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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 19 2012 19:07 GMT
#1760
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 19 2012 19:40 GMT
#1766
On July 20 2012 04:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.


Just as an aside, it's okay if you think I'm a bit scummy, just check out Zealos-- he's clearly Captain Scummer McScummy of HMS Scummytowne. He needs to be lynched tomorrow and there's now two ways around it. I promise it won't take long, his filter is short.

idk what to think about you anymore blazinghand, I had expected you to quietly slip away once the pressure was off of you but instead you've stuck around which is definitely points in your favor. You still may be scum but at this point there are a lot of people I'd rather lynch ahead of you.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#2008
I really don't think switching is a good idea. This has been a great day for town so far but I don't think it's wise to take our eye off the ball. The last thing we need is a repeat of d1. Let's just kill kurumi and then take things from there.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#2022
On July 20 2012 13:45 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 13:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I really don't think switching is a good idea. This has been a great day for town so far but I don't think it's wise to take our eye off the ball. The last thing we need is a repeat of d1. Let's just kill kurumi and then take things from there.

why do you want to kill kurumi?

Because he practically claimed scum in my eyes. Sandroba's nailed him so let's take care of that first before we move on to others. We already screwed up once so I don't want us to do it again.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#2049
Alright I can understand the BH argument no problem. I'm having a tougher time seeing the "sandro is scum" argument. Enlighten me.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 16:28 GMT
#2181
On July 21 2012 01:14 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 00:57 Palmar wrote:
your persistence is amazing kurumi.

Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her?

Don't trash one of the few people that's making sense this game.

looool
Your contributions to this game have been overwhelming foolishness, I have seen the light and realized that katina is indeed valuable to the town. How could I have not seen this before... riiiiiight.

Anyway we need to all make sure kurumi dies today. There's no excuse if he somehow wiggles out of this again. People need to remember this, it doesn't matter what alignment sandroba is at this point, kurumi got caught hook line and sinker. It'd be actually retarded if he somehow gets away.

It's great to discuss more potential lynch targets but everyone needs to make sure the kurumi lynch happens today. I've seen a couple people call him town in the last couple pages (cough rastaban cough) this is just grossly negligent failure to read the thread, don't let this sentiment somehow take hold. Again, if you think about it, it doesn't matter which side sandro is on for kurumi to be scum.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 17:49 GMT
#2204
-The Chairman of the Board and the Chairman of Marketing know 3 minions each. They can send orders to one minion every half cycle.

Seems to me that as soon as sandro sends a message to 4 people he'll be confirmed, I see no reason to kill him until it becomes apparent he can't do this.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 20 2012 18:03 GMT
#2207
On July 21 2012 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 02:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
-The Chairman of the Board and the Chairman of Marketing know 3 minions each. They can send orders to one minion every half cycle.

Seems to me that as soon as sandro sends a message to 4 people he'll be confirmed, I see no reason to kill him until it becomes apparent he can't do this.


You're pretty loose with your interpretation of the rules MZ. :/

I have no idea what you're talking about. The OP says the chairmen dudes can send PMs to their minions, they have three minions each. Once sandroba sends to more than three people we'll know he's not a chairmen. I didn't really feel it necessary to include this one:

-The CEO knows the Chairman of the Board and the Chairman of Marketing. He can send orders to one of them every half cycle.


Since it's obvious that if he's not a chairman he can't be the CEO.


Where exactly is my interpretation bad?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#2720
Hi everyone I'm back, the return trip took longer than expected.

Anyway I'm on p114 and catching up.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 23 2012 02:44 GMT
#2775
Alright done!

I'm happy with a Palmar lynch, no need to rehash things there.

I don't think GGQ is scum. I honestly think he doesn't have enough time.

Rastaban is still very much scum and I'd love if people would start paying attention to him more. In fact, I'll update my case with his latest and greatest when I get the chance.

I'm leaning scum on sloosh. There's so much wrong with his claim's timing and that doesn't even take into account him not shooting kurumi.

This is just what I have from my initial read through. I'll go over things more carefully, update the rastaban case, and come to a decision about sloosh as time allows.

