Bureaucracy Mafia! - Page 15

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 25 2012 15:17 GMT

#3399

Oh and VE thanks for waiting! Today was perfect timeing to post that pm I sent you. In Broad Daylight where mafia can only shoot a nuke at me for me Mr. Walton and taking down their mafia system. You Mr. Walton discovered the mafia communication lines cause he can communicate himself. Then as disguising as mafia he discovered the mirror roles.

ok going for real now?

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 25 2012 19:13 GMT

#3430

On July 26 2012 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

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Probably because he'd get instagibbed:

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Maybe someone thought silly was a traitor?

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 25 2012 19:44 GMT

#3435

On July 26 2012 04:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu, Lord of Communication. I'd like to welcome you, formally, to the game. I trust you've been folliwing along and have quite a lot to say about what has been happening! I have "clearly" given reasons for wanting to lynch you in spite of working closely with you in the apprehension of Blazinghand. I would very much like ypur thoughts on the matter.

Oh yeah, almost forgot about that post. Will do it later when I'm not busy. I only have time right now to right troll comments and questions as I pop in and out of thread.

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 25 2012 20:02 GMT

#3436

On July 25 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is the PM Chezinu sent me last night...or I'm assuming it was last night because it came with the night-post.

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Your doing Great! VE. Just keep the suspension on me. Prob doesn't seem to be helping much though.

By saying after sand flips that you would know my role, I mean I had his role!
I was fake lynching sand (it was no where close - I even joked around about it in the thread, I even thought you did too) in hopes mafia wouldn't kill him. But they did..
If you noticed BEFORE Sand died, he was on my pro-town list along with you and Prob.

By saying I would be Prob's leader I was implying I was a Bossy employee. Please don't tell him the truth. Let him believe what he much for town to be united. I will break it to him later, since I'm wasting this pm on you. I'll probably message him tomorrow. BUT THE MAFIA CAN'T KNOW THIS! Let them believe that I can see roles such as Prob's, the lawyers, and the craze employee.

I said the mirror thing BEFORE Kurumi was dead and said if he was town then it means nothing!

Oh and about the two missing messages. I was really busy one day and missed the deadline by minutes. The next one went to a seemingly pro-town player. I may reveal it later. Please just trust me. I'm making a huge risk by sending this pm to you because you could still be mafia who just gave away a free present for town. But you gotta take some risks sometimes, like I did with Prob -- and it sure was proven to worth wild. I rock the PM world, where I speak the truth to few. This time its YOU! YAy! oh and the host.. cause sometimes I go a little crazy without having someone to talk to. I don't have time to find all the quotes in the thread, but I make it quite obvious. I claimed that I'm a Boss many time before Sand flipped. Now that you know what to look for it should be easy. So yeah, I'm a Bossy Employee.

Don't post this in the thread until maybe the next day or possibly a little later. Actually can you just ask me in the thread for permission? Cause revealing this pm would ruin my plans. Oh, and your the one who suggested sand. But we both realized he was innocent before it was too late anyways. But mafia killed him .

Hopefully your attacks on me keeps me alive -- I was thinking that I was most likely to get hit by mafia at this time than town anyways. But I don't want to push my luck too much.

So Chezinu is now NOT claiming that his role is called "Director of Communication" and it is instead called "Bossy Employee", the role that Sandroba flipped.

Let it all sink in. Chezinu is talking about "his plans" and whatever, but he's been TROLLING ALL GAME LONG. I don't care at all about "his plans" because he hasn't seen fit to do town any favors by making a lick of sense all game. So whatever man, don't vote for him. I think enough people will because his playstyle is, in general, disliked. Hope you like popcorn.

wait a minute.. I just realized this post was censored a tiny bit... Not too much, but that's ok.

oh and I like popcorn, btw

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 26 2012 21:42 GMT

#3702

Semi-Sane (I tried, but couldn’t resist and little insanity) Speech:

Hello everyone,
My real username is Chezinu. Mr. Walton was my alias. I know a great number of you know me as the director of communication. You may have presumed I had about 3 people working with me that had an ability to communicate. There have been rumors that I could intercept mafia’s communication lines. This is false. There have been rumors that I could censor mafia’s messages. This is false. There have been rumors that I know all the town roles. This is false. There have been rumors that I am mafia. This is false. There have been rumors that I have a role checking ability. This is false. There have been rumors that Chezinu’s play style is amazing. I would like to be this is true.

