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kingdedede
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That means there are either no Pikachus, or just a Pikachu on Grush, or 2 Pikachus (one on each of our candidates). | ||
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kingdedede
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. . . . . Nah, just kidding, but I AM going to Pamplona this weekend for San Fermin! For me, lots of wine and watching drunk tourists get mauled by bulls. For you, a weekend without my guidance. I leave you in the expert hands of my other hydra head, though. I've got it on good authority that he will lead this town to victory! I'll be out from Friday evening and back on Monday morning (Sunday night late). In other, and completely unrelated news. The stage gives us an extra lynch. I'm not quite sure how it works, but we need to decide between now and 24 hours into the day what to do with it. I'll post my reads around the deadline and feel everybody should post their reads soon. iGrok, you promised to do a lot of explaining and I want to hear it. /Acro | ||
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On July 05 2012 01:03 kingdedede wrote: Bad news everybody. I am taking a shipborne cruise. shipborne cruise is an anagram for bus cephiro risen. We bused between someone we thought was town (cephiro) and someone we had as null and probably not going to be targeted by any nastiness (risen). Full explanation will follow. | ||
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Kazakhstan80 Posts
##vote Grush | ||
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We thought of driving ourselves (we were also afraid of iGrok picking us up), but figured the risk to Cephiro was probably bigger. That was hilarious. So happy with the role choice now :D The earlier thought was to move any damage on a town player to a scummy player, but our strongest scum reads were at risk of getting shot themselves: 1. We still didn't like Tali. Grush has also voiced his dislike of Tali. Grush has KP and we thought he might shoot Tali. 2. Grush is a similar story. He has lurked and even a lynch hasn't gotten him to do anything useful. However, a bus was not really an option, because iGrok has said he thinks Grush is scum and he might have picked up Grush. Swapping a kp hit for a donkey kong ride seemed like a really bad idea. 3. iGrok also couldn't be swapped for the same reason as Tali. Grush had threatened to lynch him, so a shot was possible. We were still pretty null on Saturn and Risen, but had a townie read on HRB. I just followed SnB's advice to swap Cephiro with the player least likely to take damage. We also kinda liked that Risen had 3 stock, so was not in any immediate danger. Wasn't really expecting a double hit, though. | ||
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The only exception to that is if iGrok and Cephiro are scum together, then all my reads make no sense anymore. That now seems pretty damned unlikely, though. I'm not sold on the whole Risen-Grush connection. Seeing as Risen dies if we push him into the lava, I want to have a better idea than null and a tentative connection. Will read his filter and talk it over with Artanis tomorrow. /Acro | ||
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1. There's two Kirbies gunning for the same power. In that case he should've received a message as per the OP. 2. He's a Capt. Falcon and he shot someone protected by a Ness. In this case he wouldn't get a PM (I don't think), but don't really understand why he's up in arms about it. Anybody want to claim getting shot and protected? 3. He's a Ness and protected himself. In this case he's just confused about how the bus driver works. In general, however, this whole unknown role thing with half the people unaccountable for what they did at night is getting thoroughly out of control. I still think a mass claim is a good idea. iGrok seems to think claiming is a good idea too and is throwing up giant red flags with his play. Yes, I know I said his reaction to derping was townie, but I really don't like how he's playing in general. 1. He opposes a mass roleclaim but is pressuring everybody to claim, going so far as to lynch or push people into the lava just to get their rolename. I know his role is already out, but maybe he's protecting his scumbuddy from having to claim while simultaneously pressuring other people into claiming? I dunno. Just don't like it. 2. He threw his vote around almost as badly as Risen with no decent explanation. He voted for Tali for "pressure", yelled at Saturn because he's scum (but ironically didn't want to actually lynch Saturn, because it gives no information) and finally settled on Grush, as a lurker lynch and to get his rolename. Now he wants to push Risen into the lava unless he claims. Seems to me he just wants to do damage without really finding scum. 3. He has promised an explanation of ALL his actions a couple of times now without actually giving the damned explanation. The last time was over 10 hours ago when he promised to do it the minute he got home. Now none of these alone is really enough, but when you put it all together and read the rest of his filter, it feels like scum, despite him throwing me off with his reaction to derping it up. Also, for all you setup speculators, a scum donkey kong is a bit like a PGO, which, imho is probably one of the most ridiculously overpowered scum roles possible. If town has so much firepower at its disposition as seems to be the case, then giving scum a PGO/vengeful townie kinda balances it out. I want to push iGrok into the lava. If he's holding onto a townie, we're going to have to deal with that at some point anyway. Might as well do it now and make him lynchable. The lynch should be between him and Grush imho. Not yet sure which one has a higher chance of flipping scum. ##push iGrok | ||
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##push Risen | ||
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With neither risen nor igrok, I don't have a clue what's a good gameplan now. I'm more inclined to think tali atm, but it could be saturn, or either HRB atm. Probably still a good idea to just lynch Grush first, but have to math it out. Oh, and yay, a pokeball. Shall I throw it? Kinda tempted, even if there's only 1 in 5 chance of a really cool effect (instakill grush) and some risk of scum getting an item out of it. | ||
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Kazakhstan80 Posts
On July 06 2012 07:31 HomerunBat wrote: off-topic, but after the game s&b I'm really curious what you are doing at CERN. It has to be nuts there right now. Agreed. You celebrating? :D | ||
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If Grush is scum, we don't want him getting his second Capt. Falcon shot off, so I think lynching him is still the best bet. I think it's best to kill the strongest scumread at the moment, especially as nobody else will even give a flip, so we won't even know for sure what we did. My main paranoia is about Grush NOT being scum. I just can't figure out a scumteam then. Tali is almost certainly scum in that situation, maybe with Saturn. If that's the case then we still have a chance lynching Grush, but we may be better off lynching Tali now before he donkey kongs one of us, and leaving Grush with a Capt. Falcon shot alive. Crap :S I don't want to out-wifom myself. Lets lynch Grush. iGrok seemed to know what he was doing, even if he wasn't very pleasant about it. Everything else just seems like it's too big a risk. | ||
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Hiro/Saturn, what do you think of Tali's recent post? | ||
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Why do I have to make the deciding vote again, fuck. Feels like Emergency Mini Mafia all over again. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: talismania I'm far from certain but Acro told me Talis always looks really town when he's town and I haven't gotten that feel from his play yet given the amount of setup speculation. Nothing I've learned in the past hour or so has swayed my opinion one way or the other so I'm just going to go with the read of my other head. | ||
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