He did investigate Intact night 1. I didn't mention it because, despite his innocent result, he left the game and didn't try to protect Intact at all.

I came into the game in a bad position and was trying to play damage control.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 21:14 GMT

#790

On July 10 2012 06:11 Miltonkram wrote:

GG everybody

Good job mafia. You made it a little too obvious that you were a team IMO. I think you should have bussed one of your members during this last day cycle. It would have guaranteed the win and made this last day less of an all-or-nothing move.

Really good job Keirathi. You did great buddy. It's too bad you couldn't pull out the win.

Yea, this game was really, really silly.

The game was over today one way or the other.

And I don't really feel like I played that well. Maybe I should have shouted more, but basically all of my reads got brushed under the rug and never mentioned. It was so obvious that Prom was buying town cred all the time with the "mod confirmed townie" in every post, and I even called the playing nice with JH then killing him n1 to buy more town cred.

Oh well

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 21:29 GMT

#799

Oh PBU team: what made you roleblock me last night? Was it just a random luck of the draw?

That was basically the turning point where I realized it was going to be really hard for us to win.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 21:34 GMT

#801

On July 10 2012 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
iirc, they roleblocked you because they considered you dangerous. They didn't know you were DT but that was enough

Then why not kill me instead Milton (or even sciberbia earlier, although I can understand that one a bit more).

Killing Milton basically ruined Prom's credibility, and Umlauts as a result, not that I was able to convince anyone of that, but it really really hurt their case in my eyes and pushed both of them ahead of Hopeless for good.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 21:43 GMT

#805

What I mean when I say it ruined your credibility was the fact that both of you used the exact same scumteam.

Flipping Milton as green, when you had been saying that you were 99% sure of Fencer's guild, seems really, really strange in hindsight.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 21:49 GMT

#808

On July 10 2012 06:43 TheToast wrote:
Props on the Blind-Rawr/Keirathi roleblock. That was an excellent read that basically won you the game. He was trying to investigate AU, and so would've returned mafia if you hadn't roleblocked. This game would probably still be going if you hadn't done so.

Ermm, what? I changed my investigation target to Hopeless. I believe I sent you the adendum. Is changing not allowed?

Not that it made a difference in the long run, but if you had returned me with Umlaut being scum when I asked the investigation to be changed to Hopeless, I would have been pretty upset.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 22:29 GMT

#816

I just got finished reading through Maf QT and Obs QT.

Maf QT: I think you guys had some shaky reasoning for a lot of the things you did, but somehow still got away with it. Only explanation really is that all of the modreplaces hurt us as much as it hurt you. Pretty frustrating either way.

Obs QT:

JingleHell wrote:
And Keirathi replacing in when they're heading for mylo? I hope for town's sake he's scum. Wonder if he's going to push for his no-lynch roleclaim crap again?

Sorry for disappointing you

It really is unfortunate that neither of the 2 people you thought were scum in early QT turned out to actually be scum.

@Milton: nice grab of the scumteam!

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 22:38 GMT

#822

On July 10 2012 07:35 ghost_403 wrote:
Yeah, it really does, which probably explains why the scum team killed all of them so quickly.

I really did feel bad replacing so many people. Unfortunately, modkilling them leaves the town at such a disadvantage so fast. Losing one townie, and they wouldn't have been able to no lynch Day 3, with two they wouldn't have had a Day 3.

By the way, all of the replacements played this game very well, and I really appreciate them stepping in like that. Thanks again you guys!

Thanks for inviting me! It was a fun game and I'm glad I decided to accept.

@marv: okay, maybe it didn't hurt us as bad as it hurt mafia, but it certainly hindered our abilities to make overall game reads.

Keirathi

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July 09 2012 22:55 GMT

#826

On July 10 2012 07:51 Promethelax wrote:

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No man, replacements fucked us. We would have won no problem with the players as they were at the beginning and in the positions we put ourselves into. Instead of being able to use our Night Kills for useful things we had to use them to take new blood out of the thread.

All the replacements played really well and that was a huge issue since a mislynch is precluded on a townie playing poorly.

You played well but town was lost without the replacements.

Maybe not. You and Umlaut both jumped pretty hard on the Intact wagon, and BLinD had a DT result night 1with him as townie.

The game would have played out a lot differently if he came out and defended Intact instead of leaving. Not that it would have necessarily changed the outcome, but it would have changed the course of action.

Keirathi

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July 10 2012 20:53 GMT

#837

On July 11 2012 05:37 Promethelax wrote:

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Haha yeah but we did have that, it was me =p

If only someone called you out on it....

Keirathi

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July 14 2012 00:34 GMT

#841

@ghost: any update on the analysis?

Keirathi

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July 14 2012 02:39 GMT

#843

I'm just as interested in your overall notes as I am your notes about me.

You commented on a lot of the same things that I did in my notes (Fencar using mafia guide to defend himself, Prom's 99% quote, Fencar defending Prom out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever, etc), so just by looking at your notes I feel more confident in my ability to pick out juicy tidbits.