So what is truth? I would like to say in this case, it is objective and absolute. So what is the truth about Chezinu’s role. You see, Chezinu feels uncomfortable about coming out with his role. He loves to bluff and play both sides because he loves to live to troll again. By revealing who he really is, he could be placed in danger and forever end his ability to troll in the current game. How can he captivate his audience when there is no mystery? However, Chezinu must do the right thing and play to win, although it is not mentioned in the rules. Sometimes that requires sacrifice. He has to lay down his ammunition to troll and have fun for the greater good of town.
The truth… It hurts to day… I once heard in a tv show, “If the truth hurts, you are not living your life right.” Well, today it hurts to tell the truth. I think it is because I’m selfish… I just want to troll and have fun, but I must let it go! I must tell the truth.

Okay, here we go. I am…a…. Bossy Employee. There I said it. I am no longer going to do as I did when I pretended to be a bank in the game LSB hosted. You see, in that game similar to this game, I took properties of my roles and morphed it into something way more powerful. It’s all an illusion. It’s just Brown Fluff to cause chaos in the eyes of mafia and to keep my selfish self alive. Though some of you may wonder how I could possibly only be a bossy employee yet know soo much about other people’s roles and alignment. If I said, “Cause I’m Chezinu” I wouldn’t be telling the whole story. Yes, I do have some skills to read peoples, but not as advance of Ver (+host rep). There must be something more, you may wonder. Well, Chezinu bluffs a lot. From reactions of the bluff he get feedback on people’s behavior. He jokes around to get people’s guard down so that they may slip. He shoot a fake nuke at mafia to get then to panic and lie. He loves to taunt the mafia and pretends to know their plans. Sometime he may have extremely educated guesses that are accurate. He loves to pretend to be with them and act as one of them. He questions people with “trollish” questions to breadcrumb clues or get reactions. Few may pick it up, but far less don’t. Chezinu’s plans only works if he lives. For only he can read people’s reactions toward himself because he is the only one that knows his own role. He strives to live for a few days as he gathers information. Then if he is town, he reveals his findings if they weren’t picked up from his breadcrumbs. He may be late in posting (if he gets into technical beta for an mmofps game)

, but he will come through if he has something to say and if that something should be said.
So, What did Chezinu do last night or the matter of fact all game? Did he just troll around?
Day1: Chezinu sends pm to a player whom he will not mention yet. Said player followed orders, but never claimed in thread.
Night1: Chezinu sends message to BH asking him to protect Chezinu cause BH wanted to get him lynched earlier. BH follows orders and never threatens Chezinu again.

During Day1 and Night1 Chezinu pretends to be mafia CEO or Chairman. This was in order for mafia to keep him alive and give them the knowledge that he sent them his orders.

Day2: I messaged VE to save my life.
Night2: I had a busy day and missed the deadline:

I also missed the posting of the day post that said foolish died (by one minute!) and didn’t read the thread til later. You can see my next post was after the whole VE got promoted thing and killing BH. I ended up reading day post and BH dying post back to back. I missed that vital page until Prob corrected me.

Day2: I sent a message to a seemingly pro-town player, that person didn’t post message in thread.
Night2: Had to pm VE again to save my life ( you see if you are a town leader and can get me lynch, I do somewhat take it seriously) Got to cover my back first and to my job second..
Wait a minute... This whole post makes it so that I’m doing my job first and covering myself second. This post can get me killed…Oh well

Day3: oh that’s today. That means I got 2 and a half hours to pm someone.. I know someone in the thread was lonely cause I didn’t message them.. but I really want to make a message to someone else.. I could pm someone all of my reads…but that’s not a Chezinu strategy way to do things..

Ok, I think I covered most questions. I think others have already been answered elsewhere in thread. So, if you got questions, just post them. I’ll stop by and skim thread.. In the meantime, I’m going to play some mmofps game… mauhahaha

posting sem-sanely in a pro-town way takes a lot of work cause you have to explain everything semi-ly instead of just posting a one or two word clue or a 1 or 2 sentence clue...

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 26 2012 23:06 GMT

#3753

On July 27 2012 08:05 syllogism wrote:

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Well the chairmans only know 4 mafia each and they risk giving the traitor additional information. I think they specifically asked hosts how big lists of names their orders can include and four was the max.

ah so are you saying silly isn't the traitor but it is risk?

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 26 2012 23:53 GMT

#3780

Thanks for reminding me slOosh, stay pro-town my man stay pro town!

##Vote slOosh

there doesn't seem to be a better option. You poor crazy craze employee!

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 00:18 GMT

#3787

Yay! The Director of Communication will soon take over!

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 00:30 GMT

#3793

On July 27 2012 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay...okay...What in the piss?

Wasn't he presently in control of the mafia when he did that?

Wasn't he......wasn't he like the new CEO or something?

told ya the executive would roleclaim a role! hehe or did I put it in his head?

