Newbie Mini Mafia XIX - Page 2

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 02 2012 15:49 GMT

#453

The more and more i look at it the quick vote be fencar seemed like an attempt to get bandwagon going. This is my view of what happened Fencar put out a vote trying to get a bandwagon going hoping a townie would jump in. When that didn't happen the rest of the scum would not jump in because If fencar gets lynched they would make easy targets. Even subtle claims to back up fencar would look scummy.

Hopeless makes a good point if you are in fact town who should we be looking at. IF you have possible info due to your ability let us know. One of the rules is try to win by giving up you are making it look yourself to almost 100% being scum. You need to give us information to go on.

I will let you respond before i cast my vote.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 02 2012 16:08 GMT

#456

On July 03 2012 01:04 ghost_403 wrote:
Fencar has officially dropped out and will be (hopefully) replaced.

I dont know what to think now he is either the most frustrated town member ever or this is a brilliant play by the scum.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 03 2012 15:29 GMT

#494

On July 03 2012 14:48 sciberbia wrote:
Okay it is just about time for me to call it a day.

I quickly read through the filters of Hopeless1der and Fencar. On first read, Fencar actually looks townie to me. I would really not like to lynch him today, and I hope he is not modkilled.

I'm not so sure about Hopeless1der. He looks scummy for the first half of his filter, and then it's like he turns on a switch and starts posting some good analysis on Intact and others. I want to see more from him and don't think he's a good lynch today.

Who I think we should lynch today
Fencar and Intact seem to be the popular targets.

My cursory opinion is that Fencar is town. Also, he is getting modkilled/replaced. I'd really not like to lynch him today.

I think Intact might be scum, but I'm not convinced. I think we have better targets, and I'd not like to lynch Intact today.

As I've said, both BobTheLob and BLinD-RawR look quite scummy to me. I'd be shocked if neither was scum and wouldn't be surprised if both are scum. I feel strongly that we should lynch one of these two today. I feel stronger about BLinD-Rawr.

My schedule
I'm going to sleep now, and then I'll be at work from the time I get up through the deadline. So I can't do any more significant reading or posting until after the lynch. I assure you that I will be following the thread from work though. You can count on me changing my vote to the majority candidate before the deadline if that is what is needed to prevent a No-Lynch.

But for now, I'm feeling more confident about BLinD-Rawr than BobTheLob, so I will

##Vote BLinD-Rawr

I agree with a lot of the points you laid out here but i dont agree with the final conclusion. Blindy has been like several others lurking (myself included) The case that you put up against him not even close to how strong of an argument that you put out on bobthelob.

This post in particular is the one that bothers me

On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea, now on the topic of reads: iamperfection and I am very fucking suspicious We're screwed by nature of our habits. See lurking

People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive

Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them

Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue

Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above

AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either

Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong

Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know

That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up

Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower?

As you pointed out this is very wishy washy but also this only serves as attempt to confuse the town and drive us all against each other. He is effectivly saying " hey you know who scould be scum. Everybody" He could then still stay off to the sideline with his non commitment when the lynching dosent go the towns way.

What do we really have on blindy to go on besides lurking. He has given limited reads like my fellow lurkers but of the reads he did give he gave one right one in thinking jingle was town. In my view Blind has been trying to help the town while bob had been trying to hurt us.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 03 2012 15:30 GMT

#495

Vote## BobTheLob

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 03 2012 15:38 GMT

#496

EBWOP: blindy is the nickname for blind-rawr

doubleEBWOP: blindy is the nickname for blind-rawr even if denies it.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 03 2012 19:47 GMT

#524

Vote count please and time if you would be so kind.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 05 2012 13:13 GMT

#597

On July 05 2012 14:45 Keirathi wrote:

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Sorry if it seemed like I was ignoring your proposal. I am of the opinion that no-lynch is a good idea for town in this situation, but in my last game (XVIII), I proposed the same plan in the same situation (5 townies, 3 scum) and spent a lot of time vehemently defending it. In the end, I got shot down (and it wouldn't have worked anyways because plurality system instead of majority in that game, which I didn't understand) repeatedly (although in hindsight, the people arguing against me were all scum), and our doc ended up getting lynched and we lost the game.

If other people are on-board, I'm all for it. I personally think it benefits town, but I won't spend time arguing for it because we just waste time that could be used discussing candidates instead.

Not to start an argument but i dont see how a no lynch benefits us in any way. Unless we get lucky at nigh wouldnt the scum just have to convince 1 person to join their cause and its gg? To me that seems like a huge gamble for very little benefit. If we are going to win this game we need to lynch today and we need to lynch preferbally a scum with a role. I will spend most of my morning reading through the thread again and will report back later this afternoon or tonight.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 05 2012 13:17 GMT

#598

ebwop: Also how did the no lynch benefit the scum in your previous game?