For now: ##Vote: Palmar
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 23 2012 21:40 GMT
#2878
so we're pretty much just waiting for the flip now.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 23 2012 23:11 GMT
#2919
Syllo is fine. If palmar flips town I honestly think there should be some sort of penalty for playing against his wincon.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#3185
I'm not scum, I'd appreciate if nobody does anything hasty and kills me when the day begins. If I'm going to die I'd like a chance to make one final pitch.

@the people calling me scum. Palmar backing off of me is not in fact indicative of my alignment. Since Palmar was not an executive, the argument that I must be an executive as well falls apart really fast. Similarly, the argument that I have been playing passive is ridiculous as well while I recognize that I haven't been as active as some games, my posts haven't been passive. A lack of 24/7 activity on my part does not equate to passivity.

For our upcoming lynch I think zealos is our best bet. Between sandroba's trick and his posting I think the case on him is very solid. As for sloosh I'm going to say scum but he's not as high up on the list of people I'd like to lynch as my dear friend rastaban (surprise) is. In fact I think probulous should kill rastaban tomorrow with the power VE gave him.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#3189
Well let's look at that game for a second since you brought it up. I honestly thought you were the scummiest person at that time during that lynch. I was more than willing to go balls deep when I was very certain that you were not only scum, but the best possible lynch target for that day.

Let's contrast that with this game. D1 the lynch should have been BH. If you go back and read the end of the day I was working very hard to try and ensure that we even had a lynch. D2 Kurumi was obviously the best option because of the Sandroba PM, I'm still astounded he flipped town. D3 Palmar was easily the best option because of the foolishness situation. Note a theme here, I fully agreed with the person who was getting lynched. The guys who was under the gun was acting scummy and I wanted them to die. It would have hurt the town and been very nonconstructive if I had pushed for rastaban say on the day we killed Palmar. It's just dumb to accuse me of not going hard after rastaban when I agree with the guy up to die. I've brought up rastaban because at some point we're going to run out of obvious lynches (since we have zealos that day hasn't arrived). My rastaban case has actually started to pick up some steam which I'm glad to see, as soon as there isn't a better obvious lynch I'll take my turn and get him killed.

I can get someone killed when I want to VE, you of all people should know this. However the time isn't right for a rastaban lynch. It would have been completely idiotic if I had tried to get him lynched in place of any of the others who have died so far, and further more I have no incentive to do so when I agree with the guy getting lynched. All the other people to die have been in my opinion, the scummiest person in the thread. The day we try and lynch someone who I don't think isn't the scummiest will be the day I jump up and start screaming bloody murder. Until then I'll wait my turn to get rastaban killed.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:47 GMT
#3203
On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position.

No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:50 GMT
#3210
On July 25 2012 09:48 Probulous wrote:
Yeah alright VE. I completely disagree but arguing isn't going to get us anywhere.

Tomorrow, MZ dies.

why

none of you actually have anything against me. The case is basically an extension of Palmar repeating over and over "lynch MZ." After awhile it caught on I guess -_-.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#3212
On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position.

No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).


Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ.

What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#3214
On July 25 2012 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position.

No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).


Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ.

What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.


You don't trust Probulous? He's great dude, look who he chose for king yesterday.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 00:53 GMT
#3217
On July 25 2012 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position.

No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).


Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ.

What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.


You don't trust Probulous? He's great dude, look who he chose for king yesterday.

oops EBWOP:

Oh I think he's town but I don't want him to do anything hasty.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 25 2012 02:57 GMT
#3249
On July 25 2012 11:23 Mattchew wrote:
This is a fucking stupid dance. Lynch MZ cause you VE supersoft and syllo (and myself) all agree he is scum. This doesn't have to be some stare down between you and VE...

no

none of you have a case. Since we're all suggesting targets, I'd say you should lynch zealos. He's just about confirmed red because of sandroba, once he's out of the way we can actually spend the day arguing with each other over who to lynch. While yesterday was great because we killed scum, it kinda sucked in terms of discussion because it was so obvious.
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