After looking things over, there's one thing that throws up a red flag for blind-rawr - after Fencar votes on Anacletus he remarks that he'd layoff voting because there is still 2 lurkers who haven't posted, but 2 hours later he votes anyways when literally nothing has changed other than the bandwagon has started. Caught up in group think or seeing a safe opportunity to jump on, it's hard to say.

I think I'm reading him above Bob in my Scum-o-meter now, but Intact still seems like a more solid choice. His posting has been all around abysmal and his excuses are lame. I'm going to be around right until nightfall so I won't be voting just yet, but I'm heavily learning towards Intact right now.

Myles

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July 03 2012 19:41 GMT

#522

I'm going to pull the trigger and vote intact. He seems like the best choice given the information we have. As has been discussed, there's too many inconsistencies with the bandwagon, reads, and ability to post.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 03 2012 19:42 GMT

#523

Oops, forgot to vote.

##Vote Intact

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 03 2012 21:12 GMT

#546

So no scum, not blue, not information from blues, do we even have any god damn blues?! WTF.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 03 2012 21:13 GMT

#547

We've lynched two fucking townies and learned not a god damn thing.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 03 2012 21:17 GMT

#550

On July 04 2012 06:06 Intact wrote:
Seriously guys, you made the exact same misstake 2 times in a row. WHen will you learn. And for the record, eveything I said was true.

Yea, we did, but it doesn't help at all when you clam up and stop posting when put under the gun, after barely posting at all to begin with. I'm pretty fucking frustrated right now.

Myles

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July 05 2012 01:43 GMT

#582

Yea, after this last turn of events I really have no clue. I was pretty confident about Intact, but with him flipped town my whole read has turned to shit. I'm too inebriated after 4th of July to really go over anything now, but I'll take a loot tomorrow after work.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 05 2012 21:34 GMT

#602

I'm going to be honest even though it's going to make me look bad - I still don't have a fucking clue. Unless someone slips up ridiculously, any vote I make is no better then a coin flip based on the info I can see - even Fencar at this point. Call that scummy/non-committal/whatever if you want, but its my true belief and I'm not going to write some bullshit post that about stuff I don't believe in.

And since a few people brought it up, my outburst on N2 was because I pretty confident Intact was scum, was wrong, and have greatly contributed to our own demise with my wrong reads/votes; plus we have no information from blues and can't be sure about anything - that's really frustrating.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 06 2012 21:24 GMT

#654

Whoops, sorry guys. I was super busy today and lost track of time. I thought it was like 4 o'clock -_-

Myles

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July 06 2012 22:47 GMT

#658

Ok, thanks ghost for the pardon. And again, sorry for my absence.

AU, you make some strong points imo. If you and Prom are town, which I'm inclined to believe right now, there's no reason for the scum not to at least test the waters. That there was almost no support besides you two seems far more meaningful than any of reads we've made so far. Unless something else significant comes along, I think that will influence my vote the most since words are up for interpretation, but actions speak louder.

I also think Bob's vote on himself is telling. He's played the dumb newb card pretty well, but how would you not realize putting two votes on yourself is not the way to cause a no-lynch? I think that was a scum slip.

Bob and Hopeless have my FoS.

Myles

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July 07 2012 23:27 GMT

#668

Given Keirathi's latest revelation and the results of the night, I'm thinking that Hopeless, iamperfection, and bobthelob are the scum team. Even without the confirmation on Hopeless, the case Umlaut made is 100% valid imo.

It's hard to make a solid case for bob or perfection one way or another, so it's basically down to process of elimination. I've had a town read on Prom for a while now. Umalut's last minute change makes me pretty certain he's town. And Keirathi saying his investigation revealed town on me after he was initially quite suspicious makes me think his role claim is legit - that, or we don't have a dt which seems incomprehensible for a newb game.

I still think bob voting himself is a tell that he is scum. My reasoning is that a real townie, even a dumb one, would consider the fact that putting a second vote on themselves makes it possible for scum to hop on and seal the lynch in that situation. Since he is scum it didn't cross his mind because he was focused on looking pro-town and going along with the no-lynch.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 07 2012 23:43 GMT

#670

On July 08 2012 08:37 Keirathi wrote:

Show nested quote +

AmericanUmlaut suggested that we all vote for ourselves a while back when I mentioned that we would all have to have different votes for a no-lynch to work. Assuming he read that and remembered it, it was not necessarily a scum slip, just not paying attention and thought that was still the plan.

That's why I think it was a slip, because an actual townie would be paying attention to fact that they opened to door to getting themselves lynched.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 07 2012 23:45 GMT

#671

EWBOP - That, or he really is as dumb as he portrays.

Myles

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July 07 2012 23:46 GMT

#672

EBWOP - And goddamn I messed up 'the' twice in my first post.

Myles

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July 08 2012 00:00 GMT

#674

Based on what happened, Hopeless is scum, or the mafia played some exceptional meta-gaming by predicting Umlaut's plan, since them jumping on last minute would have tied things up unless our medic got their first save of the game. That or everyone's read on you except Keirathi's had been wrong, and Umlaut's post was it's own meta-game, but that seems very unlikely at this point. Hopeless seems most likely and we have to go with that.

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 09 2012 20:36 GMT

#737

This is how I see it - either Hopeless is scum and that's why it was hard for Prom/Umlaut to round up support, or Prom/Umluat are scum and that's the reason they couldn't drum up support. I'll be voting Hopeless because I think there's far more to suggest Prom and Umluat are town rather than scum, and Keirathi's story, after further review, does seem to have some holes in it.

##Vote Hopeless1der

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 09 2012 20:59 GMT

#753

what the fuck!?

Myles

United States5162 Posts

July 09 2012 21:02 GMT

#762

You know, for as much as I was ready for this to be over, I at least wanted a satisfactory ending - wrong or right. That was the shttiest way it could have ended. A no lynch in LyLo...you gotta be kidding me.