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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#3701
slOosh, what candidates have you sent in for lynch so far?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7463 Posts
July 26 2012 21:42 GMT
#3702
Semi-Sane (I tried, but couldn’t resist and little insanity) Speech:

Hello everyone,
My real username is Chezinu. Mr. Walton was my alias. I know a great number of you know me as the director of communication. You may have presumed I had about 3 people working with me that had an ability to communicate. There have been rumors that I could intercept mafia’s communication lines. This is false. There have been rumors that I could censor mafia’s messages. This is false. There have been rumors that I know all the town roles. This is false. There have been rumors that I am mafia. This is false. There have been rumors that I have a role checking ability. This is false. There have been rumors that Chezinu’s play style is amazing. I would like to be this is true.

So what is truth? I would like to say in this case, it is objective and absolute. So what is the truth about Chezinu’s role. You see, Chezinu feels uncomfortable about coming out with his role. He loves to bluff and play both sides because he loves to live to troll again. By revealing who he really is, he could be placed in danger and forever end his ability to troll in the current game. How can he captivate his audience when there is no mystery? However, Chezinu must do the right thing and play to win, although it is not mentioned in the rules. Sometimes that requires sacrifice. He has to lay down his ammunition to troll and have fun for the greater good of town.
The truth… It hurts to day… I once heard in a tv show, “If the truth hurts, you are not living your life right.” Well, today it hurts to tell the truth. I think it is because I’m selfish… I just want to troll and have fun, but I must let it go! I must tell the truth.

Okay, here we go. I am…a…. Bossy Employee. There I said it. I am no longer going to do as I did when I pretended to be a bank in the game LSB hosted. You see, in that game similar to this game, I took properties of my roles and morphed it into something way more powerful. It’s all an illusion. It’s just Brown Fluff to cause chaos in the eyes of mafia and to keep my selfish self alive. Though some of you may wonder how I could possibly only be a bossy employee yet know soo much about other people’s roles and alignment. If I said, “Cause I’m Chezinu” I wouldn’t be telling the whole story. Yes, I do have some skills to read peoples, but not as advance of Ver (+host rep). There must be something more, you may wonder. Well, Chezinu bluffs a lot. From reactions of the bluff he get feedback on people’s behavior. He jokes around to get people’s guard down so that they may slip. He shoot a fake nuke at mafia to get then to panic and lie. He loves to taunt the mafia and pretends to know their plans. Sometime he may have extremely educated guesses that are accurate. He loves to pretend to be with them and act as one of them. He questions people with “trollish” questions to breadcrumb clues or get reactions. Few may pick it up, but far less don’t. Chezinu’s plans only works if he lives. For only he can read people’s reactions toward himself because he is the only one that knows his own role. He strives to live for a few days as he gathers information. Then if he is town, he reveals his findings if they weren’t picked up from his breadcrumbs. He may be late in posting (if he gets into technical beta for an mmofps game) , but he will come through if he has something to say and if that something should be said.
So, What did Chezinu do last night or the matter of fact all game? Did he just troll around?
Day1: Chezinu sends pm to a player whom he will not mention yet. Said player followed orders, but never claimed in thread.
Night1: Chezinu sends message to BH asking him to protect Chezinu cause BH wanted to get him lynched earlier. BH follows orders and never threatens Chezinu again.

During Day1 and Night1 Chezinu pretends to be mafia CEO or Chairman. This was in order for mafia to keep him alive and give them the knowledge that he sent them his orders.

Day2: I messaged VE to save my life.
Night2: I had a busy day and missed the deadline:

I also missed the posting of the day post that said foolish died (by one minute!) and didn’t read the thread til later. You can see my next post was after the whole VE got promoted thing and killing BH. I ended up reading day post and BH dying post back to back. I missed that vital page until Prob corrected me.

Day2: I sent a message to a seemingly pro-town player, that person didn’t post message in thread.
Night2: Had to pm VE again to save my life ( you see if you are a town leader and can get me lynch, I do somewhat take it seriously) Got to cover my back first and to my job second..
Wait a minute... This whole post makes it so that I’m doing my job first and covering myself second. This post can get me killed…Oh well
Day3: oh that’s today. That means I got 2 and a half hours to pm someone.. I know someone in the thread was lonely cause I didn’t message them.. but I really want to make a message to someone else.. I could pm someone all of my reads…but that’s not a Chezinu strategy way to do things..

