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grush57
This man has posted nothing of use for town. He has a collection of 20-30 oneliner posts, which are random filler and votes. Mafia is not a game of pointing fingers and calling random people scum. Mafia is neither a game of sheeping others. Mafia is an elite mindgame where everyone's thoughts matter, and only with co-operation can town take the win.
grush57 has not co-operated with anyone. He has not provided analysis. He hasn't provided reasoning for his scumreads. He hasn't provided reasoning for his vigshot. (OMG, U Scum! Doesn't count.)
Some people say that because he revealed he didn't get his first pick, thus revealing two Samuses, he has to be Town. Why would scum do that?
Go and take a look at all the setup metagaming it caused. Me and Saturn both got several accusations of being scum, just because of this one revelation. I know I'm town, and Saturn could be either. Yet this caused a lot of confusion and derailed the thread from the actual scumhunting to setup metagaming. And what does grush do? Nothing.
He makes a vigilante shot without giving any reasoning. Why would a townie ever do that? What is even more concerning to me, he has been accused of being scum several times this game, but he hasn't bothered responding a single one of them, neither do anything pro-town.
I ask you, why is this man alive? He really needs to die today.
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On July 07 2012 04:54 HomerunBat wrote:
cephiro, who is grush's partner?
Stay tuned for the next episode of SSB-64 Mafia...
In all seriousness, I'll give you a full case once I've finished re-reading filters. I'm a bit unsure at the moment.
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Okay I've been reading everyone's filters through, and I must say none of them are particularly enchanting.
I started to think what if talis is scum.
The problem is that if tali was scum, from my perspective it's a bus in every possible scenario. I know I'm not scum, so that leaves 4 possibilities:
talismania + grush57: Extremely unlikely as I can't believe both mafia members would be the only lynch options two days in a row, + they've been voting against each other since the start. Also a bus.
talismania + Saturn: A bus at this stage seems needlessly risky as talismania absorbed DK last night, so he is not carrying anyone yet. It doesn't make any sense as Saturn could easily push for grush to be killed, thus letting talismania get to pick a target for his DK ability next night, enabling Saturn to bus him the following day if necessary. I guess this is possible if Saturn was super cocky due to having 2.5 KP total, but I can't see this happening either.
talismania + HRB: A bus situation again. Although HRB's role isn't known (except that it's not a Samus or DK.), this combination seems unlikely as well. HRB made a case on me and talis, I don't see why he would push for talis that hard instead of going for me, as I reckon at this stage he wouldn't even have to convince grush to join the bandwagon.
talismania + kingdedede: Bus situation. A yoshi+kirby scumteam seems quite lacking if town has 2 DK, 2 samus + something. Hard to see a motivation for the night action, why would they want me to gain town-cred when talis was up for lynch D1? They could have shot dedede and bussed him forward to someone they considered a threat. I just can't see this happening either.
And I know I'm town. talismania + anyone scumteam just doesn't make any fucking sense.
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On July 07 2012 06:45 Mister Saturn wrote:
Cephiro's activity levels have been quite bad, especially at deadline times, when town should be more active, and scum are more likely to excuse themselves away.
This is fucking bullshit and you know it. I've been around every single deadline in this game, go ahead and check.
On July 07 2012 06:45 Mister Saturn wrote:
And no dont try to excuse it away as a connection without a flip. No, Cephiro makes a very direct promise "If you're not going to step up your play asap, I will push you for lynch." talismania's play has been scummy and poor. But has Cephiro followed through at all? No, he's completely ignored talismania . This is a broken promise - it's lying and scummy.
- Hiro
Nice way of twisting the words in your favour. Why should I push someone I am unsure of rather than someone I am sure to be scum? I'll give you that he looks worse than you or HRB right now, but none of talis scumteam combinations makes sense to me. Add in the fact that I considered Risen, and I still consider grush the scummiest person alive, why the hell should I push talis for lynch? This is all happening too easily, it's a scum bandwagon. It has to be either you or HRB + grush.
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I think town is fucked. I'll be shooting grush no matter what so it won't be gg in the morning.
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Fucking derptown. Let grush run free and lynch the townies. Can't believe this shit.
If it's Saturn+HRB somehow, then gg, it's all up to dedede bus wifom. Saturn shot on talis and KP on grush would make it 2v2 unless dedede does a gosu bus again.
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On July 06 2012 06:59 iGrok wrote:
Lynch Grush tonight.
On July 06 2012 06:56 Risen wrote:
If igrok is town, go with the plan I listed earlier. Lynch grush, if town you have to go all in on either a cephiro/dedede scum team or two of ms/tali/hrb scum team. If grush is scum, lynch ms then tali then hrb.
Two dead townies, one simple message. How hard can it fucking be? I'm off to sleep now. Don't know if I'm even going to bother posting tomorrow. -_-
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Thanks for hosting a great game, and thanks to everyone who took part, both players and obsers!
I really enjoyed the game, and I excuse for my lack of participation in the post-game talk, but I've been getting ready for my military service that starts tomorrow. :x
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