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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#702
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?

You are making weird assumptions about people's alignments. I don't know how you can assume bke is scum, or that all of Mattchew's list is town. Your assurance is just... weird.

Are you a smurf or just weirdly confident in your own reads?

Adam, wtfafkbbq
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#703
On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.

....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 08:56 GMT
#706
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch. It's impossible that every person on the Foxtrotter lynch is scum, so the only conclusion you're coming to is that all townies on his lynch are stupid and bad.

I'm sure post-game we're going to get a licking for the mass switch, but to keep on harping on and on about how "you guys are terrible, lol lol lol" is helping nothing and is just strange coming from people not at the forefront of discussion.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 08:57 GMT
#707
On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.

Officially on the ignore list. Your logic is terrible.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:03 GMT
#711
On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.

lol didn't read...
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:06 GMT
#712
I'm going to sleep. This feels even worse than TL LV because at least then there were a number of committed, rational individuals trying to push the game forward. Atm there just seems to be a crossfire of mudslinging and arguing with brick walls, while scum slink by. Meh.

I realize that I'm implying you two are stupid with my implicit posts, but at least you're fn posting. All I can conclude from many other players is that they are scum lurking or simply don't care about the game at all.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:11 GMT
#716
FT wasn't going to be lynched without marv's insistence. If you want to call mattchew scum, find reasons that don't involve FT because the connection isn't strong enough.

"FT's vote on MK was weak". You guys make it seem like this is a phony reason. This exact reason in action in another game:
On February 19 2012 05:50 TKHawkins wrote:
##Vote: EchelonTee

He rides the coat tails of other people's thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 18 2012 09:54 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 09:51 MidnightGladius wrote:
Finally some excitement! Or are you just going to run some of that point-by-point analysis with the red numbers?


you're hilarious.


DoYouHas, I'm soft defending gumshoe now. I guess you were writing up your post without seeing the updates. We have the same thoughts though. Let's lynch MidnightGladius. Or DimmuKloK

no seriously, I gtg. I love the activity though, so refreshing



He then jumps along with jaj22's post and votes for Midnight. He would not be on my radar if it wasn't for that. I can't see a strong reason for the MidnightGladius vote especially with both the people voting for him not backing up their vote once it's questioned.

TKHawkins votes me for really weak reason; guess what he was scum. Is it a legendary auto heuristic that catches scum 24/7? No, but it's a legitimate reason.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:14 GMT
#718
On July 02 2012 18:11 drwiggl3s wrote:
If your town, please post and discuss this with us. Else this is just going to be washed out by all the Mafia's random finger pointing / speculating / useless crap posts.

^ Please do.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:15 GMT
#720
Drwiggl3s, I read all of your posts; we simply have disagreements in logic.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:17 GMT
#722
On July 02 2012 18:15 drwiggl3s wrote:
Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now.

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?

you don't even sort of believe he is scum yet you want to kill him? oh my god.......................
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 02 2012 09:20 GMT
#724
On July 02 2012 18:15 Acrofales wrote:
Just saw I posted as kingdedede. Kingdedede is me (SSB game).

Also, ET is making sense and people should listen to him. ET, what do you think of Vivax and layabout?

Funny that you mention layabout, because I thought that it was odd that he said "move foxtrot up the kill list", but was completely AWOL for the switch. It seems like something that he would've liked to get moving if he believed foxtrot to be scum, since it was clear BKE was not going to be lynched. Need to do a re-read of him tomorrow. He feels odd, but layabout often posts sort of scummy (citation, TL LII jubjub).

Vivax is more curious; while I disagree with a lot of his logic, I still have him in the null category because a lot of his reactions can be explained from a townie perspective.

I'm actually sleeping. Acro, I really hope your buddying is coming from a good place because I could really use it atm.

Tell me what you think of s0Lstice?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 03 2012 00:15 GMT
#908
what
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#910
we seriously vote switched between townies again....
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 03 2012 01:38 GMT
#959
that's 2 vig shots? no claims?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 03 2012 14:01 GMT
#1026
On July 03 2012 09:59 ghost_403 wrote:
EchelonTee

Show nested quote +
At no point did anyone say
ghost wtf


I'm confused at this one statement; are you saying that because I'm the only one that said "where the hell is ghost" that tipped you off?

I wouldn't have applied early pressure to BM, nor would I have done a vote switch as scum; that doesn't fit my playstyle, but I don't expect you to believe me based just on that. I'm not an early busser (citation: TL LII jubjub, Liar Game). Also, I probably wouldn't have gone for such "easy fry" cases in mkmk and FT; why would I push two people likely to die that would incriminate me? Most of your case is based off of my hesitancy and being unsure about one case or the other, which does look bad, but that's simply how I felt on each particular issue and I've been as open as I could be on my feelings towards players. Call me hesitant, but not deceptive. I felt off about the mkmkmk lynch later in the day (a feeling which proved to be true) and thus wanted to switch. FT looked like a decent option so I went over.

I realize that I am asking for leniency based on meta which is bullcrap, and because I pushed ~2 mislynches I look quite terrible; I'm just going to try and push better lynches and act more pro-town.

I spent a lot of time arguing with wiggl3s because I detest bad logic; that shouldn't say anything about my alignment.

Going to make a few posts on who I think is scum, following.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 03 2012 14:11 GMT
#1031
On July 03 2012 23:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@ET: Yeah, pointing out that I'm gone for an entire cycle is my only criteria for finding scum. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Is this sarcasm? I touched on your other points as well, ghost.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
July 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#1931
Apologies to Mr. Wiggles, Drazerk, and the players for requesting a replacement mid-way through after there was already a spree of modkills. I've been dealing with IRL things for a while, and thought that I would be fine to play in this game, but I probably should not have signed up at all. I was under pressure when I replaced out, but I hope you guys can trust that ordinarily I can deal with light pressure like that.

I didn't read or check how the game went after I stopped posting, but I'm sure that my in-game actions/replacing out didn't help town much at all. GG WP scum team.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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