EPTIn the interest of keeping things simple and on the slim chance I could get killed tonight, I will reveal everything, and I can sort of explain everything, including the two chezinu messages, in a way that makes some sense. Gonzaw, risk.nuke, and most likely, Q-bert-Z are the remaining scumteam.
(1) austinmcc, did you breadcrumb? can you prove it? blah blah? + Show Spoiler +
I did not crumb, because I'm dumb. But my play should back up my claim.
- In LV, I went conspiracy theorist and I was noob town, and survived until endgame. When I saw I had a power role, I decided I wanted to set myself up to live until endgame, because that meant more chances to get messages and hold onto them, feeling out the scum team. Marv especially can back this up, he left me alive in LV because I was not clearly scummy, but nobody cared what I had to say given the conspiracy theories. He knows I'm not an idiot though, so hopefully this makes sense - I posted conspiracy theory stuff early hoping for the same effect, to get ignored and survive til endgame. For that I'm sorry, because that decision kind of hurts town and it puts me in a mindset where I'm playing to survive and not win. I didn't contribute nearly as much as I should have, sorry guys.
- I haven't been scumhunting as much as normal, because I got complacent with my role. My role scumhunts for me, so I just wasn't as engaged this game as I have been when I was vanilla.
- My suspicions of Chezinu, the thing I couldn't explain earlier, should become apparent when I explain my checks.
- My minor defense of Foolishness, which Marv and VE mentioned, can be explained by my checks
- The message I snooped actually explain the game
(2) Who were your targets? + Show Spoiler +
- D1 I snooped Foolishness, trololol. Turns out snooping is a "malevolent night action" and so he was immune, otherwise this game would have gotten silly. I defended Foolishness later on because I'd seen no messages, and assumed that either (1) he would have been in a position of power or (2) his boss would have sent him a message D1 or N1
- D2 I snooped supersoft. Seemed town but was making some assumptions I didn't love, wanted to make sure he wasn't scum, and he didn't seem like a NK candidate for N1, so I'd get information. No messages.
- D3 I snooped Marv. Was concerned about Marv being scum, wanted to be assured that he wasn't.
- D4 I snooped risk.nuke. He was flying so far under the radar, with a tiny tiny filter but not getting lumped into anyone's scum lists. I figured he might be scum, and also figured that, if he wasn't, he was going to survive a while and would be a good target to determine the alignment of. See below
My targets should (1) explain my defense of Foolishness, saw no messages to/from him; and (2) explain my wariness of Chezinu. Chezinu had those posts where he wanted someone to get into the system and find a message from the CEO and then get it to Chez so Chez could screw with mafia. When I saw the part of Foolishness's PM that read -
Any malovent night action on you fails (besides vigilante shot) and you are notified that someone attempted that action but not who.
I thought that Foolishness had informed his minions that someone used "snoop" on him, but didn't know who, and that Chez was trying to draw out the person with that power. I couldn't explain that without giving away my role, thus the suspicions without explanations(3) What message did risk.nuke send/receive? During D4, risk.nuke either sent or received this + Show Spoiler +
lololololol
hahaha seriously this game cracks me up, I think you should know what makes it funny by now knowing all the info I gave you
lol the hosts must be laughing their asses out. I know were are very likely to lose so I don't really have much hopes, so I'm laughing too.
So, we are on the verge of losing, so I think we may need some drastic actions. And this is all what I can think of:
I think you should use your Broadcaster ability today
Why? Because once sloosh flips scum, I don't really want people to believe his PMs were real, which heavily incriminates some of us when it actually doesn't (since he's not the real mole, you should know that by now....or he is and is very stupid and everything here is a giant coincidence, whatever).
I'm saying you should use your ability since I doubt there is something we can do in the thread to change the tide of things. Mostly because:
-Most people think I'm scum and nobody listens to anything I say, so I can't do shit
-Nobody listens to anything you say either, and you trying to do something "unexpected" will turn all eyes on to you and maybe even out you and get you lynched sooner or something.
So, I want you to use your ability to prove to people that there is a scum minion with another ability other than "Commuter" or whatever sloosh said, or at least that there is a hidden ability nobody has seen before.
It may likely not work, and we may likely still all die horribly in consecutive lynches or something, but it's worth a shot.