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 06 2012 03:38 GMT

#605

Alright now that every single person has basically been accused of being scum lets get the ball going. Even if we have to no lynch we still have to vote like ghost said so we may as well put our positions out there. Ive been rereading most of my own posts as well as my the person who i fell is the scum. Looking back at my own posts i feel if you took the names away we would be very similar to each other but bob has shown his true colors

Bobthelob throughout the game has tried to potray this look of "excuse me im a noob just a nervous townie dont mind me" when in truth he has been trying to subtly undermine the town while trying to blend in with the fellow lurkers such as myself. He has also tried to use the excuse that he either been sleep deprived or drunk to explain the lacking in his posts.

I prefer "Paranoid as hell dude who has no idea what to do" to "towny scared out of shell" JH.

On July 03 2012 16:15 BobTheLob wrote:
Will be leaving in about 5 minuets so if you have a response to my post please post the gist of it now so I can respond

Sleep deprivation's a bitch

On July 02 2012 09:26 BobTheLob wrote:
Yay not me! :D :D :D :D :D What reads do you have on me(Besides scared/drunk/hasnoideawhattodo)

His posts attempt to make the town look at as many people as possible trying to make us all confused by not giving any real target and trying to keep low and the atention on others.

On July 02 2012 07:24 BobTheLob wrote:
Lets overthink this a bit. JH could have been killed so that he would shut up OR he so that we would be thrown off the trail of the real Scum. So it could be someone he said it was OR the opposite.

(In the same boat with promethelax but with Rum+coke>beer)

So in other words it could be anyone.

On July 02 2012 08:42 BobTheLob wrote:
Also hopeless makes since now butttttt I still think he's a bit iffy Fencer wit the early vote wtf dude! EXPLAIN

So it could be hopeless or it could be somebody else plus EVERYONE NOW LOOK AT FENCAR.

Ive made this point before he is trying to keep us confused and guessing by trying to lay blame on almost everyone this in no way helps the town. Saying it could be this guy is way for the scum to argue hey i was sucpicious of this guy and he turned scum so therfore im not scum. He's trying to cover all his bases.

However i think a more recent play is the best piece of evidence is something that happened a bit more recently. Think back to when all the crap was sliding twoards fencar. Fencar has his little temper tantrum and picked up his ball and went home but then all the attention slides away from fencar. Bob see's and whats does he do when he gets some heat.

On July 04 2012 12:11 BobTheLob wrote:
I've more or less given up, I dug myself a hole. I realize that I look scummy as hell and there is very little I can do to convince you otherwise because if I suddenly got a whole bunch of shit put together and did some epic reads it would just be me doing damage control and still look scummy. Now IMO Prome is scum and that's who I'll be voting tomorrow if we don't get anything better. Also I realize that I'm dead sooooooo... Yeah FML.

By threating to quit just like fencar did hes hoping the heat will leave him. I saw what happened with fencar and hes trying to buy another day and getting another mislynch which will basically lead to gg.

So therfore bob is scum

Vote ## bobthelob

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 06 2012 03:39 GMT

#606

also i will be more active now since i think its crunch time and i think i can be very good at this game when i put my mind to it.

I will be back early tommorow morning.

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 06 2012 14:45 GMT

#615

On July 06 2012 14:38 BobTheLob wrote:

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Wait what? I said I've dug myself a hole because I have, you've even proved that. I don't blame you for it in the slightest.

what?

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 06 2012 16:14 GMT

#624

time check please

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

July 06 2012 18:36 GMT

#631

On July 07 2012 03:23 Miltonkram wrote:
@ Keirathi
I disagree. I feel like if you look at the flow of thought in iamperfection's filter, it doesn't make sense for anyone but scum. There are other players who were pretty wishy-washy at the time, but iamperfection states, "I dont agree with the line of thinking that got the bandwagon on anacletus," before anacletus was lynched. This sounds like a player who knows Anacletus is town. I don't think any of the other players had quite so bad a line of reasoning as iamperfection, and I'm calling him out on it. I think he has the greatest chance of flipping scum of any of the players left in the game.

When you look back at what happened for the first day anacletus was lynched for basically telling a joke. All though i didnt write anything at the time i thought it was really dumb that we were just lynching someone because he made one of the cuff remark. Later their were arguments that no lynch was worse than lynching a townie so for better or worse i decided to go along with it. Looking back on my posts now they are overall mediocore in my view in that i was just trying to survive. I am trying to get rid of the wish washyness in my posts now because its crunch time and if were going to win we need to be almost perfect in our steps and im more confident in how to play this game.