Anyone in their right mind would look at this game and think "wow this atmosphere is perfect for the mafia". Ver once told me that lots of times it's easier to find the mafia when the town atmosphere sucks because they will not be the ones causing chaos and disruption. Instead they will be sitting on the sidelines enjoying the show while the townies flail around. Look at all the names I've listed above. Everyone (yes everyone on that list) is guilty of apathy and does not have the interests of the town in mind. They are not thinking long term, or analyzing the big picture. They aren't playing the game, they are watching.

Macpo

Many others have said so, and though I may be biased, I still think it's best we lynch him today. I believe his case is still by far the strongest we have at the moment, especially since he has responded to his threats (with even more reason to kill him). At the time of writing GGQ has yet to say anything. We kill him (Macpo) today and spend the night figuring out who has the next best case. In the meantime, I'm going to be looking for connections between the above players to see if anyone can be ruled out or automatically included.

IF YOU HAVE FINISHED READING AND YOU ARE A COMPETENT TOWN PLAYER PLEASE READ AGAIN

Also, after sifting through this information, I feel we have a strong enough lead to start killing like there's no tomorrow.
##Vote: double lynch


....trying to push his strongest read? Huh? Huh? Tell me that it's because you were communing with other scumhunters and your reads were stronger by way of discussion. TELL ME THAT SO I CAN GET REALLY ANGRY ABOUT YOU PLAYING LOL INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING YOUR READS WITH US YESTERDAY.

No one's asking you to disassemble the scumteam again this game, but I for one was really looking forward to playing with you because of the above post from the last game I played with you (where I didn't die 17 seconds into the game...I'm never getting over that shit ). Play with us bro. Don't listen to people blaming you for a nolynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 18 2012 17:23 GMT
#1366
That's a funny post thanks. I admit that I have done nothing but gone after people I think are mafia, wish I could do more. Are you going to get back to me on Foolishness as you promised quite a while ago?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 17:24 GMT
#1367
You too Sand, stop freaking out about it. That's what they want.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 18 2012 17:25 GMT
#1368
Okay I just got another message telling me to do things, can someone fucking explain why you're wasting it like that?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:26 GMT
#1369
ROFL VE, I'm not blaming foolishness for a no-lynch don't get me wrong. I blame the TOWNIES for that. I'm just saying that he is scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1370
Yeah I'm with you there Sand. Should Kurumi not meet his destiny tonight, I say we gun for Foolish hard tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1371
Is kurumi literally talking to his scumteam in thread, or is he talking to sandro?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
#1372
EBWOP

Should Kurumi meet his destiny tonight....if he doesn't, we have to lynch him obviously. -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:29 GMT
#1373
I didn't send kurumi any msgs. That was from your superiors bro, you should follow that one.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#1374
On July 19 2012 02:29 sandroba wrote:
I didn't send kurumi any msgs. That was from your superiors bro, you should follow that one.

Well then we have another guy with your power then. Why he decided to message me is beyond me though.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:32 GMT
#1375
WTS messages. WTB bazooka.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 18 2012 17:33 GMT
#1376
To VE: I always post a list of my reads right before night ends.

On July 19 2012 02:22 sandroba wrote:
YES BECAUSE IT WAS SO EASY TO GET WHOEVER I WANTED LYNCHED WHEN 9 PEOPLE ARE MAFIA AND 1/2 THE GAME IS SLEEPING. What have you done guys done to organize the fucking town? Nothing! You are so full of shit that I don't even believe I'm actually typing this to respond to you.
And Katina that post is horrible. You should know better than post that you are scum so clearly. I guess in this game it doesn't matter since we can't get anything done.

How many people have you accused of being scum so far this game? And how many of them have you gotten killed yet?

Yeah it was easy. You were the one that was at the head of switching all the votes in the last few hours! Have you read the mafia guide?

It's so stupid because you were so obviously town but now it seems you're just having them run in circles for fun. Has anyone even hard objected to killing blazinghand? I know I was skeptical at first but as it's been said when he's mafia he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off. And that's what he's been doing.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 17:34 GMT
#1377
On July 19 2012 02:22 sandroba wrote:

And Katina that post is horrible. You should know better than post that you are scum so clearly. I guess in this game it doesn't matter since we can't get anything done.



On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote:
CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG

You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh.


i dislike you greatly
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:35 GMT
#1378
Sorry bro, by that time i couldn't see it. I hope you forgive me.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 18 2012 17:36 GMT
#1379
This is so retarded. Smart posts get ignored and people herp derp around with their votes.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#1380
Foolishness I share your pain bro, I suck at being scum as well. Some things never change.
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