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 00:46 GMT

#3795

On July 27 2012 09:43 Probulous wrote:

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Well it kind of makes sense. I mean he knew Fool was getting shot but BH died before he could claim the kill so by claiming the kill he covers for the other mafia. Hopefully he gets the cred and gets confirmed as town but then Supersoft counter claims. Of course mafia didn't expect Foolishness to die from a town shot as well. They also didn't expect VE to kill BH so quickly. That lynch really fucked them over I think.

If BH claimed the shot he would be in the clear as long there wasn't a town counterclaim. Given how much suspicion was on him, it was probably worth the chance that there is no town vig given Kurumi wasn't shot night 1. If town counter claimed they traded the probable lynch target (BH) for a town vig.

That ninja lynch by VE meant BH never got to claim which meant that someone else could claim the cred and who better than the current "CEO". The text was bad but the play wasn't. All in all Supersoft played his role like a total bad ass, waiting for mafia to claim the cred and then outing them.

wait.. so are you saying BH didn't kill Fool?

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lol

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 01:38 GMT

#3805

On July 27 2012 10:36 gonzaw wrote:

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sloosh is Chairman of the Board.
BH is minion who responds to Chairman of the Board.

If anything sloosh told BH himself to shoot Foolishness, he didn't have to "feel that BH did kill Foo' ", he knew that BH killed Foo', since it's likely sloosh sent him the order to do so (and claim later).

Once BH died, sloosh already knew the plan so he likely decided to follow it himself like some people said before.

yeah, the reason for the one day delay vig shot is that it takes him a day to tell his minion to kill him.

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 01:52 GMT

#3808

On July 27 2012 10:42 gonzaw wrote:

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Actually no.
Foo could have messaged sloosh on D1, sloosh could have messaged BH on D1 or even on N1, and BH could have vig-shot Foo' on N1 if he wanted.
But...I doubt they would have wanted to kill their CEO on N1, so that's probably the reason >_>

I also take it the 2nd message sloosh posted had some truth in it, since it stated that he should "claim something that accounts for not shooting Kurumi on N1", which again is likely the reason for the "delay vig" claim instead of regular vig.

oh, I see. So, you know this cause you got that big PM passed down from Fool, right? He saw my post and then PMed yall to kill himself. I see..

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 06:49 GMT

#3818

On July 27 2012 14:41 Katina wrote:

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I'm glad to see that the thread isn't cluttered with people accusing everyone anymore... I did all I could in the begining of the game to help the town and find scum so don't start pointing fingers at me now.

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Mafia cannot be a person who puts pants on their head!+ Show Spoiler +

Unless putting pants on head is some sort of secret code!

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 07:13 GMT

#3820

On July 27 2012 16:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

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On July 27 2012 15:49 Chezinu wrote:

On July 27 2012 14:41 Katina wrote:

On July 27 2012 09:23 syllogism wrote:
I'm somewhat disappointed that he flipped executive as my other reads somewhat rely on him being minion.

We are going to be adjusting reads based on every flip, but right now I'm somewhat confident that the remaining mafia are

Gonzaw - executive?
Q-bert-z - minion
Meapak - Cop

Katina - executive?

She is playing like someone with too much information. She doesn't seem to be reading the thread, she only has mafia reads and she seems less and less interested in the game the better town is doing. It doesn't seem possible for someone to have this accurate mafia reads and at the same time not have a clue about who is town. Her attitude towards foolishness on day 1 and 2 was suspicious, and I think foolishness told her at some point to just bus everyone. Look at her posts when she showed up today in the middle of the sloosh claim situation. She still wanted to lynch sloosh, so she probably didn't even bother reading and wanted to lynch her because she knew that sloosh was mafia.

On July 27 2012 03:37 Katina wrote:
Keep votes on gonzaw. It's not a good idea to start switching votes right now unless we want another mislynch. Sloosh needs to die and so does Meapak. There will be prlenty of time to talk about others like syllo and supersoft after we find out what gonzaw flips and night hits. For right now it's not a good idea to get all excited and start throwing votes everywhere.

On July 27 2012 03:41 syllogism wrote:
Katina are you even reading? Have you read foolishness' flip and the PMs sloosh posted?

On July 27 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
sloosh you went from claiming to have shot Foolishness to claiming mole?

On July 27 2012 04:05 Katina wrote:
I did read. Just thought it was interesting.

Really, interesting? Then she again disappeared, not caring at all about all the very interesting developments. She doesn't even bother moving her vote after all that despite "worrying" about nolynch. She is quite likely mafia. I can't really make sense of her play otherwise.

Lynch order Gonzaw, Q-bert-z, Katina.

We should follow this order at least until one of them doesn't flip red.

