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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 02 2012 19:51 GMT
#843
I've only spotted 'crumb' in that so far.

Any anagram pros in here?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 02 2012 20:34 GMT
#857
Holy shit such losses for town <_<.

Looks like kenpachi rule didn't work this game, eh, NoSmurf?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#932
If I die, lynch/shoot marv pls.

That's all I have to say before something happens.Reasons in our filters.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#943
##Vote BKE
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#946
On July 01 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Acrofales FoS on BKX is fishy as fuck
if BKX flips scum, will you all listen to me on acrofales?
It's a JEEP tell for a FoS with a vote on someone else
Acrofales did that, lets test BKX
##Unvote
##Vote: BKX


Looks like a bussing attempt with the intention to kill acro after. But pressure on BKE went away.

Acro likely town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 06:15 GMT
#993
Dude, BM predicted BKE would flip scum when he thought that it was too late to save him.
He did that to gain support among townies for an acro lynch.

That can only mean he knew about your alignment, and so do I now.

Why don't you realize it and gg out, or do you prefer giving us some more info?
Maybe you have some kind of extraordinary defense regarding this one?

@VE

BM points to the next scum with something that can be considered a major mistake, you prefer to pick me for defending BKE together with him in earlygame.
I still think the arguments against BKE were bad at the time. They all depended on one's definiton of a newbie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 10:15 GMT
#1003
On July 03 2012 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 15:15 Vivax wrote:
Dude, BM predicted BKE would flip scum when he thought that it was too late to save him.
He did that to gain support among townies for an acro lynch.

That can only mean he knew about your alignment, and so do I now.

Why don't you realize it and gg out, or do you prefer giving us some more info?
Maybe you have some kind of extraordinary defense regarding this one?

@VE

BM points to the next scum with something that can be considered a major mistake, you prefer to pick me for defending BKE together with him in earlygame.
I still think the arguments against BKE were bad at the time. They all depended on one's definiton of a newbie.


What is this I don't even...

Vivax, you're calling BKE scum and defending him in the same post do you realize this? Why would you go to the effort of defending him while you're literally in the middle of spearheading his lynch?


I still think the arguments against BKE were bad at the time


you're calling BKE scum and defending him in the same post do you realize this


No, I'm calling him scum now and reminded people of the reasons why I defended him earlier.
I'm not defending him now.

Different past tenses ftw.

Still have to hope that it was a slip revealing by BM revealing BKE, and not that he intended to put a false trail, or even to defend a townie while being scum. This seems very unlikely however.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 10:24 GMT
#1004
EBWOP: A slip by BM revealing BKE
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 10:37 GMT
#1006
Casualman, why you voting for VE?

It's pretty obvious since BM's death that he can't be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 16:17 GMT
#1042
@ Acro

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=51#1010

The answer is already in your post.

More specifically in the part where I post 12 hours before deadline.

how do you defend a guy and then vote for him 3 minutes later.


I didn't defend mK in that part like you say.
I mentioned three points that were used against mK at that moment, and said that only one point gave me a reason to vote him at that point. It was the point regarding his post content.
I was sceptic of the kenpachi rule ET and NoSmurfHere were promoting at the time and gave my own reason besides that policy to vote for him.

I'm kind of changing my opinion regarding him after writing this. Mainly because of point 1 .I still think that point 2 and 3 wouldn't be enough for me to vote for him. But 1 is a good argument to vote for him.

Sorry if I don't have as much faith in the kenpachi rule as you do, but I didn't see it successfully in action through multiple games, and I also see the downsides.


