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On July 17 2012 06:58 gonzaw wrote: Okay just one quick question: Could Kurumi have used his nuke without claiming he used it? I didn't see the "nuke post" saying "Kurumi launched a nuke" This mass vote-swing towards Kurumi is suspicious as fuck (although I haven't read the thread so there may be something else to it >_> ) You haven't read the thread and yet you keep posting random things. Good job. | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote: Sandro why did you claim that you could trick mafia into revealing themselves when you had only tricked one player? PSA: No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread! Meh maybe I should have waited, but I think I'm pretty likely to get killed before getting another use anyway, seeing that the other players that could get shot instead of me are either trolling or not posting enough. Also the other advantage is now mafia will second guess every message they receive. | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:32 Blazinghand wrote: welp ##unvote ##vote: Kurumi Tomorrow we lynch Syllo Nope tomorrow we lynch you =P. You guys lynch syllo day 5 or so if he has not raped all mafia by then =) | ||
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We need to confirm that RoL actually nuked kurumi and if he did we lynch either BH or laya, I'm cool with both. | ||
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Yeah I kind of want to kill BH too. Thing about laya that bothers me is that I didn't think mafia would be balsy enough to do what he just did. His filter is certainly lacking, but it is so obviously suspicious that I wonder if mafia wouldn't be more careful. | ||
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It can be basically summed up as he prodded someone in the very begging of the game and didn't follow up. He asked questions. He didn't bother defending himself (defense of yourself in mafia actually serves very little purpose imo). None of those things are pointing to one alignment or the other, so really what is your case? | ||
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The way syllo played so far actually is not similar to the way he did in responsibility mafia and you can see that reading your case. Here he questioning and prodding people and that actually produces information. On the examples you gave he was making general statements about game design, setup, etc, while staying away from actually giving out any useful information. The reason I think syllo may be scum this game has nothing to do with what he posted so far but actually what he hasn't posted compared to what I'd expect him to. However there could be another reasons besides being mafia that he is not fulfilling my expectations so that's why it's too early to tell. | ||
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On July 17 2012 23:40 austinmcc wrote: No thanks, I'd like to contribute. You're not at all curious about the magical power that out-ed you? Sorry austinmcc, I refuse. Mafia has much more to gain from me claiming fully than town. Why exactly do you want to know? I could be mafia as chairman/president and kurumi my minion since he has a power. I could be minion with this power and used it in such manner, which makes it the same effectiveness as if I were town using it. Based on the information I presented to the thread is up to you to make a call on my alignment and kurumi's and I don't believe you need any extra information to make that call. @kurumi If somehow you are town it's going to be a very sad day for me, but you must realize the way you reacted to that msg makes you 99.9999% mafia and we have no option but to lynch/kill you. Also nuking a person who has not posted yet is not exactly the most townie thing to do and that's what made me suspicious in the first place. If somehow you are town you should look at yourself first before accusing me of playing badly. And you say I'm laying back and doing nothing when I'm one of the few arguing against the huge wagon on syllogism and actually trying to get BH lynched. @palmar I think the likelyhood that nukes are real is greater outweighs the safety of a day1 guaranteed scum lynch. If mafia has some ability to redirect nukes so be it, we lynch kurumi tomorrow and BH today instead of the contrary. Speaking of BH, have you checked how he reacted when he returned to the thread after being accused? Do you really buy that? | ||
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On July 18 2012 00:52 Palmar wrote: I have no problem with kurumi nuking rol as I already explained. And I don't think BH will flip scum. If you want to lynch someone else, MZ would be my first choice. You've said that already, but why???? | ||
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On July 18 2012 03:37 layabout wrote: There is something very demoralising about being ignored and insulted. If we are killing someone other than Kurumi it should be someone that is being actively disruptive. Town shouldn't do that but scum benefit from it. You all seem to be fine ignoring cheznu so i suggest Q-bert-Z or Blazinghand. Laya, kurumi has been nuked by RoL. You can choose to play this game in 2 ways which will make people able to read you. The first one is to post constantly and try to figure out stuff as the thread goes, in which case making small posts and commenting on the current event is okay. The other is to post very little, but when you do make it significant and address all the issues and make sure you read the whole thread and touch on all the subjects you deem important. Your play so far, to me is just unacceptable. You need to give me something otherwise I simply can't help but conclude our best option is to get rid of you right now. | ||
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Before I didn't have this much influence so I could afford to be wrong and produce information by pushing someone hard. Now if I'm wrong it's likely to be way more damaging so excuse me while I weigh my options. | ||
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On July 18 2012 05:50 austinmcc wrote: We can. I don't want to. Syllo hasn't made up a ridiculous role (I know some people don't agree, I still see the role as ridiculous). The main reason I'm pushing Sandro is because his role is ridiculous, and when offered a chance to reveal it (maybe it turns out his role is 1-shot, then it becomes believable and doesn't cripple mafia's only source of information once he reveals), he doesn't, despite thinking he's going to get shot. Because my read isn't based on his demeanor, his posting style, something off about his reads (something you can check on for a day or two), I don't want to leave him up. This post in retarded as fuck I'm sorry. Why wouldn't I as town opt to cripple mafia's only source having a role capable of doing so or not. Why would I opt to give mafia certainty instead of doubt? If I were mafia why would I not BS claim fully? You realize that even if I'm mafia I'm fucking my own team by doing this, since if I have this power as a minion only one person on the mafia team knows that I'm mafia as well. If you can explain me how I profit as mafia by doing what I did and how it is more likely for me to be mafia then town, you are free to keep yapping about your insane conspiracy theory. However if you insist on trying to force the situation into your own mold of reality I must conclude you have an agenda behind your posts. | ||
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So yeah, let's lynch austin. Leaves us more time to think about BH/Laya, which I'm not entirely positive on being scum yet. | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:59 slOosh wrote: Still mulling over this austin business, because it doesn't make much sense from either alignment: Because for scum austin to boldly go against what pseudo confirmed town sandroba, he would have to have some payoff - why bother bringing so much attention to yourself? The way he focuses on sandroba's claim does look like paranoid conspiracy theorist - I cohosted LV and if memory serves he was making really elaborate (read totally wacky) speculations. Unless it was an order from a higher up (which is hard to swallow since it means someone else who knows more decided this plan of action was worth it), I'm seeing a paranoid town. Well I used to think this way too till S&B did pretty much exactly this as scum in SS13. Sometimes you get frustrated at something as scum and just don't think much about the repercussions of what you are posting. | ||
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