If it also confuses people it'd be great as well.
Hmm, a message that's proven to come from scum but confuses people, that should be hard to make.
Anyways, I'll try to come up with something, but if you don't find it acceptable (remember I suck at this kind of stuff), come up with your own message such that it follows these rules:
The 2nd one should be a priority. If it can confuse people, make them doubt things, make them waste time discussing it, etc it would be better than just proving it came from scum.
Hell, maybe you can prove it came from someone else with its content but still creating confusion, that would be better
So....hmm, let me think.
Maybe something like this:
Yeah I dunno I suck at this kind of thing
I also don't know if making it obvious the message is from scum would have many benefits, opposed to the benefits it could give us if people think the message is from the hosts as a clue or something, or maybe as a last will from sloosh or something to confuse them even more.
Like I said I'm not good at this, so I'll leave you to think of something that may change the tide of the game
(as you can see that message doesn't change the tide of the game >_>
You could include it in a bigger message though, I dunno)
I also added a bit of latin that if you put on google translate incriminates Chezinu.
Don't do that yourself (post the translated message), let other paranoid people (like VE) do it and accuse Chezinu later or stuff like that.
If you can come up with better ways then great, but don't make it too obvious or something.
Info you can use on the message:
As you know, if both sloosh/MZ claimed mole, and MZ's claim is true, then sloosh has to be mafia.
MZ is not my minion, and I hope this doesn't get censored....but if it does: come on guys! Could you let this little tiny detail pass your censors? We are in a tough spot here :3
So, MZ is not my minion, I'm not sloosh (yeah this is obvious whatever CENSORED or not I don't care). MZ is a mole, therefore he has to be the Chairman of the Board's minion, therefore sloosh is Chairman of the Board.
I guess MZ could be real BAD cop or something and sloosh is stupid mole, meh maybe you could leave out the "Chairman of the Board" thing in the message in case we fuck up and sloosh is the real mole >_>
(that would be embarrasing <_< )
You can use that to your advantage in the message as well to spread doubt.
I won't tell you the name of the remaining minion but it should be pretty apparent using the info I told you before and by the request I'm doing right now.
Also, I knew none of you were the real mole
No lovely minion of mine would back-stab us, I know that :3
inb4 one of you really are and I'm getting this whole thing backwards....just in case <_<
hahaha seriously this game cracks me up, I think you should know what makes it funny by now knowing all the info I gave you
lol the hosts must be laughing their asses out. I know were are very likely to lose so I don't really have much hopes, so I'm laughing too.
So, we are on the verge of losing, so I think we may need some drastic actions. And this is all what I can think of:
I think you should use your Broadcaster ability today
Why? Because once sloosh flips scum, I don't really want people to believe his PMs were real, which heavily incriminates some of us when it actually doesn't (since he's not the real mole, you should know that by now....or he is and is very stupid and everything here is a giant coincidence, whatever).
I'm saying you should use your ability since I doubt there is something we can do in the thread to change the tide of things. Mostly because:
-Most people think I'm scum and nobody listens to anything I say, so I can't do shit
-Nobody listens to anything you say either, and you trying to do something "unexpected" will turn all eyes on to you and maybe even out you and get you lynched sooner or something.
So, I want you to use your ability to prove to people that there is a scum minion with another ability other than "Commuter" or whatever sloosh said, or at least that there is a hidden ability nobody has seen before.
It may likely not work, and we may likely still all die horribly in consecutive lynches or something, but it's worth a shot.
If it also confuses people it'd be great as well.
Hmm, a message that's proven to come from scum but confuses people, that should be hard to make.
Anyways, I'll try to come up with something, but if you don't find it acceptable (remember I suck at this kind of stuff), come up with your own message such that it follows these rules:
- It shows the message was sent by scum, meaning scum have a remaining power left
- It confuses people and creates more chaos
- It shows sloosh's PMs are not reliable, but doesn't make it obvious that it's the purpose of the message sent
The 2nd one should be a priority. If it can confuse people, make them doubt things, make them waste time discussing it, etc it would be better than just proving it came from scum.
Hell, maybe you can prove it came from someone else with its content but still creating confusion, that would be better
So....hmm, let me think.