A scum me would have simply agreed with the kenpachi rule and voted for him.
Nothing more easy than hiding behind a policy for the vote, not start questioning it.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 16:37 GMT
#1044
On July 04 2012 01:28 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Vivax: If he is scum I'd only lean to about 65% sure. I cant wrap my head around why a scum would go through the trouble of trying to lynch both of these guys as well. He clearly thought the Fox lynch was bad before the lynch, but didn't as much effort into preventing than continuing his VE and Acro campaign. Just the fact that he really softly opposed the Fox lynch would make me suspicious. The marv case was bad outright and his BM and BKE bussing scheme is wrong. If any can convince why a scum makes a move to kill two very experienced players I'll consider changing my vote.


1. Tell me how you differentiate between a soft and a hard defense.I'll proceed to quote myself and show you how I defended FT .

2. Just the fact that I really 'softly' opposed the mislynch of a townie makes me suspicious. Note how you use the term softly to play down the defense.

Marv failed with two reads and had the habit to post 1-2-liners, also he offended me instead of answering questions, so I had good reason to think he was a disrupting scum player.

BKE:
If any can convince why a scum makes a move to kill two very experienced players


Wat.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 16:42 GMT
#1045
On July 04 2012 01:28 BroodKingEXE wrote:
The marv case was bad outright and his BM and BKE bussing scheme is wrong.


Why is the BM bussing scheme wrong? BM asked town to lynch Acrofales if you flipped scum. There's some knowledge in that. And at the time he posted that, the mK case wasn't out yet to save your ass, he had good reasons to believe you'd gonna get killed and tried to save some of his cred he'd have lost for defending you before.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 17:25 GMT
#1048
BKE,since you say you're town, would you mind giving me your opinions on NoSmurfHere, austinmcc and twelve?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 17:45 GMT
#1051
On July 04 2012 02:02 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Firstly Im town. Secondly at the time how many people thought BM was town? Bussing a scum is only effective if you are innocent already, by that time most of the town would have been up for a BM lynch if I didn't go through. The only thing that attempt would have done was get both of us lynched.


BM never had more than 2 votes at the same time on him

Firstly: That's no defense.
Secondly: Most people didn't post anything about BM at that time.

Regarding bussing: No, bussing a scum can successfully deflect attention from you if you've been suspected before.
Usually it should be quite vulnerable to WIFOM, but that post by BM is a bussing attempt with a scumslip as bonus and I don't see how he would have tried to use that post to his advantage as scum if not to bus you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 17:52 GMT
#1052
On July 01 2012 16:13 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont like how adam went from saying "lets kill kurumi" to the next post he had voting mandalor
the BXE wagon is magnificent I dont like the hate towards it and when he dies we can lynch Acrofales


Seriously, it's so goddamn obvious.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#1059
A Katina lynch would be like a FT lynch. It's nothing but a low activity townie without deciding information regarding the guilt.An easy target.

I still get more townvibes from her. She calls out people with a firm opinion.
Only thing one could object is that she preferred a BKE lynch over a BM lynch. Everyone but the two voting for BM preferred some lynch over BM's lynch, so the objection is invalid.

I don't like the Katina bandwagon.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 19:20 GMT
#1066
VE, telling others what to look at isn't scumhunting either.

You might be genuinely convinced that I'm scum, but you forget there's 6 of them.

Maybe don't skip everyone else's post while promoting your own.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 20:24 GMT
#1073
Not sure if he's roleclaiming or just causing more confusion. 2-3 of his posts back then still don't make sense.
I guess town never lynches people trolling or acting overly strange.

If he's roleclaiming then he's basically making himself a target for no reason.
Doesn't make sense that way.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 20:42 GMT
#1077
Btw, BKE. There's no momentum in the case against you and you answered the questions nontheless. That looks townish to me. You provided information while not being in real danger.

Gonna be satisfied for now, but I still think that vote + commentary by BM puts you into a bad spot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 03 2012 21:19 GMT
#1084
I'm in for a twelve lynch.

His bandwagoning on the FT lynch is reason enough. And I don't buy the story where he kills his rl friend, who then turns out to be townie. Jerk.

VE, more facts, less emotions. Clap clap for the speech.

##Vote twelve
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