EPTYou wrote 3 names there's 3 scum.
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
You wrote 3 names there's 3 scum. | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
i think sins town becuase hes stopped his scummy play and mostly becuase of the people who have been tunneling him zeph has never really given me a reason for getting a scum vibe assuming that myself prphlz and marv are all town also that leaves 4 players and 3 scum here are my base reads. top is most scummy, bot is least 1. mrzentor: for obvious reasons. how hardcore him and Ve tunnel sin. and a mostly becuase of his refusal to give his reasons for his accusation, thus being not helpful to town at all 2. Ve: i get a scum vibe from him strongly because of how he posts. he is very much passive agressive/very agressive. he was being all not helpful at all by refusing to answer to slOosh. after he was tunneling sin he just accuses mrzentor. changing his vote doesn't make him scum but i feel as though the scum point of view from it would help. he might think that mrzentor will be lynched weather or not he jumps on the wagon and in that case if they are on a scum team he will get accused for not being on the wagon. if they arn't on a scum team and mrzentor were to flip town it would make him look more town because of how hard he was tunneling sin before. but if mrzentor was town he might fair better to keep tunneling sin 3. SlOosh: i don't really get a huge scum feeling from you to start off. but being one of the 4 people who i am considering ive thought about you a bit more. you did in fact start the wagon to get sin lynched (not necessarily scummy but its something that need to be put into consideration).you didn't really mind hoping on the mrzentor lynch as well, as i recall you were in the middle of the lynch for wiggles as well. also you never really gave your concrete reasons for voting mrzentor ?. Bluelightz: dont really know where to put this guy. he hasnt really posted much in the past few pages so i dont know what his current stance is. but atm he is voting for sin which looks a little bit suspicious on its own. but he is the only one to have a decent case on him. idk i would like to here more from you guys about him. at the moment im voting for MrZentor. im also getting a little bit of "buyers remourse" but i think that he is the best choice as of right now. plus if the 3 scum is in that list of 4 people then each one of them has a 75% chance of being mafia | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
I feel like we have more evidence on Ve than on zentor He is extremely wishy washy and never actually pushed anything I feel like hes managed to go away with not actually taking a stance on something However I still do think that zentor is very scummy ##Unvote ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
and for the fact that still you arnt defending yourself your just trying to switch our target to mrzentor and sin | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
On July 11 2012 08:07 VisceraEyes wrote: And yes, I'm appealing to fear...because apparently emotion just isn't enough, I gotta get SPECIFIC. So you're a terrorist now? | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
A town would actually provide reason or at least make an effort | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
so he dies today? honestly i would be equally if not more on board for a mrzentor let see people who i think are town(of course no one (but marv) can be completely confirmed) marvel-confirmed vigil prphlz-claimed cop me zeph sin remaining. SlOosh bluelightz mrzentor 3 mafia are left. | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
SlOosh. mrzentor. bluelightz heres my case on sloosh sloosh- basically i agree with most of the points brought up by zeph and marv the only people he has been accusing in the last 2 pages of his filter are zephrid, and prphlz both of these players are thought of as confirmed town. a scum would of course want to cast suspicion on two members who have a good rep On July 11 2012 10:55 slOosh wrote: I'M PISSED OFF BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE GUTS TO LYNCH ANYONE THIS GAME. APPARENTLY LYNCHING SCUMMY PEOPLE IS TOO EASY, AND SO WE GOTTA LYNCH SOME TOWNIE LOOKING GUYS WHO GET PISSED OFF. Whatever. Lynching me is better than a no-lynch. Either switch back or I'm self-voting so town can get their act together. right here is is screaming at us to switch back to Ve. and then later he claim to self vote so we can get a lynch. hes trying to shove the suspicion somewhere else(onto a townie) and he is claiming self sacrfice for the town sacrificing yourself sounds townie but doing it while trying to shove suspicion onto someone else is downright scummy once he is fighting to lynch a player who is town i dont like how after he came under suspicion he just exploaded. its ok to defend yourself but 80 percent of page 4 in his filter are things like this On July 11 2012 10:59 slOosh wrote: Because we found scum and because of his passive aggressive junk everyone is chicken to lynch. this is not helpful in the slightest to the town and ended up in getting one of us lynched after he survived he came right out of the gate and tried to get zeph and prphlz lynched my last note on him is that almost all of his points on "why zeph is scum" dont involve him explaining why its scummy On July 11 2012 15:14 slOosh wrote: Actually doesn't matter. I think Zephirdd is the last scum. I think building a case on MrZentor is a moot point. Scum attributes: Inconsistency, pushing agendas This comes in what I initially thought was just failure to read / forgetfulness, but upon review I think that they are slips and conclusions which are arrived at with reasoning that doesn't match. Considerable are his views on the blues. The second point puts forth the premise: prplhz cannot be scum if Sinensis is town. Problems in reasoning: Sinensis' alignment has no bearing on what a scum prplhz would do. If a scum prplhz didn't claim roleblock, he would have to produce a read. But even if he saw that a scum prplhz claiming not roleblocked as the stronger play, it shouldn't rule out Sinensis as scum. In fact, it would actually cast doubt on D77 the claimed jailor on the grounds of game balance. Sinensis has nothing to do with claiming roleblock or not. How did Sinensis go into the confirmed pool? He considers the slip as null, but is using it to call him confirmed. There is an agenda here. Call Sinensis town. Why? So he can call prplhz town too based on weak reasoning. Also so he gets to push MrZentor, VE and BL. He critiques them for being on a Sinensis lynch, even though his reasoning for