Ok, I think I covered most questions. I think others have already been answered elsewhere in thread. So, if you got questions, just post them. I’ll stop by and skim thread.. In the meantime, I’m going to play some mmofps game… mauhahaha


posting sem-sanely in a pro-town way takes a lot of work cause you have to explain everything semi-ly instead of just posting a one or two word clue or a 1 or 2 sentence clue...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 26 2012 21:42 GMT
#3703
On July 27 2012 06:40 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh
On July 27 2012 06:03 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh

I agree, MZ seems scummier but we have to lynch slOosh at some point so better than a no lynch.

I'd reconsider Zealos and rastaban after my flip. It's not the vote itself which is worrisome, but the explanation behind it. It's for the wrong motivations that they are voting for me. I'll be checking up here and there.

I agree as long as Zealos goes first :D

Any thoughts on the actual PMs?
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 26 2012 21:48 GMT
#3704
On July 27 2012 06:42 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:40 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh
On July 27 2012 06:03 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh

I agree, MZ seems scummier but we have to lynch slOosh at some point so better than a no lynch.

I'd reconsider Zealos and rastaban after my flip. It's not the vote itself which is worrisome, but the explanation behind it. It's for the wrong motivations that they are voting for me. I'll be checking up here and there.

I agree as long as Zealos goes first :D

Any thoughts on the actual PMs?

Yours? I believe you. Your posts basically meant you had to die at some time so obviously they were town motivated. I think the supersoft thing definitely needs pursued.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 26 2012 21:51 GMT
#3705
Well played Chezinu, I really believed you had those powers thought you have to be a JOAT or Inventor or the like. I am interested to see what what you do with your PMs now. Sorry you had to reveal your role, and probably will die now but while you are alive I will support you in your pro-town endeavorers.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 26 2012 21:52 GMT
#3706
On July 27 2012 06:48 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:42 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:40 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh
On July 27 2012 06:03 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh

I agree, MZ seems scummier but we have to lynch slOosh at some point so better than a no lynch.

I'd reconsider Zealos and rastaban after my flip. It's not the vote itself which is worrisome, but the explanation behind it. It's for the wrong motivations that they are voting for me. I'll be checking up here and there.

I agree as long as Zealos goes first :D

Any thoughts on the actual PMs?

Yours? I believe you. Your posts basically meant you had to die at some time so obviously they were town motivated. I think the supersoft thing definitely needs pursued.

Where would he rank among your reads? You said you were null on gonzaw and voted MZ. Who are the other people you think are scummy and why?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 26 2012 21:52 GMT
#3707
PS Chezinu man you gotta vote.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 26 2012 21:54 GMT
#3708
I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a "town leader" Chez - anyone considered a "town leader" considers VE a joke. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 26 2012 21:54 GMT
#3709
Ok wheels beeping Syllo right now. Only skimmed and haven't had time to actually read in depth.

## vote slOosh

From phone
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#3710
On July 27 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a "town leader" Chez - anyone considered a "town leader" considers VE a joke. :/

Not at all, you have been very helpful, active and established your alignment early
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 26 2012 21:57 GMT
#3711
On July 27 2012 06:55 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a "town leader" Chez - anyone considered a "town leader" considers VE a joke. :/

Not at all, you have been very helpful, active and established your alignment early


:/

My antics are usually ESPECIALLY despised by you syllo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 21:58 GMT
#3712
On July 27 2012 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:55 syllogism wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a "town leader" Chez - anyone considered a "town leader" considers VE a joke. :/

Not at all, you have been very helpful, active and established your alignment early


:/

My antics are usually ESPECIALLY despised by you syllo.

I despise people who join games and don't play and refuse to help. You have always done the right thing so far in this game.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#3713
On July 27 2012 06:52 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:48 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:42 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:40 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh
On July 27 2012 06:03 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh

I agree, MZ seems scummier but we have to lynch slOosh at some point so better than a no lynch.