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Unless putting pants on head is some sort of secret code!

The pants pic was and is still amazing... problem is it'll always remind me how bad I lost liar game lol.

Anyway I think that QbertZ should be ahead of gonzaw. I'm not sold on gonzaw yet.

Thanks for the top, I will continue my investigation. Trying to get the inner Katina Troll to immerge proves to be a difficult task. But Ask my Father has begun the process and I shall finish it!

On May 23 2012 08:13 Katina wrote:

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On May 23 2012 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 23 2012 07:35 Katina wrote:

On May 23 2012 04:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol you took orders from us, you were never part of the circle.

You're right, we don't know how scum KP works, that's why we're killing all three of you today so we don't have to worry about scum suddenly killing us all tonight. And yes, we can for sure win today.

Yesterday we made it look like we might try and multilynch to see who panicked, it worked surprisingly well tbh. Now the opportunity to kill all of you has presented itself so why not take it.

If you're going to make up statements like "my actions are inconsistent" you really should at least make up some facts to back them up.

As for the plans, the one that killed palmar/prp with the phony voting systems was my idea, the one yesterday that killed sandro but made it look like we were killing multiple people was gonzaw's idea. Really, you're just flailing at this point.

Let's look at you for a second. You have hardly played this game at all. Other than occasional jabs at Palmar, you have refused to do anything useful what so ever. You're riding on foolishness's read of you. But suddenly, now that there's a very real chance you'll die, you're talkative. You have no real case against any of ET/gonzaw/myself so instead you're reduced to wildly throwing accusations which make no sense if you think about them logically for a second (I mean seriously, is making plans really a scum tactic?). The PM to sloosh was just icing on the cake, only a scum would feel the need to quietly try and spread distrust. If you were a townie, you could... idk... make an analysis in the thread to prove your suspicions?

Could we end the day as soon as protact receives all the votes?

I am certain that gonzaw is mafia now and I'm certain that you are not. This has nothing to do with me dying. If you guys had picked me and me alone to die today I would sit here and defend myself as much as I could. The problem is the plan has a clear agenda behind it. It is not pro town. As I said I don't think you are mafia but when tomorrow rolls around you have to kill gonzaw. I didn't mean to say your actions are inconsistent. The plan is inconsistent with your circle. And I'm sure gonzaw's the reason for it.

Open your eyes and don't be a jubjub.

If I may borrow from Ace for a minute, I feel this is appropriate:

And if I may quote Ace for a minute, I feel it is appropriate:

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On May 23 2012 12:12 Katina wrote:
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Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 07:18 GMT

#3822

On July 08 2012 02:20 Katina wrote:
And to save some of you a post such as "casualman is a troll, who cares" I don't care if he's a troll. That's a terrible excuse for him not to be considered for a lynch. Mafia can be anybody, even trolls. He doesn't even have to come in and defend himself because he has you to do it for him. He is written off as a troll, so why bother right? There are going to be a lot of red faces when he flips mafia.

On July 07 2012 10:57 Katina wrote:

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I do care.. The town is just about always half divided. BKE is green on your supposed "check" So trolls can't be Mafia? I find it interesting that you would let a troll live over someone who is posting their reads and trying to help the town find Mafia. You don't know what to make of yourself? Interesting. I would imagine you would have some idea by now.

She try to kills trolls when she is mafia. So far not going after me and having pants on head is gives off a town vibe...

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 07:19 GMT

#3823

On July 27 2012 16:14 supersoft wrote:
whyt you guys dont undertand is, that we don't have to lynch the traitor.
He counts as mafia, but he wins with town. If in the OP are 7/9 mafia, there are in fact only 6/9 mafia alive because one is the traitor. We don't have to lynch him.

So are you saying there is a town traitor that counts as the mafia we need to kill if there really is a traitor?

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 07:28 GMT

#3825

I got some more leads:

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http://www.theadvocateweblog.com/?p=1540
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Sheldon/Reynolds
http://www.fark.com/comments/6917580/My-mouse-ate-my-dongle
http://desmotivaciones.es/2721019/Ponerse-vaqueros-en-la-cabeza

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 07:37 GMT

#3826

On July 27 2012 16:28 Chezinu wrote:
I got some more leads:

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earliest date of the pants on head seems to be around December 2011...

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http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8938/photo82c.jpg

A picture can travel a long ways on the internetz

Chezinu

United States7448 Posts

July 27 2012 20:19 GMT

#3900

Austin is right, the risky nuke needs to die. AND I will like to say once again, I CATCH MAFIA BY MAKING THEM TRY TO LYNCH ME! GO GO Lynch RISKY NUKE!!!

PS: rasta the order of the PMs was wrong.