why Sinensis must be town is tenuous. His followup posts when marv addresses the flaws in thinking show that he wants to call prplhz town, but again on weak reasoning. It's basically "scum prplhz should have done this, and he didn't, therefore he is town". This has heavy, heavy contrast to his D1 assessment of him where he basically calls him scum every other post. Also note how fast he is to defend prplhz after the cop claim. Couple of other things which show faulty reasoning that doesn't fit conclusions. Opposes a MrZentor lynch without a legitimate reason. This comes when his lynch actually starts building and rolling on D2. Wants to say "we shouldn't lynch MrZentor". Uses the reason "his relation with MsZontar is important"? Wants to call MrZentor scum. Reason: "He didn't read Sinensis' old games and come to the same conclusion that I did". Brings the MrZentor lynch option back again when the VE lynch is pretty much set. Additionally, discredits marv for no reason. Haunting clairvoyance (read as mafia know the town list), that VE is town. He takes the quote that I say (my preference for VE over MrZentor lynch) as a sign that I am scum (who is hesitant to vote for scum buddy). Sure. But then he makes this post: Where now labels me scum, and therefore Zentor is scum in association with me. It's the complete opposite of what he just said. Because I'm hesitant to vote for Zentor, he must be scum? Then how am I scum? Zephirdd is making stuff up to push his agenda. Zephirdd has shown much inconsistency and weak / unrelated reasoning to reach the conclusions that he wants to. This reveals scum agenda. if you look at his reasons as to why he is scummy none of them would actually make me think he is scummy.( this means he is grasping at straws trying to get zeph lynched) for expample. when he calls zeph out for switching to mrzentor and "discrediting" marv. he berates zeph for scum-hunting basically and not wanting to follow a hunch. he is trying to warp zephs wards so that he sounds more scummy i dont have time becuase i might die in 5 minutes so ill give my quick reasons for the others i think mr zentor is scum because of all the reasons that were brought up when we were about to kill him. we had a good case on him. he has been very quite in the past day. i think he is trying not to screw anything up and he thinks that he can get away with being a tad lurkky. my last member of the scum team was between bluelightz and sinensis. a few of his posts about slOosh convinced me that he was more likly to be scum On July 11 2012 10:36 Bluelightz wrote: Umm VE, now what should we do then? Mass switch to sloOsh with 25 minutes remaining? right here he is trying to not get slOosh lynched. On July 11 2012 10:41 Bluelightz wrote: I don't know... VE seems more townie now..... I'll support a switch I guess but :3 right here though he condones to lynching sloosh but he doest compltely give in i feel like from a scum stand point right here is where he realized that SlOosh was not going to get lynched becuase we did not have enough people to switch over. so he jumped on the wagon so he did not look like he was defening the man who was trying to get a town player lynched. and then his last post accusing slOosh i feel is scummy as well. On July 12 2012 10:36 Bluelightz wrote: Alright, my case on slOosh. Preface: I really thought slOosh was town before the Day 2 Lynch, but after that him sealing VE's fate pissed me off, and the way he insisted it was terrible, this case will be divided into Day 1/Day 2 Sections. [ right now i feel as though he is trying to do the opposite in this post as he was trying to do in his other ones with sloosh. now he know that slOosh will be lynched and that 80 percent of people have scum reads on him. as scum he would be foolish to be the only person not on that wagon. but he is one of the last to have jumped on it. if he was town his mind should have been harder to sway. he wouldnt have voted sloosh unles he actually thought he was scum not by just saying "i support a switch i guess" | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
anyways. this doesn't make any sense they should've killed me. or they are just storing a shot or like zeph said. there could be a medic and we both healed the same person. which would mean that they had a strong arm. if they didnt then i would be dead atm i think they are storing the shot though | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
which brings the quesion. is there a medic here? | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
all i am saying is that i find it scummy how you didn't give a single reason as to why ve was less scummy. you claim to have supported his lynch. but all you did was vote for him and said things like "i gues" and "im ok with unvoteing" if you actually wanted people to join your cause you would say something like " slOosh is scum" also theres the fact that you started saying that he looked less scummy 5 minutes before the deadline. in my opinion i think that you knew he was town becuase you are scum and you wanted to give everyone the last image of you defending Ve before he got lynched i might be wrong about this, id like to here from others | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
I was trying to get people to recognize the possibility that they didn't delay You're whole case on me Is based off of me saying that the majority of people think that zeph and prplhz are town And that I asked for medic claim(which I did not) | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
On July 13 2012 09:31 slOosh wrote: prphlz plays cop like that because he is most likely scums. D77 looks like he is dodging my medic question. This guy can't be newb town. If you won't be swayed off my lynch, can we at least talk about my cases? I'm curious to see what people think of them, apart from the people they are directed to. Starting with D77 since it seems the most straightforward of my cases / "newb" players tend to be easier to read. So your case on me is that I'm digging your medic question? I answere it like 2 pages ago I've read your case on me. The only points you bring up Is that i think prplhz and zeph are town and that "I was trying to get a medic to claim" wich I wasn't I'll say it again so u can understand. I was trying to ask people their thought on the possibility of a medic and me heinz the same person to block the strongarm. | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
If I wanted a claim I would have actually asked for one "if there is a medic here could you claim". Read my other two posts explaining why I wasnt trying to out the medic | ||
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