I'd reconsider Zealos and rastaban after my flip. It's not the vote itself which is worrisome, but the explanation behind it. It's for the wrong motivations that they are voting for me. I'll be checking up here and there.

I agree as long as Zealos goes first :D

Any thoughts on the actual PMs?

Yours? I believe you. Your posts basically meant you had to die at some time so obviously they were town motivated. I think the supersoft thing definitely needs pursued.

Where would he rank among your reads? You said you were null on gonzaw and voted MZ. Who are the other people you think are scummy and why?

No real ranking but top 4:
Zealous - Hiding part of his role PM
Supersoft - his reaction lol
MZ - a useless Cop Claim
You (as mole)
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 26 2012 22:03 GMT
#3714
On July 27 2012 07:00 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 06:52 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:48 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:42 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:40 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh
On July 27 2012 06:03 rastaban wrote:
On July 27 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:
I am saying this now, I would rather have MZ killed that slOosh at this point, heck, I most wanna kill Hiro or Gonzaw atm. But we need a lynch of some kind so...
Vote: slOosh

I agree, MZ seems scummier but we have to lynch slOosh at some point so better than a no lynch.

I'd reconsider Zealos and rastaban after my flip. It's not the vote itself which is worrisome, but the explanation behind it. It's for the wrong motivations that they are voting for me. I'll be checking up here and there.

I agree as long as Zealos goes first :D

Any thoughts on the actual PMs?

Yours? I believe you. Your posts basically meant you had to die at some time so obviously they were town motivated. I think the supersoft thing definitely needs pursued.

Where would he rank among your reads? You said you were null on gonzaw and voted MZ. Who are the other people you think are scummy and why?

No real ranking but top 4:
Zealous - Hiding part of his role PM
MZ - a useless Cop Claim
Supersoft - his reaction lol
You (as mole)


+1, minor adjustment to order including ranking. supersoft immediately resorting to ad hom attacks was...unnecessary and only served to discredit me without addressing my concerns. In spite of that, I prefer MZ after Zealos because of the claim.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 26 2012 22:06 GMT
#3715
Probulous - what game was it you were referring to that gonzaw went ape-shit when you accused him of being mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#3716
If Slooshes posts are correct then it means that the mirror theory doesn't hold up.
The mirror theory says Chez and Prob or VE are scum. One of the minions is either the Snoopy role or the Commuter

That leaves one role left, meaning we have at least 2 of a certain role and also as of yet our real nuke has no mafia counter part.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 22:12 GMT
#3717
Sloosh is almost certainly lying about some or all the roles we don't already know about. They frankly make very little sense. If he flips non-traitor mafia as expected, we should ignore what he said about mafia roles as it's quite unlikely that he would reveal them if he isn't the traitor. I will post thoughts about the lynch order after I see the flip.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 26 2012 22:13 GMT
#3718
On July 27 2012 07:10 rastaban wrote:
If Slooshes posts are correct then it means that the mirror theory doesn't hold up.
The mirror theory says Chez and Prob or VE are scum. One of the minions is either the Snoopy role or the Commuter

That leaves one role left, meaning we have at least 2 of a certain role and also as of yet our real nuke has no mafia counter part.


Commuter is active I think, I don't know what Snoopy does...any idea?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 26 2012 22:13 GMT
#3719
mmhmm, for now there's not a lot of point in speculating about anything slOosh wrote/posted until he flips
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 26 2012 22:19 GMT
#3720
On July 27 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 07:10 rastaban wrote:
If Slooshes posts are correct then it means that the mirror theory doesn't hold up.
The mirror theory says Chez and Prob or VE are scum. One of the minions is either the Snoopy role or the Commuter

That leaves one role left, meaning we have at least 2 of a certain role and also as of yet our real nuke has no mafia counter part.


Commuter is active I think, I don't know what Snoopy does...any idea?
I interpreted it as something out of seeing people taking night actions, seeing what the night actions were, and seeing targets for night actions.

If it's a real thing, could have been useful to find town messengers? Use a list of targets to determine who received a message that wasn't from mafia, but it'd be difficult to make your teammates aware of your role and get information out, so that seems far fetched.
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