Maybe something like this:
Yeah I dunno I suck at this kind of thing
I also don't know if making it obvious the message is from scum would have many benefits, opposed to the benefits it could give us if people think the message is from the hosts as a clue or something, or maybe as a last will from sloosh or something to confuse them even more.
Like I said I'm not good at this, so I'll leave you to think of something that may change the tide of the game
(as you can see that message doesn't change the tide of the game >_>
You could include it in a bigger message though, I dunno)
I also added a bit of latin that if you put on google translate incriminates Chezinu.
Don't do that yourself (post the translated message), let other paranoid people (like VE) do it and accuse Chezinu later or stuff like that.
If you can come up with better ways then great, but don't make it too obvious or something.
Info you can use on the message:
As you know, if both sloosh/MZ claimed mole, and MZ's claim is true, then sloosh has to be mafia.
MZ is not my minion, and I hope this doesn't get censored....but if it does: come on guys! Could you let this little tiny detail pass your censors? We are in a tough spot here :3
So, MZ is not my minion, I'm not sloosh (yeah this is obvious whatever CENSORED or not I don't care). MZ is a mole, therefore he has to be the Chairman of the Board's minion, therefore sloosh is Chairman of the Board.
I guess MZ could be real BAD cop or something and sloosh is stupid mole, meh maybe you could leave out the "Chairman of the Board" thing in the message in case we fuck up and sloosh is the real mole >_>
(that would be embarrasing <_< )
You can use that to your advantage in the message as well to spread doubt.
I won't tell you the name of the remaining minion but it should be pretty apparent using the info I told you before and by the request I'm doing right now.
Also, I knew none of you were the real mole
No lovely minion of mine would back-stab us, I know that :3
inb4 one of you really are and I'm getting this whole thing backwards....just in case <_<
(4) Did he send or receive? + Show Spoiler +
Message makes clear that most people think the sender is scum and so he can't do shit. Therefore, risk.nuke is the receiver. Also, towards the end of the message, there are 8,000 "<_<"s and ">_>"s. That's what actually gave it all away, lol. Search the TL mafia forums for that, and you'll quickly see who uses those a lot. Our buddy, who everyone thought was scum, Gonzaw.
Therefore, Gonzaw is the President of Marketing. You can back that up with his reads. He was pushing Zealos like the other scum we've flipped. He was pushing Katina, now Katina implicated. risk.nuke is one of his minions, and has the Broadcaster power. The message also shows that they wanted to use that power to (1) cause chaos and (2) cast doubt on Chezinu.
Therefore, Gonzaw is the President of Marketing. You can back that up with his reads. He was pushing Zealos like the other scum we've flipped. He was pushing Katina, now Katina implicated. risk.nuke is one of his minions, and has the Broadcaster power. The message also shows that they wanted to use that power to (1) cause chaos and (2) cast doubt on Chezinu.
(5) What is the Broadcaster? + Show Spoiler +
I'm assuming risk.nuke got to plant a fake PM somewhere. Look at the message. It's clear they want to throw people off of SlOosh's PMs, which were apparently real. They want to cast doubt on chezinu. Somehow, the broadcaster can send out a message, and I guess the power is to fake a message between A and B? Still not entirely sure on that, but we can flip risk.nuke to find out
(6) Who is the last scum? + Show Spoiler +
This is why I didn't reveal immediately, figured I was guaranteed to survive another day, and could snoop Gonzaw and put his messages together. But we've got such a nice streak going and I shouldn't overthink this, so I'm claiming.
I think the last scum is Q-bert-Z. risk.nuke's message confirms that SlOosh's PMs were real, and that the real scum team was implicated by the messages. Q-bert-Z both called out lurkers, mentioned chaos, AND had that mole message. He is the most likely candidate.
I think the last scum is Q-bert-Z. risk.nuke's message confirms that SlOosh's PMs were real, and that the real scum team was implicated by the messages. Q-bert-Z both called out lurkers, mentioned chaos, AND had that mole message. He is the most likely candidate.
Read this over. I would like to flip risk.nuke tomorrow. When he flips broadcaster, we can see his power. If it explains the other message Rastaban saw, then Rastaban is most likely town. If it doesn't, Rasta could be the last scum.
