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On June 28 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I don't know right now. I was too hasty yesterday with my answers.
I have to put in a monumental amount of effort to try to refocus my reads and with town's negligible chance of winning I'm struggling to find the motivation.
Again I'm spamming like a baws, but obviously I will find the effort at some stage.
Everyone seriously needs to help me with my questions and analysis, especially if it involves me.
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On June 28 2012 22:14 Shraft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On June 28 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I don't know right now. I was too hasty yesterday with my answers.
I have to put in a monumental amount of effort to try to refocus my reads and with town's negligible chance of winning I'm struggling to find the motivation. Again I'm spamming like a baws, but obviously I will find the effort at some stage. Everyone seriously needs to help me with my questions and analysis, especially if it involves me. Just kill rastaban. Refocus your reads tomorrow.
This is a fucking awful thing to say.
You cannot possibly be town.
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Seriously what townie suggests to the only confirmed townie, at the point where town is on the verge of already losing, to not bother thinking about his reads and follow someone else who is not confirmed in any way?
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Mattchew or anyone -
given the Zephirdd/xscks SK kills (we can assume this), I look at risk's filter and he was suspicious of both xsckcs and Zephirdd.
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is it reasonable to assume SK would be shooting for mafia night 1? or is there a reasonable chance at that stage they don't care so much?
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fuck I keep forgetting risk shouldn't be SK, god damnit marv
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What was risk's last scum game?
risk or anyone?
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Mattchew, I am convinced you are anti-town. Just sayin'
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prplhz scum, mattchew scum, risk.nuke scum,
shraft SK
prplhz used awful reasoning to try to push through the lynch on the townie
rest of town saw through it
risk was absent
shraft has interest in scum being lynched
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but is it really a good play for scum to hold their RB.
scum could have roleblocked VE?
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The only player at the moment where my read on risk/matt others at the moment doesn't matter is prplhz.
##unvote
##vote: prplhz
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lynch isn't until tomorrow, it's a signal of current intention/my current knowledge.
The rastaban issue
For giggles I went and looked at who had and hadn't attacked rastaban, in various manners.
xsksc attacked rastaban heavily
slOosh flip flopped but also ended up attacking him, but it was day 1
marvellosity has been flippy floppy on rastaban like a baws.
VisceraEyes had a town read on rastaban
Probulous did not attack rastaban
Shraft attacked rastaban
Mattchewattacked rastaban
Snarfs attacked rastaban
risk nuke kinda attacked rastaban but backed off him
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Shraft you can stop pretending to be town now
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how do you justify telling the only confirmed townie to not bother thinking about his reads until tomorrow?
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On June 28 2012 23:01 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum. I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input.
so you believe risk is scum?
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On June 29 2012 00:51 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 00:48 marvellosity wrote:On June 28 2012 23:01 rastaban wrote:On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum. I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input. so you believe risk is scum? I don't think so, I think he really was Roleblocked last night.
so there's 3 townies, me, you, risk, matt
seeing the problem yet?
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so you did. damn 
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risk is probably town because no-one else is telling me otherwise
I thought about your point that scum wouldn't not roleblock. While there is of course a chance that risk scum could pull off a ploy like this, scum were/are in SUCH a strong position it seems like an unnecessary risk to take when they could be aiming for roleblocking the SK from taking a shot on them.
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I'm not sure it's something I can do one at a time.
I plan on assessing everyone and then looking to see if the combinations make sense to me.
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The fact that VE, Probulous, me, and risk don't have an active scumread on rastaban is something that is weighing heavily in his favour.
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