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HiroPro i'm still waiting for a legitimate explanation for you fake-nuking | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote: Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread. Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with. *I*, on the other hand, am 100% confirmed town (to myself). | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote:you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum. And it's for this reason I can't automatically block Kurumi. And how am I supposed to know that you can ##nuke without having nukes? I'm not intimately familiar with chezinu, the man is utterly opaque to me. He had (or so it appeared) edited a post and for all I know he was planning to launch his nuke for being modkilled. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:37 wherebugsgo wrote: it doesn't mean RoL is town, but since Kurumi is scum you have an interest in stopping a scum nuke. When Chez "nuked" you it seemed like you just panicked. You could've waited however long you wanted to on that block if you're town, and if you are town it's in your best interest to wait. But, you chose to use it before the mod confirmation of the nuke. Well, yeah I panicked, I don't want to die! Death is bad. Admittedly, in retrospect, it would have been wiser to wait for the day to get closer to the end, but I wasn't thinking that at the time. I made a mistake. But I don't see how this mistake is more makeable by scum than town. After all, a scum Blocker wouldn't want to waste his bliock on a fake nuke either. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:38 wherebugsgo wrote: Now you're just being deliberately dense and acting ignorant. You've also just displayed that you're not reading the thread. You know what I hate? People who are both scummy and ignorant of the happenings of the thread. You fall in that category right now. Okay, so what's ignorant in that post? 1) I can't automatically block kurumi -- seems reasonable 2) TYPICALLY in games with dayvigs you're not allowed to ##kill unless you have the ability to do so (as in that game where V7 was a jack and shot soap) -- also reasonable 3) I'm not familiar with chezinu -- I'm not. check my history. 4) he looked like he edited a post -- he did. I'm not the only one who was fooled, I'm sure THATS A REASONABLE POST. Don't make it out like it's not. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: [/b]If I rolled a block ability as town and there was a confirmed scum who used a confirmed nuke power, I would block the confirmed scum because it's in town's interest to stop that scum from achieving his agenda. Stop him from killing RoL, over stopping someone from killing you, when you know you yourself are town? I'd save the guy I know to be town: myself. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: This is false, you can write ##kill as a VT, it just won't do anything. This has happened in multiple games before. The general consensus is to wait for a mod to confirm the action before acting in reaction to it. You did not follow this convention. Multiple games I wasn't in, a general consensus I wasn't part of. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't give a fuck about your history, the fact is that if you're reading Chezinu's posts from this game you should understand what kind of a player he is. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he's a troll and thus should only be taken seriously if he's acting serious. The fact that you didn't realize this by now is a strong suggestion that you're not reading his posts. Really? More of a troll that Kurumi this game, or QBZ with his nonsense? Or Layabout with his literally not posting? No, I think I had good reason to be afraid of a guy who uses a bolded hash command in the thread. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: This is the confirmation for me that you're not reading the thread. Someone else WAS fooled, but it was directly clarified by a third person that it was a fake edit. In fact, it was another scummy person who thought Chez edited (it was Meapak) and the fact that you didn't read the clarification but assumed he would get modkilled is an incredibly strong indication that you are scum. [/quote] For what it's worth, AT THE TIME I MADE MY POST, I was mobile. I was playing via phone, and okay, sure I missed Meapak calling it out and getting clarified. BUT AT THE TIME, I thought it was legitimate, and I figured he just wanted to nuke me since people have been taking potshots at me at the time. This was during normal commute hours for PST (where I live) and I a made a post to this effect: On July 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: Lol how srs r we ##unvote ##vote syllogism This should hold down the fort till I get home. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:55 Probulous wrote: BH do you actually have a blocking ability? Still trying to get my head around this. Yes. My role is 1-shot day blocker. | ||
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On July 17 2012 13:06 Probulous wrote: Then why didn't you make a push for a Chezinu lynch? I mean you have already voted for him in game. Then he randomly sends a nuke your way, you obviously believed him because you used your power. But instead you side with bugs on the layabout lynch. I don't know if it alignment indicative but it is hard for me to picture you having a read on someone and then suddenly it changes when they nuke you? Chezinu needlessly nuking me does not make him a scum player. I didn't block him because he's scum, I blocked him because he was nuking a town player. I'm going after layabout not because I want to be WBG's butt-buddy or because Chezinu is somehow more reasonable but because layabout needs to die. There seems to be some confusion here guys: nuking a town player doesn't make you scum, nuking a scum player doesn't make you town. Most scum dont' know each other's alignments. Shit's crazy. Chezinu throwing a nuke at me does not make him scum. | ||
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On July 18 2012 05:06 supersoft wrote: maybe Kurumi is some kind of jester. That would explain his desire to get lynched -_- last post from me regarding kurumi btw. he's not longer existing. Unlikely given the high scum count this game. He's just trolling at this point and is worth of being ignored and derided. Currently catching up in the thread. Tentatively my plan is to address any additions to the case against me, and articulate some good cases against Syllo and Laya. I might see something else on the way though. | ||
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On July 18 2012 05:07 Kurumi wrote: I want town to no-lynch. We have a town dying already, maybe second too. We don't need third. Maybe luck will shine upon your flailing and you hit one of the scum (33% is a nice percentage) we no-lynch, and then where are we? We're in the same spot tomorrow, less one town player. I'm not gonna lean on some hypothetical DT to figure this game out for this. lynch is town's weapon and not using it at every opportunity is preposterous on its FACE. | ||
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On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote: What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand You know, GCQ, I get it. Other people are asking you why you've posted a reply to MZ and voted me with no explanation, but you don't feel a need to respond to them at all since they're not nearly as sexy as me. At the very least, answer me, the guy you're voting: why did you vote me? what's your case? | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:45 Katina wrote: Gah! Blazinghand! It's like you know! My strategy is actually to insta-delurk SECONDS BEFORE getting voted. Much more town cred that way. | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote: However I do strongly believe that Austin is a capable player and a capable scumhunter. In particular his question to Kurumi of "aren't you curious about what out-ed you?" is incredibly strange. He's treating Kurumi like scum, but instead of moving on and trying to find other scum he tries to get sandro to roleclaim. What difference does knowing sandro's role make in determining sandro's alignment? I mean, there are 9 scum in this game. It's phenomenally easy to scumhunt just in terms of numbers, yet Austin's sole concern has been the balance of sandro's claimed role. Yeah, I hate to be "that guy" who just agrees with an existing case, but right now, I'm that guy. Think about what Austin was up to. If we examine the motivations for such questioning, it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. As a townie, your thought isn't to question to setup or to ask about whether a strong town role makes sense in an 18-9 game. Your thoughts are based on scum-hunting, and A) you probably won't be an sandro's ass and B) assuming you are on sandro's ass, you'll be consistent about who you think kurumi is and you'll be on sandro's ass about his behavior, not the potential specifics of his role. especially given role=/= alignment. A townie wouldn't naturally have this train of thought, but scum would. ##unvote ##vote: Austinmcc I've gotta do some work and then get home. Katina, I don't suppose you'll be online in about 3 hours? I'll be able rip apart your case with spears of pure townie logic then. | ||
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