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On June 27 2012 00:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
"Hi! My name is marvellosity, and in my spare time I like to sarcastically make fun of others' arguments against me rather than doing the townie thing of trying in earnest to find scum! I also enjoy long walks on the beach and I'm a TL Capricorn."
Really, I mean, I'm not scum - so you're not actually finding scum on your way to the gallows. You say you're a vig ya? Did you shoot Zeph? Because gosh marv, that would have just been a super shot.
I said I didn't shoot Zeph as already stated.
And I have just found scum in Snarfs.
Get lost.
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Yes, because if I'm desperately trying to save myself from the lynch as scum by claiming vigi, I would FOR SURE insist on shooting VE, because that's SURE to give me the best chance of wriggling out of the lynch, right? Right?!?!
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I'd shoot VE because town doesn't have the balls to lynch him. Snarfs is lynchable.
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Not town this game. Not talking about other towns.
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On June 27 2012 01:02 rastaban wrote:
I feel like claiming Vig was the safest claim for mafia since there is no way to disprove it with a night situation as it can be blocked and there is no second chance like a normal blue role would have where you force mafia to take care of it.
Well, quite. Which is why I'm not asking people to not lynch me because of my claim. You're lynching a townie, not a vigi. I claimed so town didn't think I may or may not have shot Zeph.
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On June 27 2012 01:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, well ignore me guys - going active lurking for a bit whilst I read Marv's filter armed with the knowledge that later in the game, THAT GUY IS CLAIMING VIG.
Stay tuned.
The vigi bit is seriously unimportant :/
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On June 27 2012 01:26 rastaban wrote:
Snarfs huge post on zephirrd just before he died seems a bit strange. Mafia would have known the kills were off and probably scrambling to get it rectified instead of writing a giant argument against someone when they knew the NK post was off. I find it hard to see him as mafia at this point.
Don't be so naive.
There's no scrambling, one PM is sent and you wait. The timing of the case is hilariously convenient.
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My premise on how I play as scum is verifiable too, but you dismiss it as WIFOM.
You are scum.
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On June 27 2012 01:30 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
His argument is thusly:
He's played this was as town before, so he can't be town!
He's not played this way as scum, so I'm going to ignore that fact and say he must be scum!
Logic fail. Actually, my argument is thusly: Premiss 1: He was recently mislynched as town Premiss 2: If he's town he'd be more worried about being mislynched because of (1) Premiss 3: He is not acting like he's worried about being mislynched Conclusion: Not town. Premiss 1 is verifiable Premiss 2 is hard to dismiss on the basis that your mislynch contributed to us losing the game and I don't think that you like losing games. Premiss 3 is reflected in your "I'm actually playing a scummy town game" defense.
@risk.nuke: You say VE is the towniest town that ever towned. Marv says he's going to kill VE if you let him live. You say that marv should be left alive. What? Now that's a logic fail.
This game is fun.
Premise 1: I never play scummily as scum
Premise 2: I therefore never get lynched as scum
Premise 3: Therefore I would not put myself in this position
Premise 1 is verifiable
Premise 2 is verifiable
Premise 3 is reflected in this game.
BUT, you dismiss the scumplaying marv argument, and only stick to the townplaying marv argument. Scum.
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On June 27 2012 01:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Like marv gets to be in charge of who he shoots...
if I live, I'm shooting VE. I'm not living on a negotiated basis.
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I suppose in PYP Redux I said I'd definitely RNG Janitor/CPR and then I didn't. Tension mounts!
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Remember in Magic, Matt, when you ended up sheeping me on Zealos despite not believing your read? How I worked out Hiro was red and I called Katina scum?
When I flip, sheep me.
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On June 27 2012 01:47 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote:On June 27 2012 01:30 Snarfs wrote:On June 27 2012 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
His argument is thusly:
He's played this was as town before, so he can't be town!
He's not played this way as scum, so I'm going to ignore that fact and say he must be scum!
Logic fail. Actually, my argument is thusly: Premiss 1: He was recently mislynched as town Premiss 2: If he's town he'd be more worried about being mislynched because of (1) Premiss 3: He is not acting like he's worried about being mislynched Conclusion: Not town. Premiss 1 is verifiable Premiss 2 is hard to dismiss on the basis that your mislynch contributed to us losing the game and I don't think that you like losing games. Premiss 3 is reflected in your "I'm actually playing a scummy town game" defense.
@risk.nuke: You say VE is the towniest town that ever towned. Marv says he's going to kill VE if you let him live. You say that marv should be left alive. What? Now that's a logic fail. This game is fun. Premise 1: I never play scummily as scum Premise 2: I therefore never get lynched as scum Premise 3: Therefore I would not put myself in this position Premise 1 is verifiable Premise 2 is verifiable Premise 3 is reflected in this game. BUT, you dismiss the scumplaying marv argument, and only stick to the townplaying marv argument. Scum. But if nobody expects you to play scummily as scum, then that's the perfect scum play T_T.
Quite clearly not.
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What a ridiculous argument. I make it through to final lylo 2 scum games in a row without ever having a case made against me, and what do I do? I change this winning formula by behaving scummily! YES!!! THAT'S IT!
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On June 27 2012 01:48 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 01:37 marvellosity wrote:
Remember in Magic, Matt, when you ended up sheeping me on Zealos despite not believing your read? How I worked out Hiro was red and I called Katina scum?
When I flip, sheep me. How is the air up there?
Rarefied.
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Sorry guys, seems Snarfs got me. Having found the perfect scum formula for surviving to endgame and getting townies unanimously killed at lylo, my next masterful play is to abandon this formula and play scummily as scum.
It's so perfect.
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Nope. My play day 1 was shit. I let myself get embroiled arguing about it (sense of ego/pride maybe) rather than just doing the sensible thing and clarifying.
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On June 27 2012 02:01 Snarfs wrote:
Well can you explain this part then:
- Why would town continue to be vague and confusing in their responses after seeing that people thought it was scummy?
And why would scum continue to be so vague and confusing when people thought it was scummy? To make themselves look more scummy? What?
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It's never too late to sway the lynch.
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